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Thursday, July 3rd, 2014 4:38PM CDT

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According to Variety Magazine , Transformers: Age of Extinction is making more money in China than it is in the US. Numbers released Tuesday by the China Movie Media Group, a partner in the production of AoE, report that the film made $134.5 million in China, versus the $121 million made in the United States after five days in theatres. The film has also broken the record set by, “The Monkey King,” a production of China-Hong Kong, which grossed $133 million across 11 days—and it has done so in half the time.

It’s likely at this point that the fourth installment of the live action movies will surpass “Avatar’s” record of $217.7 million in China. It is pretty rare for a Hollywood film to surpass its stateside gross in a foreign country, however, Paramount Pictures work hard to incorporate Chinese aspects into the film. Also, China Movie Media Group, the largest promoter and distributor of films in China, collaborated with an American studio for the first time, providing advertising, online ticketing, and other support. For comparison sake, Dark of the Moon grossed roughly $165 million in China.
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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1587732)
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2014 @ 4:49pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Burn wrote:Oh a review of a Transformers movie and the reviewer takes a pot shot at Michael Bay?

Now that's a first!

Seriously ... I don't think any other director cops so much flack from reviewers like Bay does. Credit to the man for not listening to them.

What about Uwe Boll? Of course Bay could do take a leaf out of his book and challenge his critics to a boxing match.

The boxing match was a farce anyway.

Plus I wouldn't call Uwe Boll a director.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 3rd, 2014 @ 4:52pm CDT
ScoutBumblebee wrote:According to Variety Magazine , Transformers: Age of Extinction is making more money in China than it is in the US. Numbers released Tuesday by the China Movie Media Group, a partner in the production of AoE, report that the film made $134.5 million in China, versus the $121 million made in the United States after five days in theatres. The film has also broken the record set by, “The Monkey King," a production of China-Hong Kong, which grossed $133 million across 11 days—and it has done so in half the time.


Nice. Not totally surprising, due to the population of China (yes, I know a lot of them live in rural areas and don't get to see the movie, but still) but it's good to see Age of Extinction kicking box office ass. Hopefully when it's all said and done, it will be in the "Billionaires' Club" along with Dark of The Moon. Suck it, movie critics. Suck it hard. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2014 @ 7:06pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Suck it, movie critics. Suck it hard. :lol: :lol: :lol:


ah them guys won't give a toss. They'll keep being overly intellectual and dragging movies down while the rest of us go to a movie to be entertained.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 3rd, 2014 @ 8:13pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Suck it, movie critics. Suck it hard. :lol: :lol: :lol:


ah them guys won't give a toss. They'll keep being overly intellectual and dragging movies down while the rest of us go to a movie to be entertained.


Meh, their loss. I'll have 3 hours of fun while Michael Bay's pile of cash gets higher. Everyone who matters wins. :)
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Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on July 3rd, 2014 @ 10:44pm CDT
Okay, here's my review of Transformers: Age of Extinction. Warning: Spoilers! If you haven't seen this movie, scroll down really fast.



The movie started nicely, but I felt that the human characters didn't show any real personality. Everything happened so fast in the beginning for a 165 minute movie. T.J. Miller's character, Lucas, died during that explosion. I admit it was kind of nice for the character with the corny puns and jokes to die, but there was more tiring unnecessary "humor" that nobody cares about. It was hard to register the scenes in the middle of the movie for there was a lot going on. As for the end, Optimus should have shot into space with the Seed a long time ago when he and the Autobots were going to retrieve it.

The special effects were terrible and ILM knows that they did not do well with the CG. The sounds were good and that was the only good thing in this movie. That shot with Drift turning his head looked so FAKE a Syfy movie's CG looks better than that. The Autobots didn't transform as much which is a real disappointment for a fan. I felt that the Dinobots were just there for no reason whatsoever. Not only did they have less screen time than I expected, the Dinobots didn't do as much in 4 minutes of their screen time. Slash wasn't in this movie which is disappointing as much as it's disappointing that Hound doesn't ride a Dinobot. The score however, wasn't so nice. In an interview, Steve Jablonsky said that the score would be basic but fit in the action sequences of the movie. The score wasn't as nice. Michael Bay, Mark Wahlberg, and everyone else claims that this was going to be the best movie of the franchise, and I'm going to give this movie a rating of 2.5/10. Be with me on this, but this movie is worse than Revenge of the Fallen. A highly potential film has been thrown away in the trash and it didn't deserve it. Hopefully, the next movie will be better, but I don't expect it to be.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2014 @ 11:46pm CDT
Saw the film for the second time. Will be giving my thoughts about it here in the near future.


