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Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown

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As we've seen yesterday, Entertainment Weekly has had a chat with Michael Bay, getting some interesting information about the upcoming Transformers: Age of Extinction movie being the first of a new trilogy (not a reboot - a new installment of three films). What we didn't mention is the fact that Bay also talked more about the still relatively enigmatic character of Lockdown and his ship. Read on below for the details, or head here for the full article!

It’s actually a Transformer who is neither Autobot or Decepticon, a bounty hunter named Lockdown, whose alternate form is a Lamborghini Aventador.

“Lockdown is an interesting character. He travels the galaxy, he works for somebody else. And he’s here for one person, one alien, and then he’s out of here,” Bay says. “So he doesn’t really want to take sides. The cause and balance of the galaxy is kind of messed up when different species play with different species. And that opens up a whole other gigantic world for Transformers.”

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“Lockdown’s ship has a lot of meaning that can go into other movies. There’s a lot of backstory about that ship that’s not laid out here,” he says. “You’re going to see a few things where you’re like ‘What is that? And what is that?’ And you’re going to see a couple shots like, ‘Wait a minute, who are they?’ But we don’t answer those questions.”
Credit(s): EW
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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564661)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 12th, 2014 @ 4:27am CDT
Holy crap, Bay is thinking like a director instead of a pyrotechnics junkie. He's actually said something that makes me think "Wow, I want to see how this develops!" instead of saying something that makes me think "Yeah, I'll just ignore that and take the movie at face value."
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564663)
Posted by Crosshairs on April 12th, 2014 @ 4:34am CDT
Am I the only one thinking Quintessons, or am I giving Bay too much credit?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564665)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 12th, 2014 @ 4:43am CDT
Crosshairs wrote:Am I the only one thinking Quintessons, or am I giving Bay too much credit?


I'm in the same boat. Cautiously optimistic. Who would send a bounty hunter after Optimus Prime (if it's even Optimus that Lockdown is after!)? For all we know, he's after Megatron/Galvatron, or Bumblebee! Maybe that message I sent into space asking for that yellow f**kers head was finally answered!

Or he could be there until the end of the movie where he's killed in a less than two minute fight scene.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564669)
Posted by OptimusPrimeval on April 12th, 2014 @ 5:15am CDT
I hope Lockdown's ship is Unicron's head. I don't know how Bay could pass up the possibility of a movie Unicron, it could be one of the best scenes in sci-fi if it was made suitably epic!
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564671)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 12th, 2014 @ 5:22am CDT
OptimusPrimeval wrote:I hope Lockdown's ship is Unicron's head. I don't know how Bay could pass up the possibility of a movie Unicron, it could be one of the best scenes in sci-fi if it was made suitably epic!



I dunno, that might be a little too CEREBRAL for Bay. ;)
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564694)
Posted by Nisus on April 12th, 2014 @ 8:08am CDT
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
Crosshairs wrote:Am I the only one thinking Quintessons, or am I giving Bay too much credit?


I'm in the same boat. Cautiously optimistic. Who would send a bounty hunter after Optimus Prime (if it's even Optimus that Lockdown is after!)? For all we know, he's after Megatron/Galvatron, or Bumblebee! Maybe that message I sent into space asking for that yellow f**kers head was finally answered!

Or he could be there until the end of the movie where he's killed in a less than two minute fight scene.


Maybe Lockdown isn't even there after a Transformer? To quote Bay, "Lockdown is an interesting character. He travels the galaxy, he works for somebody else. And he’s here for one person, one alien, and then he’s out of here". To me it sounds like he may be after a human. From the Transformers, and other species, point of view (especially those that haven't been to Earth) wouldn't we be the aliens?

Or am I also giving Bayonnaise too much credit?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564704)
Posted by eyl on April 12th, 2014 @ 8:53am CDT
Maybe Lockdown was sent to capture Mark Wahlberg's character. Being the only person that can use a Cybertronian weapon, that make him unique.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564706)
Posted by ishigoto on April 12th, 2014 @ 9:03am CDT
Ezrakel wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
Crosshairs wrote:Am I the only one thinking Quintessons, or am I giving Bay too much credit?


I'm in the same boat. Cautiously optimistic. Who would send a bounty hunter after Optimus Prime (if it's even Optimus that Lockdown is after!)? For all we know, he's after Megatron/Galvatron, or Bumblebee! Maybe that message I sent into space asking for that yellow f**kers head was finally answered!

Or he could be there until the end of the movie where he's killed in a less than two minute fight scene.


