Toy Fair 2012 Coverage - Official Product Images 2012

damn, that shockwave is nice.

Shockwave looks great, almost everything else is complete crap. And what the hell is all that crap on Bulkhead?

Ahh...Shockwave...
You know a figure is good when the Hasbro photographers can't even mess up the shot.

To be honest, nothing here has got me interested in replacing my versions with these renditions of these characters. Shockwave was about to, but his legs suck way too much to be the mighty Shockwave. Unless theres a way to fix his girly thin legs, I'm saving most of my cash for them 3rd party bots.

A lot of this I'll have to see in person in order to decide what I want to buy.

The only ones I'm buying from all these pics is :-

FoC Shockwave : Say what you want about the legs but damn that's one fine headsculpt,chest and weapon.

Bruticus : I dont think I need to say why I wanna buy this one lol xD. 5 DX figs that can combine is awesomesauce .

Kre-O Devastator : Meh sure it's just 4 constructicon but damn that Devy looks like one hell of a killing machine

Voyager Megs : The paints suck but damn I just love his awesomesauce bot mode.

But yeah only 4 figs(8 if you count the Bruticus seperately)...Pretty dissapointing I must say...

Maximus had such potential. I'm still not entirely against it. The current offering, sure, but we know they can make Headmasters, such as Energon Omega Supreme. If they remolded the body a bit to look more like Fortress/Brave Maximus and made him a Headmaster (make his included Cyberverse Legion be the head, for example), we'd buy it like crazy.

FOC is the only one that's really doing anything for me.

FOC: Bruticus, shockwave, and Optimus, Prime: voyager megatron Optimus and starscream and deluxe vehicon, cliffjumper, and soundwave all sound good to me!

Shockwave at last!

So, a few negatives first off: the legs looks kinda scrawny, and his whole abs-crotch region reminds me of DotM Shockwave, which was unimpressive. Also, I could do without the wings, I'm hoping there's another way to fold them that makes them less noticeable/winglike.

Postives: First, it's about damn time! LOVE the headscuplt. Weapon looks good, and the figure looks pretty articulate. I'm sure I can find a space to cram him into the shelf.

MINDVVIPE wrote:To be honest, nothing here has got me interested in replacing my versions with these renditions of these characters. Shockwave was about to, but his legs suck way too much to be the mighty Shockwave. Unless theres a way to fix his girly thin legs, I'm saving most of my cash for them 3rd party bots.

I love it when people insist third party companies arn't thieves and then I see posts like this.

The future looks bright, and my wallet weeps because of that.

FoC Shockwave, RiD Ratchet, Arcee, and Soundwave are musts. Perhaps more but i'd like to see reviews and such before truly deciding.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:To be honest, nothing here has got me interested in replacing my versions with these renditions of these characters. Shockwave was about to, but his legs suck way too much to be the mighty Shockwave. Unless theres a way to fix his girly thin legs, I'm saving most of my cash for them 3rd party bots.

I love it when people insist third party companies arn't thieves and then I see posts like this.

How are they thieves? if there were multiple sixshots in Hasbros toyline, and they somehow were kept a secret from me due to third party companies, that would make them thieves. What they're doing now; thats just supply and demand. I don't get it. Are you mad at third party companies because you can't afford their figures?

*Shockwave is just comeplete sexiness all around. His wrists are scaring me, hope they don't have Lockdown Syndrome.

*Some of the Prime toys are a little disappointing, Weaponizer Prime, Bumblebee, and a little bit of Hotshot for that matter.

*Jazz is, like Shockwave, is the embodiment of pure awesome-sauce.

*FOC Prime could have been done a little better, probably a pass unless they come up with a FOC Megatron.

*Really worried about the Combaticons, especially Vortex. Those colors do NOT do him justice. Hopefully he'll be appropriately be colored. If that's how he's colored in the game, my bad, I'm going by G1 here.

*Bot Shots are a pass. Really interesting, but my wallet's already dying as it is.