Burn wrote:So we should compare Rescue Bots to G1 too then?
Sadly, Burn, it does happen. There have been folks who claim Doc stole Wheeljack's role/personality, and wish that Morocco had been Arkeville. :roll:

ZeroWolf wrote:So looks like the Nostalgia Critic doesn't like the movie..
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43885-nostalgia-critic-talks-transformers-4

He even brings up Michael Bays teleprompter incident(which I still think people were being too hard on him about. He's only human like the rest of us)
Meanwhile, here's what Doug (as himself) really thought about the movie - http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43894-doug-reviews-transformers-4

And the Nostalgia Chick (along with the Black Nerd), who is much more positive with the movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrriH5YbLF8
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 4th, 2014 @ 4:05am CDT
****** might have spoilers, might not. Depends on if you think character descriptions count as spoilers. Either way, thpoilerth***************************






Welp, I just saw the movie yesterday. By far the best Transformers movie already. There were a lot (A LOT) of problems, but I like the new cast better than the old cast (with the exception of Ironhide, who was really the only memorable one there). Movie Drift is a hell of a lot better than comic book Drift. Seriously, Drift in this movie seems like a kid who found some samurai armor and started swinging around katana swords rather than an actual samurai, and I thought that was perfect for an alien robot trying to be a Samurai. Crosshairs was a whisker shy of being Rattrap. I can easily see him surviving the Autopocalypse on Earth because he'd just shoot the humans who came after him. He was less a solder, and more a guy who learned everything he did by playing call of duty. Hound was perfectly done, though they were clearly going for a more Bulkhead idea with him instead of Hound, still, doesn't mater, he was awesome. He was just missing an Autobot version of The Dude. Bumblebee had less of a roll in this, and that is very good, I like this. I can accept the radio talk easier when there's less of it. And the guy tying them all together is Murdermus Prime! You know, as a kid, I don't remember Optimus being a wise leader in the cartoons. He either shot things or punched things. And when shooting or punching didn't work, he had other people to do the thinking for him. If he couldn't shoot or punch hard enough, he had people to shoot and punch harder than him! So really, movie Optimus isn't so unlike cartoon Optimus. He's just more brutal about it.

You know what? This Autobot cast has a lot more in common with the Beast Wars Maximals than they do the G1 Autobots. I like that.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1587819)
Posted by Autobot032 on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:47am CDT
As we reported here, thanks to the audiences in China, the box office for Age Of Extinction has been huge, and with the World Cup coming to an end, the film will finally see worldwide release and it's final tally could take it into the same level as Dark Of The Moon and the billionaires club. The next few weeks/month or so will tell us what the box office future holds, but we can remain cautiously optimistic.

According to ComicBookMovie.com, Age Of Extinction has accumulated $412,685,351, worldwide so far!

However, US numbers are still somewhat low and attendance would go a long way to getting the film to at least the same level as Transformers and Revenge Of The Fallen. If the current US pattern holds, Age Of Extinction will be the smallest domestic take of the entire film series. (Currently stands at $128,685,351)

If you haven't seen it yet, or you're on the fence, go check it out with friends, or with your kids, and above all: Have a good time!

We'll keep you updated with the numbers and hopefully we'll get to see a stellar box office take, together.

Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
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Posted by Bleak5170 on July 4th, 2014 @ 6:21am CDT
This is the first TF movie I haven't gone to see in the theater, (first flick I saw multiple times). I'll wait for the BR, (I expect those sales to be MASSIVE).
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Posted by Ravage XK on July 4th, 2014 @ 6:47am CDT
Not going to see this a the cinema. I may purchase the Blu ray but most likely I will wait until its on Netflix or on TV.
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Posted by bluecatcinema on July 4th, 2014 @ 7:28am CDT
Impressive. In time, it might even knock X-Men: Days Of Future Past off the "biggest earner of 2014" pedestal (DOFP has currently raked in over $700,000,000).
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Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:04am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:So looks like the Nostalgia Critic doesn't like the movie..
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43885-nostalgia-critic-talks-transformers-4

He even brings up Michael Bays teleprompter incident(which I still think people were being too hard on him about. He's only human like the rest of us)
Meanwhile, here's what Doug (as himself) really thought about the movie - http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43894-doug-reviews-transformers-4

And the Nostalgia Chick (along with the Black Nerd), who is much more positive with the movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrriH5YbLF8


I haven't had chance yet to check out Dougs real opinion of the movie and I didn't know that the Nostalgia Chick had done a review. I'll have to check it out. Though the initial review caused a argument with a friend of mine who took th e review as the gospel truth. He is convinced that this movie will ruin all movies >:oP
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Posted by dragons on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:44am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:So looks like the Nostalgia Critic doesn't like the movie..
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43885-nostalgia-critic-talks-transformers-4

He even brings up Michael Bays teleprompter incident(which I still think people were being too hard on him about. He's only human like the rest of us)
Meanwhile, here's what Doug (as himself) really thought about the movie - http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/43894-doug-reviews-transformers-4

And the Nostalgia Chick (along with the Black Nerd), who is much more positive with the movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrriH5YbLF8


I haven't had chance yet to check out Dougs real opinion of the movie and I didn't know that the Nostalgia Chick had done a review. I'll have to check it out. Though the initial review caused a argument with a friend of mine who took th e review as the gospel truth. He is convinced that this movie will ruin all movies >:oP


Tell your freind go see meet the Spartans parodys are bad for movies
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1587837)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:55am CDT
How these movies even make this kind of money I'll never know.


... not that I'm really complaining. *happily plays with toys that probably wouldn't exist without Bay's films*
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Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 4th, 2014 @ 9:09am CDT
All yall hould see the film. It's really cool. I mean, it's no Inception, but it doesn't have Hayden Christiansen in it, so that's a plus.
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Posted by Rated X on July 4th, 2014 @ 9:21am CDT
Im still holding out. I dont go to movie theaters full of noisy kids...ugh.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 9:44am CDT
Rated X wrote:Im still holding out. I dont go to movie theaters full of noisy kids...ugh.
Now might be a good time to go see it. When I saw it for the second time yesterday, there were only seven people in the theater room, counting myself. All adults.
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Posted by leokearon on July 4th, 2014 @ 12:18pm CDT
Not watching this movie, after getting burned with DOTM, I don't want to give Michael bay anymore of my money so he can continue to ruin TFs with his explosions, lack of characterisation and unoriginal plots.
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Posted by mooseastig on July 4th, 2014 @ 12:20pm CDT
Saw the movie on Imax 3d and it was Pure Awesomeness..! :APPLAUSE:
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 12:20pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Not watching this movie, after getting burned with DOTM, I don't want to give Michael bay anymore of my money so he can continue to ruin TFs with his explosions, lack of characterisation and unoriginal plots.
I can assure you that this movie at least remedied the one in bold.
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Posted by Bumblevivisector on July 4th, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
leokearon wrote:Not watching this movie, after getting burned with DOTM, I don't want to give Michael bay anymore of my money so he can continue to ruin TFs with his explosions, lack of characterisation and unoriginal plots.
I can assure you that this movie at least remedied the one in bold.
Agreed. That's why I honestly think this one's better than any of the first trilogy. We actually understand who the three new Autobots are within 5 minutes of their first appearance.

Now granted, Bay's unwillingness to give Decepticons any characterization in favor of making them generic, shrieking monsters was always my biggest problem with these films, but AofE interestingly dodges that issue by technically not having any actual Decepticons in this one, and sidestepping a problem still counts as a temporary fix.