Maybe Lockdown isn't even there after a Transformer? To quote Bay, "Lockdown is an interesting character. He travels the galaxy, he works for somebody else. And he’s here for one person, one alien, and then he’s out of here". To me it sounds like he may be after a human. From the Transformers, and other species, point of view (especially those that haven't been to Earth) wouldn't we be the aliens?

Or am I also giving Bayonnaise too much credit?


Nah, If you look at the superbowl trailer you can see a brief clip of Optimus held upside down in Lockdown's ship. Lockdown's probably on the payroll of some Decepticons wanting vengeance on Optimus.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564707)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on April 12th, 2014 @ 9:08am CDT
Or after Grimlock... the dinobots are a special ops team that came to earth before the fallen's time after all.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564708)
Posted by Deathscythetransform on April 12th, 2014 @ 9:21am CDT
I sincerely hope that the others for who lockdown works arent the Quintessons.

I have always hated them with a passion and I dont miss them. I really would have liked to see them die in the third season after the return of optimus prime, but it didn,t happen.

still, it would be a good surprise... but I would still hate them
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564710)
Posted by T-Macksimus on April 12th, 2014 @ 9:39am CDT
I think all of you are giving Bay too much credit. You might want to throw that credit (or scorn) in Ehren Kruger's direction. It's Bay's job to get filled in on the back-story as he goes along since he's the public "face" of the project. He may have had an outline or vague idea but it was Kruger's job to flesh it out, fill in the details and make it work while staying somewhat in continuity with what has come before it in the first 25+ years of lore. Bay has been cranking out other projects in the last few years and hasn't had time to research the price of a pack of toilet paper much less the details of Transformers history like Unicron and the Quintesons.
That having been said, don't be surprised if you do see trinkets like Predator helmets (I'm thinking a pair hanging from the "rear view mirror" like fuzzy dice in a hot rod) or Alien skulls (now I could see one of those making for a cool gear shift handle) or other stuff like that thrown in for shits and giggles inside Lockdowns ship. You see Easter Eggs like those and you can bet that that was Bay's handiwork. And ffs don't respond with the typical "...but a Transformer would crush an Alien skull if it was used as a shifter handle. That's just stupid!" Those were just amusing examples off the top of my head. If anyone bitches about that in all seriousness then they need to be slapped up side the head with 3 feet of limp Cybertronian undercarriage.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564713)
Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 12th, 2014 @ 10:29am CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:If anyone bitches about that in all seriousness then they need to be slapped up side the head with 3 feet of limp Cybertronian undercarriage.


Why?

is no one allowed to have a different opinion?

I didn't know you were god.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564731)
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 12th, 2014 @ 12:21pm CDT
Deathscythetransform wrote:I sincerely hope that the others for who lockdown works arent the Quintessons.

I have always hated them with a passion and I dont miss them. I really would have liked to see them die in the third season after the return of optimus prime, but it didn,t happen.

still, it would be a good surprise... but I would still hate them


I hope it's Unicron. I could care less about Quintessons. I just don't care about them at all.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564736)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 12th, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
your all wrong lockdown is working for.........THE GOBOTS!!!!!! After years of being outcasts & shunned by most they are finally getting their revenge. But joking aside what id like to see is another race of transformers that actually looks like normal transformers so that way we can all see that those older design would actual work on the big screen. I hope its not unicron cause it would be a shame to see him turned into something stupid. The quintessons i wouldnt mind since they havent had a major role in the franchise in a while but only if they are done right & not just thrown in half assed.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564742)
Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 12th, 2014 @ 1:38pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:your all wrong lockdown is working for.........THE GOBOTS!!!!!! After years of being outcasts & shunned by most they are finally getting their revenge. But joking aside what id like to see is another race of transformers that actually looks like normal transformers so that way we can all see that those older design would actual work on the big screen. I hope its not unicron cause it would be a shame to see him turned into something stupid. The quintessons i wouldnt mind since they havent had a major role in the franchise in a while but only if they are done right & not just thrown in half assed.


If your talking about blocky G1 style then no that would never work on the big screen unless this was a minecraft movie.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564802)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 12th, 2014 @ 7:03pm CDT
All past evidence (trailer footage, CinemaCon footage descriptions, etc.) points to Lockdown coming after Optimus.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564809)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on April 12th, 2014 @ 7:59pm CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:I think all of you are giving Bay too much credit. You might want to throw that credit (or scorn) in Ehren Kruger's direction. It's Bay's job to get filled in on the back-story as he goes along since he's the public "face" of the project. He may have had an outline or vague idea but it was Kruger's job to flesh it out, fill in the details and make it work while staying somewhat in continuity with what has come before it in the first 25+ years of lore. Bay has been cranking out other projects in the last few years and hasn't had time to research the price of a pack of toilet paper much less the details of Transformers history like Unicron and the Quintesons.