*Cyberverse, like Bot Shots, are a pass.

*Optimus Maximus, pretty cool looking, not one for his base mode, probably a pass for now.

*40+ Generations? Creamed my pants at the thought of it.

So pretty much, 2012 is a good year, even though we're screwed at the end of the year.

MINDVVIPE wrote:How are they thieves? if there were multiple sixshots in Hasbros toyline, and they somehow were kept a secret from me due to third party companies, that would make them thieves. What they're doing now; thats just supply and demand. I don't get it. Are you mad at third party companies because you can't afford their figures?

Don't misunderstand me, I can afford third parties. Although I must say, even if I had the morality to buy them, I wouldn't waste the asking prices on them but that is neither here nor there.

How are they thieves? Well right there you're saying you will not buy Hasbro figures, the ones who can legally make toys of the characters and will instead buy toys from those who don't.

Supply and demand doesn't mean anything when it involves the right to make the toys.

*Waits for someone to do the inevitable "Well if Hasbro made the toys I wanted *cry cry*" argument

Twitchythe3rd wrote:The future looks bright, and my wallet weeps because of that.

FoC Shockwave, RiD Ratchet, Arcee, and Soundwave are musts. Perhaps more but i'd like to see reviews and such before truly deciding.

Say no more, Peaugh of YouTube has Soundwave in his videos of reviewing! Very sexy, I must say. Disappointed by his lack of height, but it's definitely a must-get. He has FE Arcee, not sure abour RID Ratchet and Arcee.

Starscream GaGa wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:How are they thieves? if there were multiple sixshots in Hasbros toyline, and they somehow were kept a secret from me due to third party companies, that would make them thieves. What they're doing now; thats just supply and demand. I don't get it. Are you mad at third party companies because you can't afford their figures?

Don't misunderstand me, I can afford third parties. Although I must say, even if I had the morality to buy them, I wouldn't waste the asking prices on them but that is neither here nor there.

How are they thieves? Well right there you're saying you will not buy Hasbro figures, the ones who can legally make toys of the characters and will instead buy toys from those who don't.

Supply and demand doesn't mean anything when it involves the right to make the toys.

*Waits for someone to do the inevitable "Well if Hasbro made the toys I wanted *cry cry*" argument

... ?
When did I say I won't by Hasbro figures? I just said the figures i've seen here don't make me want to replace the figures I already have, which are obviously a lot of Hasbro figures. I really don't give a crap who makes the figures, as long as they're good quality and are affordable enough for me to buy. The third party figures come with a high price tag because they are basically targeting a niche market (high-spending adult collectors).

You seem to be very offended by the fact that people won't spend on Hasbro, but will spend on third party companies who "legally" don't have the right to make them. That arguement has always been one that I laugh at. 3rd party companies are NOT, and I repeat, NOT a competing business for Hasbro. They make enough money that these third party companies are, if anything, doing Hasbro GOOD by keeping the franchise alive with an older audience who buys both third party AND hasbro products. Supply and demand is everything, btw. If 3rd party companies were actually stealing a nice chunk out of hasbro's profits, I'm sure they would be shut down and made to pay fines. Until then, be a wise consumer and choose to spend your money on things that you feel deserve it. Spending on 3rd party tfs aren't going to kill the Transformers franchise... there are still children all over the world buying Transformers, as well as other Hasbro products, that are within their parents' budgets.

Sorry for the off-topic dialogue, everyone.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:How are they thieves? if there were multiple sixshots in Hasbros toyline, and they somehow were kept a secret from me due to third party companies, that would make them thieves. What they're doing now; thats just supply and demand. I don't get it. Are you mad at third party companies because you can't afford their figures?

Don't misunderstand me, I can afford third parties. Although I must say, even if I had the morality to buy them, I wouldn't waste the asking prices on them but that is neither here nor there.

How are they thieves? Well right there you're saying you will not buy Hasbro figures, the ones who can legally make toys of the characters and will instead buy toys from those who don't.