Add in non-military humans playing a credible role in the plot, and this ends up being the first Bay movie I'll actually see in the theater multiple times...granted, I racked up a LOT of those TRU passes last week because I'd held off on buying any toys until there was a sale, so I won't really be adding to the U.S. box office, but it is genuinely worth seeing on a big screen in 3-D.
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Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 4th, 2014 @ 1:29pm CDT
it has no competition so its going to make money fast, now if a marvel movie was out at the same time i guarantee the profits would be a lot lower. I personally will not be buying a ticket, watched a bootleg & its not worth seeing on the big screen. Its unnecessarily long & there are to may plot lines going on & not a single one ever gets fleshed out. The bluray i might get though its not a bad action movie & its the best out of the 4, plus being able to pause & fast forward is a godsend.
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Posted by VirusCarnage on July 4th, 2014 @ 3:54pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Im still holding out. I dont go to movie theaters full of noisy kids...ugh.


The first time I went I was with my family (no noisy kids) and we went on the opening Sunday, the theater was almost empty, because it was the first showing I guess.
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 4th, 2014 @ 4:21pm CDT
viruscarnage wrote:
Rated X wrote:Im still holding out. I dont go to movie theaters full of noisy kids...ugh.


The first time I went I was with my family (no noisy kids) and we went on the opening Sunday, the theater was almost empty, because it was the first showing I guess.



That's why I make it a point to wait for a week after the movie's release, then go to a matinee instead of waiting until later in the day. Very few people in the seats, no noise during the movie, and I can sit anywhere I want.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1587933)
Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2014 @ 4:23pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:01pm CDT
Burn wrote:Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


The Seed by itself wouldn't, but what Galvatron wanted to do with it would have. Brains and Optimus said so in the exposition scene at the train yard. Megatron was gonna set off the Seed in a very large city, killing a few hundred thousand people and thus giving him an obscene amount of raw Transformium to create an army of minions which he then would command to wipe out the rest of humanity. To quote Brains, "You greedy bastards brought your own extinction on yourselves."
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Posted by Ultramagnus727 on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:06pm CDT
I loved it although it didn't have much of the other dino bots, still loved it!☺️9/10
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Posted by Sub-Prime on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:37pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


It's funny how I see a lot of folks have questions about the plot yet I walked out knowing everything. I guess some folks can't take in the plot of this movie? The seed would cause extinction as Galvatron was planning on using it so he can create a massive army that would pretty much wipe out civilization. And China is a pretty big place to start.
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Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:52pm CDT
Sub-Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


It's funny how I see a lot of folks have questions about the plot yet I walked out knowing everything. I guess some folks can't take in the plot of this movie? The seed would cause extinction as Galvatron was planning on using it so he can create a massive army that would pretty much wipe out civilization. And China is a pretty big place to start.


I got the plot of the movie, but I think as a sub-title "Age of Extinction" just doesn't work. To me it was more about Prime and the Autobots against Lockdown and the humans. The seed was just a thing on the side, much like Galvatron.

Frankly, despite their short on screen time, it would have made more sense to call it "Rise of the Dinobots".
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 4th, 2014 @ 5:58pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Sub-Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


It's funny how I see a lot of folks have questions about the plot yet I walked out knowing everything. I guess some folks can't take in the plot of this movie? The seed would cause extinction as Galvatron was planning on using it so he can create a massive army that would pretty much wipe out civilization. And China is a pretty big place to start.


I got the plot of the movie, but I think as a sub-title "Age of Extinction" just doesn't work. To me it was more about Prime and the Autobots against Lockdown and the humans. The seed was just a thing on the side, much like Galvatron.

Frankly, despite their short on screen time, it would have made more sense to call it "Rise of the Dinobots".



If we're going to get Transformers Prime on it, then it should be "Knights of Cybertron" Because they had as much to do with it as Predacons did in TF:P
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Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2014 @ 6:03pm CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
Burn wrote:
Sub-Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


It's funny how I see a lot of folks have questions about the plot yet I walked out knowing everything. I guess some folks can't take in the plot of this movie? The seed would cause extinction as Galvatron was planning on using it so he can create a massive army that would pretty much wipe out civilization. And China is a pretty big place to start.