Personally, I'm glad that Bay was receptive towards Kruger's scriptwriting. Bay was all "don't push the anti kid-fun button" with O&K--his own words from the DVD commentary.

To give credit where it's due, though, Kruger is an improvement over O&K since he's actually a TF fan, and is more knowledgeable with TF lore.

Overall, I'm very happy with what I see in AoE as the first of a new trilogy. Moving away from Sam's story is the wisest thing they did. The "boy and his car" thing was Spielberg's idea in the first place. It was more or less forced onto Bay, who doesn't do "Saturday matinee" movies.

With AoE, Bay is in his element--macho characters (Cade, the Nascar guy), bromance moments (Cade and Optimus). You see these things in his pre-TF movies, and he does pretty well with them. I think he can finally take the TF's more seriously because all his preferred elements are there. And coupled with Kruger's better scriptwriting, everything just falls into place.

He just doesn't do well with a quirky character like Sam, IMO. And if the lead character isn't someone you like, your creative instinct just tries to fight you all the way.

Just my 2 cents' worth.

Sabrblade wrote:All past evidence (trailer footage, CinemaCon footage descriptions, etc.) points to Lockdown coming after Optimus.


That scene of Optimus hanging upside down in Lockdown's ship does make it pretty apparent.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564819)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 12th, 2014 @ 8:34pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:All past evidence (trailer footage, CinemaCon footage descriptions, etc.) points to Lockdown coming after Optimus.


That scene of Optimus hanging upside down in Lockdown's ship does make it pretty apparent.
Not to mention that, in the descriptions of the CinemaCon footage, while Optimus is having his street fight with Galvatron, Lockdown's ship arrives on the scene and Lockdown gets out to beat up and capture Optimus, accidentally scooping up Tessa as well.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564828)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on April 12th, 2014 @ 9:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:All past evidence (trailer footage, CinemaCon footage descriptions, etc.) points to Lockdown coming after Optimus.


That scene of Optimus hanging upside down in Lockdown's ship does make it pretty apparent.
Not to mention that, in the descriptions of the CinemaCon footage, while Optimus is having his street fight with Galvatron, Lockdown's ship arrives on the scene and Lockdown gets out to beat up and capture Optimus, accidentally scooping up Tessa as well.


I think I missed the Cinemacon post.

From your description, it's almost definitely OP.

I'm really curious as to who Lockdown's client is. From Bay's description, it it's almost definitely the Quintessons. But just between you and me, I think he/it/they might fit the description of the Quints (a species of manipulative, scheming aliens with ulterior motives towards the TF's) but might not be Quintessons per se.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564882)
Posted by megatronus on April 13th, 2014 @ 1:25am CDT
My mind naturally gravitates towards toy matters... will the AOE toy be a better or worse stand-in for Classics Lockdown than the ROTF version?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564908)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2014 @ 8:03am CDT
I know this has no chance of happening, but it would be awesome if Lockdown worked for Ultra Magnus.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564914)
Posted by ralphatron on April 13th, 2014 @ 9:12am CDT
Maybe Lockdown is working for Zarak. The ship is a bit Scorponok-ish. Anything is ok with me. I love giant robots, I love pretty ladies, I love explosions. I'm going to have fun no matter what the plot is.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1564916)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 13th, 2014 @ 10:21am CDT
ralphatron wrote:I love giant robots, I love pretty ladies, I love explosions. I'm going to have fun no matter what the plot is.


...Bay? Is that you?

Also, am I the only 1 who thinks of Neo when I see that shot of Crosshairs?

Image

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Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565016)
Posted by harvester on April 13th, 2014 @ 8:12pm CDT

...Bay? Is that you?

Also, am I the only 1 who thinks of Neo when I see that shot of Crosshairs?


I think of DotM Roadbuster =P
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565036)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 13th, 2014 @ 9:02pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, am I the only 1 who thinks of Neo when I see that shot of Crosshairs?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565160)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 14th, 2014 @ 11:24am CDT
I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565188)
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 14th, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.


What about those Decepticon ships Crosshairs and Bumblebee were fighting?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565189)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 14th, 2014 @ 12:50pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.


What about those Decepticon ships Crosshairs and Bumblebee were fighting?
How do you know those are Decepticon ships? If they're affiliated with Lockdown, they could possibly be aligned with his mysterious benefactor(s) as well.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565192)
Posted by SlyTF1 on April 14th, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.