Supply and demand doesn't mean anything when it involves the right to make the toys.

*Waits for someone to do the inevitable "Well if Hasbro made the toys I wanted *cry cry*" argument

... ?
When did I say I won't by Hasbro figures? I just said the figures i've seen here don't make me want to replace the figures I already have, which are obviously a lot of Hasbro figures. I really don't give a crap who makes the figures, as long as they're good quality and are affordable enough for me to buy. The third party figures come with a high price tag because they are basically targeting a niche market (high-spending adult collectors).

You seem to be very offended by the fact that people won't spend on Hasbro, but will spend on third party companies who "legally" don't have the right to make them. That arguement has always been one that I laugh at. 3rd party companies are NOT, and I repeat, NOT a competing business for Hasbro. They make enough money that these third party companies are, if anything, doing Hasbro GOOD by keeping the franchise alive with an older audience who buys both third party AND hasbro products. Supply and demand is everything, btw. If 3rd party companies were actually stealing a nice chunk out of hasbro's profits, I'm sure they would be shut down and made to pay fines. Until then, be a wise consumer and choose to spend your money on things that you feel deserve it. Spending on 3rd party tfs aren't going to kill the Transformers franchise... there are still children all over the world buying Transformers, as well as other Hasbro products, that are within their parents' budgets.

Sorry for the off-topic dialogue, everyone.

-attempts to make a roar of applause, but realizes no one will probably join in and stops clapping-

I have no idea what the blazes Shockwave turns into. Nor do I care. I can't tell; all I know is I WANT.

Ow my gods! Shockwave looks fantastic! He's super screen accurate.
This line is going to be teh awesomnesss!

Seriously, I'm very, very happy with FOC. This is totally awesome

Evil_the_Nub wrote: And what the hell is all that crap on Bulkhead?

I was wondering the same thing. He looks like he packed up all of his belongings to move across the country.

THIS IS SOOOO MUUUUUCH ..... fail.
i can't even decently like half of any of the figs.the prime figs reak of fail. i would rather see first editions FOREVER than see this.
the only ones i like are FOC shockwave(LLLOOOOOOOOOVE) FOC jazz(vehicular mode is very good but the robot mode, meh), and FOC OPrime(AWESOME)

Wow that Optimus Maximus is pure awful. Limbs are full of holes and base mode is just him sitting down. It's a brand new G1 brick.

Judge Deliberata wrote:I have no idea what the blazes Shockwave turns into. Nor do I care. I can't tell; all I know is I WANT.

A jet. Not a player of War for Cybertrom I'd imagine?

Mykltron wrote:Wow that Optimus Maximus is pure awful. Limbs are full of holes and base mode is just him sitting down. It's a brand new G1 brick.

Slap a Grandus behind him and top it off with a Sky Garry and I'd buy it.

Mindmaster wrote:

Twitchythe3rd wrote:The future looks bright, and my wallet weeps because of that.

FoC Shockwave, RiD Ratchet, Arcee, and Soundwave are musts. Perhaps more but i'd like to see reviews and such before truly deciding.

Say no more, Peaugh of YouTube has Soundwave in his videos of reviewing! Very sexy, I must say. Disappointed by his lack of height, but it's definitely a must-get. He has FE Arcee, not sure abour RID Ratchet and Arcee.

Way ahead of you there. I'm subscribed to his channel. Waiting for his review of the RiD Vehicon.

Speaking of, I need a Vehicon or 3.

Mindmaster wrote:

Judge Deliberata wrote:I have no idea what the blazes Shockwave turns into. Nor do I care. I can't tell; all I know is I WANT.

A jet. Not a player of War for Cybertrom I'd imagine?

To be exact a literal gunship.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Judge Deliberata wrote:I have no idea what the blazes Shockwave turns into. Nor do I care. I can't tell; all I know is I WANT.

A jet. Not a player of War for Cybertrom I'd imagine?

To be exact a literal gunship.

Right you are, bro!