I got the plot of the movie, but I think as a sub-title "Age of Extinction" just doesn't work. To me it was more about Prime and the Autobots against Lockdown and the humans. The seed was just a thing on the side, much like Galvatron.

Frankly, despite their short on screen time, it would have made more sense to call it "Rise of the Dinobots".



If we're going to get Transformers Prime on it, then it should be "Knights of Cybertron" Because they had as much to do with it as Predacons did in TF:P


Thought of that, but figured that might be more suitable for one of the next two movies.
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Posted by ButtZilla on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:17pm CDT
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 4th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT
I love it when the nostalgia critic is being ironic.
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 10:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
Burn wrote:
Sub-Prime wrote:
Burn wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:it has no competition so its going to make money fast,


Dawn of the Planet of the Apes opens next week, that will bit into it.
(I expect it to be a much better movie than AoE)

Oh and I thought of something ... what is up with the name anyway? "Age of Extinction" ... it's only mentioned once, were we suppose to believe that the seed would wipe out the whole planet because I never really got that impression.


It's funny how I see a lot of folks have questions about the plot yet I walked out knowing everything. I guess some folks can't take in the plot of this movie? The seed would cause extinction as Galvatron was planning on using it so he can create a massive army that would pretty much wipe out civilization. And China is a pretty big place to start.


I got the plot of the movie, but I think as a sub-title "Age of Extinction" just doesn't work. To me it was more about Prime and the Autobots against Lockdown and the humans. The seed was just a thing on the side, much like Galvatron.

Frankly, despite their short on screen time, it would have made more sense to call it "Rise of the Dinobots".



If we're going to get Transformers Prime on it, then it should be "Knights of Cybertron" Because they had as much to do with it as Predacons did in TF:P


Thought of that, but figured that might be more suitable for one of the next two movies.
Watching several of the trailers, there were quite a few things depicted in those trailers that weren't in the final cut of the movie, such as Optimus' line of "This is not war... it's human extinction." I'm thinking there were some rewrites going on that changed a number of things that might have let the title make more sense in an earlier production stage.

And there was the bit with Lockdown talking about how the Creators were very displeased by the interactions between multiple species, namely the Transformers and the humans having come in contact with each other. I get the feeling that an earlier draft might have involved the Creators not only wanting Lockdown to bring them Optimus, but also to wanting wipe out the humans just because they and the Transformers have been in the same room as each other all this time. Species discrimination and all that.
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:03pm CDT
Here we go, THIS is a better review from the guy.

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Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:15pm CDT
And both of those reviews (from the Critic and from Doug as himself) were already posted before.
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Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And both of those reviews (from the Critic and from Doug as himself) were already posted before.

Lots of people have posted stuff in this thread that has been posted before. People are excited about the movie and rush to discuss it without reading what's already been posted. No biggie, the world keeps turning.
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Posted by crossblades on July 5th, 2014 @ 5:57am CDT
Ok, i went to see this last night, midnight preview in the UK, first time ever been to a midnight preview, and for transformers no less... I love transformers, have done since i was about 5, and im almost 32 now...

Spoilers









This film is appalling, people say there is no characterisation in DOTM, there is nothing in this one, prime puts a call out to his homies, and we get 3 disfunctional bots and an introverted bumblebee.

Drift, ok your a triple changer, why are you japanese? who/what are you?
Hound, welcome back ironhide, sorry we killed you last time, whats your plot?
Crosshairs, should have just been roadbuster, since you arent whats your point?

we have character quirks, but no actual reason for these guys, no back story, nothing about where they have hidden or why, why should i care about them?

Bee, the star of the first 3 films, becomes an introvert, whilst this isnt bad, it feels like a waste of 1 of the few characters we already know, and still appears he cant talk, must take ages to repair TF's...

Apart from prime, who apparently needs transformers to help him repair..., or gaffer tape... but seems to self repair in about 5 minutes every time he gets injured.

Lockdown seems like a good villan, however after he kills one of the characters we know from previous films at the start of this one, it appears he is taking their spark for his own use, this is then stated later that the spark is where all thoughts and memories are kept, basically a Tf's soul... Apart from megatron... megatron has a brain instead... however that doesnt help him either as he goes back to being a side plot point again, rather than the big bad... in fact pretty much not needed in the film, could just be cia vehicons...