What about those Decepticon ships Crosshairs and Bumblebee were fighting?
How do you know those are Decepticon ships? If they're affiliated with Lockdown, they could possibly be aligned with his mysterious benefactor(s) as well.


Because they were Decepticon ships in DOTM.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565196)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 14th, 2014 @ 1:03pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.


What about those Decepticon ships Crosshairs and Bumblebee were fighting?
How do you know those are Decepticon ships? If they're affiliated with Lockdown, they could possibly be aligned with his mysterious benefactor(s) as well.


Because they were Decepticon ships in DOTM.
Ships themselves cannot choose sides if they're not alive.

Being similar technology is not the same thing as belonging to the same faction.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565527)
Posted by Metro Prime on April 15th, 2014 @ 7:22pm CDT
Stinger's image is literally the exact same as Bumblebee's, except mirrored and red.
Hmm... I just had an idea. If Galvatron rebels against his human masters, what if Stinger rebels, changes his name to Cliffjumper, and becomes an Autobot?
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565531)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 15th, 2014 @ 7:38pm CDT
Metro Prime wrote:Stinger's image is literally the exact same as Bumblebee's, except mirrored and red.
Hmm... I just had an idea. If Galvatron rebels against his human masters, what if Stinger rebels, changes his name to Cliffjumper, and becomes an Autobot?
Then we would have two Cliffjumpers.

Image
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565543)
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on April 15th, 2014 @ 8:30pm CDT
dreadwing95 wrote:i love every single one of these designs. so pumped for this movie

ME TOO!! :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :CON: :BOT:
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Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on April 15th, 2014 @ 8:44pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:Stinger's image is literally the exact same as Bumblebee's, except mirrored and red.
Hmm... I just had an idea. If Galvatron rebels against his human masters, what if Stinger rebels, changes his name to Cliffjumper, and becomes an Autobot?
Then we would have two Cliffjumpers.

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The comics contradict the movies so much,I don't even count them. :michaelbay:
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Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 11:09am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I just had a thought. If Lockdown really ins't a Decepticon like this article claims, then it's possible that this movie could really have no Decepticons in it at all.

Just human antagonists, manmade Transformers, and Lockdown the neutrally-aligned bounty hunter.


What about those Decepticon ships Crosshairs and Bumblebee were fighting?
How do you know those are Decepticon ships? If they're affiliated with Lockdown, they could possibly be aligned with his mysterious benefactor(s) as well.


Because they were Decepticon ships in DOTM.



As seen either humans fly it or human made cons


remember that Mark and others were in the ship during filming,
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Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 11:12am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Metro Prime wrote:Stinger's image is literally the exact same as Bumblebee's, except mirrored and red.
Hmm... I just had an idea. If Galvatron rebels against his human masters, what if Stinger rebels, changes his name to Cliffjumper, and becomes an Autobot?
Then we would have two Cliffjumpers.

Image



unfortunately
Bay does not give two dimes about the comics so it's unlikely unless there is a prequel comic which says that humans found an either dead or injured Cliffjumper on mars and took him and reformated him into Stinger instead of Stinger being based on Bumblebee.

although Stinger was referred to as an Autobot in a clip from Entertainment Tonight back from November, though the toy refers him as a Decepticon.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 11:32am CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:although Stinger was referred to as an Autobot in a clip from Entertainment Tonight back from November,
No he wasn't.
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Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 11:43am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:although Stinger was referred to as an Autobot in a clip from Entertainment Tonight back from November,
No he wasn't.



hmm i though he was referred to an autobot at some point early on.

in all fairness i got that quote from the wiki (that they only post information that is correct and you have to be one of the moderators on that site to change it)
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 11:49am CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:although Stinger was referred to as an Autobot in a clip from Entertainment Tonight back from November,
No he wasn't.



hmm i though he was referred to an autobot at some point early on.

in all fairness i got that quote from the wiki (that they only post information that is correct and you have to be one of the moderators on that site to change it)
Done. Said note is now gone.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565722)
Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 12:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:although Stinger was referred to as an Autobot in a clip from Entertainment Tonight back from November,
No he wasn't.



hmm i though he was referred to an autobot at some point early on.

in all fairness i got that quote from the wiki (that they only post information that is correct and you have to be one of the moderators on that site to change it)
Done. Said note is now gone.


alright thank you for clearing that up.

i just hope that Stinger is bad at first who wishes to defeat Bee because he is jealous of Bee being an actual Transformer and not a human creation but at the end or near the end of the film Bee convinces Stinger he can also be like them and joins them.

but knowing the movies he is probably going to have 2 lines and be blown to pieces by Bee.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 12:30pm CDT
I'm honestly not expecting any of the manmade robots to have any lines, much less personalities. If they do speak, I'd imagine that it would be the voices of the human operators, or as stereotypical robotic voices.
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Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 12:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm honestly not expecting any of the manmade robots to have any lines, much less personalities. If they do speak, I'd imagine that it would be the voices of the human operators, or as stereotypical robotic voices.