Shockwave looks great!

Most excited for Prime-Weaponizers-Bee... probably b/c I missed out on First Edition Prime Bee. Shockwave looks good... not great. Do I really need another Jazz: no.

TFNutshell wrote:Most excited for Prime-Weaponizers-Bee... probably b/c I missed out on First Edition Prime Bee. Shockwave looks good... not great. Do I really need another Jazz: no.

You do realize Weaponizers are Leader Class, right? Here are the new names:

Deluxe Class: Revealers
Voyager Class: Powerizers
Leader Class: Weaponizers

Starscream GaGa wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:How are they thieves? if there were multiple sixshots in Hasbros toyline, and they somehow were kept a secret from me due to third party companies, that would make them thieves. What they're doing now; thats just supply and demand. I don't get it. Are you mad at third party companies because you can't afford their figures?

Don't misunderstand me, I can afford third parties. Although I must say, even if I had the morality to buy them, I wouldn't waste the asking prices on them but that is neither here nor there.

How are they thieves? Well right there you're saying you will not buy Hasbro figures, the ones who can legally make toys of the characters and will instead buy toys from those who don't.

Supply and demand doesn't mean anything when it involves the right to make the toys.

*Waits for someone to do the inevitable "Well if Hasbro made the toys I wanted *cry cry*" argument

Dude, you're an idiot.

On topic.

Most of it looks okay. I can't say I like that Bruticus. Maybe if I see it outside of official pictures I might change my mind, or if TT pumps out a better color in United.

Shockwave, Jazz, & Prime are nothing AMAZING but are pretty game accurate so I think I'll pick em up. Those ones I'm sure I'll like more in time.

Love most of the legion & commander Cyberverse stuff. Can't wait to see if Ironhide is in the show or not, and it looks like Dreadwing is just a Skyquake repaint.

Prime Deluxe figures look okay, Knock-out is kinda disappointing. I mean I'll buy him because I've decided to collect main line Prime but I'm not really diggin any off the Voyagers besides Megaron. Maybe Starscream, but I'll need to see more pics.

40+ Generations should be a riot. Can't wait to see Defensor! (he'll be in the line, same with Stunticons & Airealbots) Maybe we'll finally get Trailbreaker & Skids - hopefully they look nothing like Milne's boring characters.

Nice of Hasbro to release the photoshopped versions after toy fair photos of the actual figures are all over the net. It's too late to hide that grey plastic now Hasbro...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Here are the new names:

Deluxe Class: Revealers
Voyager Class: Powerizers
Leader Class: Weaponizers

Oh for Christ's sake. They just HAVE to muddy the waters, don't they!

Down_Shift wrote:
Dude, you're an idiot.

On topic...

LOL.

explain to me again why we the fans of transformers even have websites about a toylines that aren't even cared for by their own makers? seriously!
yes this is just a theoritical question but still.

Nice. Love Shockwave but what's up with his tiny legs and feet? What are the chances that they'll release the Combaticons in their G1 colors?

Stormrider wrote:Nice. Love Shockwave but what's up with his tiny legs and feet?

better than nothing and half the other crap hasbro is trying to make us buy.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

TFNutshell wrote:Most excited for Prime-Weaponizers-Bee... probably b/c I missed out on First Edition Prime Bee. Shockwave looks good... not great. Do I really need another Jazz: no.

You do realize Weaponizers are Leader Class, right? Here are the new names:

Deluxe Class: Revealers
Voyager Class: Powerizers
Leader Class: Weaponizers

I DID NOT realize that weaponizers are the new Leader Class... all the more reason to be excited.

Oh ya, I forgot to mention how I feel about the Vehicon. Looks sweet, and they fixed the front wheels-off-balance issue... knew it from the robot mode. Definitely getting him. And I tottaly missed the info about the 40+ Generations... see, this is where I will find it hard to save for 3rd party figures, hehe.