And the dinobots... what? where? who? never named, so only the toys have names, the other bots seem to know who/what they are but again never comment, they seem to be something from the past? but even after the start of the films plot point about earth being bombed by "someone" are the dinobots part of earths past, TF's past? meh... still dont care by this point...

and thats it, i was so excited to see this film... and its just bad.

overall it could have done with 20 minutes less explosions, and 10 minutes more plot exposition, just naming names, telling you why things might be happening, or what is going on a little bit, and giving you something to care about.

It feels like there were about 5 different plot points, but everyone forgot to finish 4 of them... or even start them properly... its not hints for the next films, its bad writing or bad editing meanign the film feels hollow and shallow, and you dont care.

It also appears they forgot some things of the editing room floor, since there are alot of goofs and places with bad audio sync.

and the end, well there is an episode of the simpsons this feels very close to... but will let you find that one yourselves

The one thing i will give it is the CIA killing cons and bots basically for profit is a nice dark twist... however its just dark, and sets up the vehicons... it isnt great because its lost within the films bad editing and aweful characterisation.

sorry if i ruin this for anyone, but i had to vent as it upset me alot watching this film, its just bad.

Overall go for the cgi, get lost in that, dont go for a story, dont go for charactisation... see it in IMAX... basically its a good advert for IMAX...

3/10
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588044)
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2014 @ 6:41am CDT
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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588045)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2014 @ 6:56am CDT
There are no Vehicons in this movie, guys. Anyone who tells you otherwise is mistaken.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588050)
Posted by crossblades on July 5th, 2014 @ 7:14am CDT
Aye sorry, I used vehicon for shorthand, I could have put mass produced shiny lumps of junk with no chatacter, that are there to advertise cars for certain companies, but basically end up as target practice and Dino treats throughout the film... Vehicon is a quicker way of saying this.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588051)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2014 @ 7:17am CDT
crossblades wrote:Aye sorry, I used vehicon for shorthand, I could have put mass produced shiny lumps of junk with no chatacter, that are there to advertise cars for certain companies, but basically end up as target practice and Dino treats throughout the film... Vehicon is a quicker way of saying this.
Why not just "Decepticons"? Or if that's too specific, "Prototypes" or "KSI robots"?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588052)
Posted by RhA on July 5th, 2014 @ 7:50am CDT
crossblades wrote:Ok, i went to see this last night, midnight preview in the UK, first time ever been to a midnight preview, and for transformers no less... I love transformers, have done since i was about 5, and im almost 32 now...

Spoilers









This film is appalling, people say there is no characterisation in DOTM, there is nothing in this one, prime puts a call out to his homies, and we get 3 disfunctional bots and an introverted bumblebee.

Drift, ok your a triple changer, why are you japanese? who/what are you?
Hound, welcome back ironhide, sorry we killed you last time, whats your plot?
Crosshairs, should have just been roadbuster, since you arent whats your point?

we have character quirks, but no actual reason for these guys, no back story, nothing about where they have hidden or why, why should i care about them?

Bee, the star of the first 3 films, becomes an introvert, whilst this isnt bad, it feels like a waste of 1 of the few characters we already know, and still appears he cant talk, must take ages to repair TF's...

Apart from prime, who apparently needs transformers to help him repair..., or gaffer tape... but seems to self repair in about 5 minutes every time he gets injured.

Lockdown seems like a good villan, however after he kills one of the characters we know from previous films at the start of this one, it appears he is taking their spark for his own use, this is then stated later that the spark is where all thoughts and memories are kept, basically a Tf's soul... Apart from megatron... megatron has a brain instead... however that doesnt help him either as he goes back to being a side plot point again, rather than the big bad... in fact pretty much not needed in the film, could just be cia vehicons...