What about Galvatron?

plus how does Galvatron and Stinger join the cons if they are on the humans side and don't gain intelligence or sentience?
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:02pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I'm honestly not expecting any of the manmade robots to have any lines, much less personalities. If they do speak, I'd imagine that it would be the voices of the human operators, or as stereotypical robotic voices.



What about Galvatron?

plus how does Galvatron and Stinger join the cons if they are on the humans side and don't gain intelligence or sentience?
There has been nothing said of any of the manmade bots joining the Decepticons in this movie. The only reason people assume that will happen is because their toys are being sold as Decepticons.

Same with Lockdown. We just found out that he belongs to no faction in this movie, yet all his toys are labeled as Decepticons too.

But that happens all the time with non-Decepticon evil bots having their toys sold as Decepticon toys. Nearly all Unicron toys since Cybertron have sold him as Con, despite his evil transcending that of the Decepticons. Animated Lockdown was faction neutral yet had his toys sold as Cons too. Prime Nemesis Prime and Silas Breakdown belonged to the MECH faction yet had their toys sold as Decepticons. It's all because its easier to market an evil Transformers robot as a Decepticon (or Predacon, or Vehicon) than as belonging to no faction or as something else entirely.
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Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I'm honestly not expecting any of the manmade robots to have any lines, much less personalities. If they do speak, I'd imagine that it would be the voices of the human operators, or as stereotypical robotic voices.



What about Galvatron?

plus how does Galvatron and Stinger join the cons if they are on the humans side and don't gain intelligence or sentience?
There has been nothing said of any of the manmade bots joining the Decepticons in this movie. The only reason people assume that will happen is because their toys are being sold as Decepticons.

Same with Lockdown. We just found out that he belongs to no faction in this movie, yet all his toys are labeled as Decepticons too.

But that happens all the time with non-Decepticon evil bots having their toys sold as Decepticon toys. Nearly all Unicron toys since Cybertron have sold him as Con, despite his evil transcending that of the Decepticons. Animated Lockdown was faction neutral yet had his toys sold as Cons too. Prime Nemesis Prime and Silas Breakdown belonged to the MECH faction yet had their toys sold as Decepticons. It's all because its easier to market an evil Transformers robot as a Decepticon (or Predacon, or Vehicon) than as belonging to no faction or as something else entirely.




I don't think Hasbro or Bay are trying to get death threats.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565746)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:13pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I don't think Hasbro or Bay are trying to get death threats.
Haven't you seen the backlash to the past three films? They don't even have to try. The fanrage just comes naturally. :P
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565747)
Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I don't think Hasbro or Bay are trying to get death threats.
Haven't you seen the backlash to the past three films? They don't even have to try. The fanrage just comes naturally. :P



Yeah i know that but i mean fans will do stupid stuff like attack Bay with a fan (yes i know those guys were not actually transformer fans)


Edit: By the way i have some news but i want to discuss with someone about it (transformers universe related) but i think i wrote my report poorly.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565750)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I don't think Hasbro or Bay are trying to get death threats.
Haven't you seen the backlash to the past three films? They don't even have to try. The fanrage just comes naturally. :P



Yeah i know that but i mean fans will do stupid stuff like attack Bay with a fan (yes i know those guys were not actually transformer fans)
As if that would be any different from previous fan outrage aimed at the movies. :roll:
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1565752)
Posted by mirageandjazz1197 on April 16th, 2014 @ 1:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I don't think Hasbro or Bay are trying to get death threats.
Haven't you seen the backlash to the past three films? They don't even have to try. The fanrage just comes naturally. :P



Yeah i know that but i mean fans will do stupid stuff like attack Bay with a fan (yes i know those guys were not actually transformer fans)
As if that would be any different from previous fan outrage aimed at the movies. :roll:



i guess so.

anyways i have to go so i will continue this later.
Re: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Michael Bay Gives Further Details on Lockdown (1566547)
Posted by rich prime on April 19th, 2014 @ 9:28am CDT
Grimlock looks badass I can't wait to see prime vs grimlock
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Posted by Superwheeljack on August 7th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
Shelf Space wrote:star wars sucks gtfo


A beautiful quote.
Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #98 - Combiner Wars
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