Mindmaster wrote:

Judge Deliberata wrote:I have no idea what the blazes Shockwave turns into. Nor do I care. I can't tell; all I know is I WANT.

A jet. Not a player of War for Cybertrom I'd imagine?

I am (and have most of the offline trophies), but his form looks to be somewhat modified from his original, which was far more jet-like. Here it seems like the wings have been reduced in span, and more's been added to the front. For the best, I'd say; the original form reminded me too much of Cyclonus.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Oh ya, I forgot to mention how I feel about the Vehicon. Looks sweet, and they fixed the front wheels-off-balance issue... knew it from the robot mode. Definitely getting him. And I tottaly missed the info about the 40+ Generations... see, this is where I will find it hard to save for 3rd party figures, hehe.

If you buy 3rd party stuff, the terrorist win.

Man, Bulkhead looks awesome and show accurate from the feet up to his waist, then it all comes crumbling down.
Seriously, those legs on him look awesome, they even incorporate the wheels just like the show model, but damn the rest of him looks awful.

RhA wrote:If you buy 3rd party stuff, the terrorist win.

I am the terrorist.

PRAISE PRIMUS!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Here are the new names:

Deluxe Class: Revealers
Voyager Class: Powerizers
Leader Class: Weaponizers

Turns out this isn't entirely true. The official names are still "Deluxe Class" and "Voyager Class", while "Revealers" and "Powerizers" were internal names Hasbro was using to refer to each class's gimmick. The names weren't meant to be applied to the size classes themselves, but the names got mentioned on some documents and one thing led to another and so now we got people incorrectly calling the size classes by those internal names. They are still "Deluxe" and "Voyager" as you'll notice that nowhere on the toys' packaging are the terms "Revealer" or "Powerizer" to be found.


HOWEVER, "Weaponizer" is indeed a new price point, being Leader class-sized, but still its own thing. I wouldn't count them as actual Leader Class figures, but more like a new size class of similar scale to the Leader class (like Battle Ops Bumblebee was). Not to mention how they're priced at $29.99, which is lower than the Leader price.

Oh thank Primus. Bruticus' official pics are NOT the candy colored ones.

I'm liking the WFC line, especially Shockwave. He was MADE for this line since his alt was always cybertronian (FYI my TF upbringing was on the G1 cartoon) so this pretty much is his Classics-verse toy.

Since I see no wheels, I'm assuming he's a "gunship" and that is awesome (Nausicaa has taught me so)! Not only is it a natural solution to roleplay gun modes both among toy vehicles, but it ties in with the dude's fiction. Awesome bit with Bruticus aside, I recall there was also a scene he used it against the female autobots. He didn't size change, and could inexplicably float and fire on his own. Even back then I thought it painfully hamfisted, but a gunship covers all those bases.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Here are the new names:

Deluxe Class: Revealers
Voyager Class: Powerizers
Leader Class: Weaponizers

Turns out this isn't entirely true. The official names are still "Deluxe Class" and "Voyager Class", while "Revealers" and "Powerizers" were internal names Hasbro was using to refer to each class's gimmick. The names weren't meant to be applied to the size classes themselves, but the names got mentioned on some documents and one thing led to another and so now we got people incorrectly calling the size classes by those internal names. They are still "Deluxe" and "Voyager" as you'll notice that nowhere on the toys' packaging are the terms "Revealer" or "Powerizer" to be found.


HOWEVER, "Weaponizer" is indeed a new price point, being Leader class-sized, but their still own thing. I wouldn't count them as actual Leader Class figures, but more like a new size class of similar scale to the Leader class. Not to mention how they're priced at $29.99, which is lower than the Leader price.

Picky, picky... And wasn't $25-$30 the original Ultra Price Point?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Picky, picky...

I'm just pointing out that Toy Fair finally gave us some clarification on this, in that Deluxe and Voyager are not being renamed after all.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And wasn't $25-$30 the original Ultra Price Point?

It's varied over the years.

Though, Human Alliance (non-Basic) was the most recent $30 price point.