And the dinobots... what? where? who? never named, so only the toys have names, the other bots seem to know who/what they are but again never comment, they seem to be something from the past? but even after the start of the films plot point about earth being bombed by "someone" are the dinobots part of earths past, TF's past? meh... still dont care by this point...

and thats it, i was so excited to see this film... and its just bad.

overall it could have done with 20 minutes less explosions, and 10 minutes more plot exposition, just naming names, telling you why things might be happening, or what is going on a little bit, and giving you something to care about.

It feels like there were about 5 different plot points, but everyone forgot to finish 4 of them... or even start them properly... its not hints for the next films, its bad writing or bad editing meanign the film feels hollow and shallow, and you dont care.

It also appears they forgot some things of the editing room floor, since there are alot of goofs and places with bad audio sync.

and the end, well there is an episode of the simpsons this feels very close to... but will let you find that one yourselves

The one thing i will give it is the CIA killing cons and bots basically for profit is a nice dark twist... however its just dark, and sets up the vehicons... it isnt great because its lost within the films bad editing and aweful characterisation.

sorry if i ruin this for anyone, but i had to vent as it upset me alot watching this film, its just bad.

Overall go for the cgi, get lost in that, dont go for a story, dont go for charactisation... see it in IMAX... basically its a good advert for IMAX...

3/10

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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588053)
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 5th, 2014 @ 7:56am CDT
Burn wrote:Cue SlyTF1 with yet another defensive pissed off reply... Image


As pissed off as I am, after almost a decade of this, I'm tired.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588096)
Posted by alternator77 on July 5th, 2014 @ 1:21pm CDT
Well it wasnt a shocker for me as i expected a bait and switch but oh well.
The dinobots for the roughly 25 minutes of screen time spent half of it being sucked up by lockdowns ship.
I really think all the emphasis on the new autobot cars took away from their role in the film but again im not suprised.
I remember a usa today piece during dotm where they spoke of shockwave as the new big bad and the level of destruction he would bring and lets be honest one building and an abandoned nuclear facility wasnt exactly earth shattering but it was understandable. Bay did the same thing this time around with the dinobots. The commercials, trailers, and even that video of the voice actor doing grimlock were meant to get people to see it.

Not ranting but i think im done with the movie line and if theyre at my public library ill see them if not oh well.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588131)
Posted by Quint on July 5th, 2014 @ 3:55pm CDT
Gonna see this tomorrow. Just wanted to ask - is Prime a bloodythirsty, merciless b***ard in this one too?

On a side note, why is he such a bloodthirsty, merciless b***ard in the movies?

Seriously, in all three films so far, when he's not getting his ass kicked, he uses gruesome, dismembering finishing moves that should even make Mortal Kombat players wretch. :SICK:
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588136)
Posted by alternator77 on July 5th, 2014 @ 4:18pm CDT
Quint wrote:Gonna see this tomorrow. Just wanted to ask - is Prime a bloodythirsty, merciless b***ard in this one too?

On a side note, why is he such a bloodthirsty, merciless b***ard in the movies?

Seriously, in all three films so far, when he's not getting his ass kicked, he uses gruesome, dismembering finishing moves that should even make Mortal Kombat players wretch. :SICK:




I think hes completely justified in this one but the level of violence from is much less than anything in the first three.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588141)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 5th, 2014 @ 4:41pm CDT
"Bloodthirsty, merciless b***ard" is actually a bit of a plot-point this time around. Or at least he's set off by a certain something.
Optimus slices Lockdown in half vertically, which is gruesome, but Optimus himself was just seconds ago impaled and nailed to the wall by his own sword, so simply stabbing Lockdown would've been inconsistent.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588145)
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 5th, 2014 @ 5:12pm CDT
Well the film can't make everyone happy. Personally I understood everything clearly although some of it dealt with me using common sense. But I guess everybody needs a thorough explanation on every single thing.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction Bigger in China than US (1588149)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 5th, 2014 @ 5:35pm CDT
I sort of knew that this movie would end in a cliffhanger sort of way. I'd heard somewhere that this is Bay's last Transformers film (don't know if that's still true or not, or if it ever was), and immediately I thought "He's not going to just end it, he's got too much of an ego for that. He's going to have it be a cliffhanger so the next guy will be forced to continue the story and probably use the same character design." Sure enough, cliffhanger ending.

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