Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 20 "Legacy"

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"Legacy"

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Synopsis soon?

Maybe this is a Thirteen Primes episode. Something that clues us in as to who and what they are.

Zap2it have updated their listing for the upcoming Transformers Prime episode "Legacy" with a brief description. Check it out below, then discuss here.

Jack is paired off with a new partner; Megatron tries to keep Optimus from discovering the existence of a legendary weapon.

Now why would Jack need a new partner? Hmm?

Could it be that Miko becomes Arcee's partner?

Or does Arcee die?

I believe the new Autobot could be Jack's partner while the swords show in the promo could be the legendary weapons.

I concur with XDMan; the swords could be the legendary weapons while the new 'bot is Jack's partner. But the debate is what and who specifically (Although for all we know, the sword could be Vector Prime's just like in Cybertron)

I'm holding out for the scepter of scraplet command......those things creep me out.

I don't think Jack is getting paired off with the new guy permanently, I'm thinking it's just for this episode. Kinda show the new guy the ropes, introduce a little character building while Arcee is dealing with the hangover from the previous flashback episode.

I wonder if the sword optimus has is the star saber? Surely they are not gonna go that route with the star saber, skyboom shield, and Requiem Blaster from Armada. But that would fit into the relic stuff they been doing and could play on those for a while with them constantly changing possession of them till Megs finally get all three and tries to blow the Earth up or something.

Or maybe the white car we have seen in the promo images is Drift and he has lost his sword on Earth and optimus finds it. In the comics the faction that reformatted Drift when he was damaged gave him a sword which was legendary for tapping into the spark of the person using it to give them more power.

PrymeStriker wrote:Now why would Jack need a new partner? Hmm?

Could it be that Miko becomes Arcee's partner?

Or does Arcee die?

YAY!!!

SlyTF1 wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Now why would Jack need a new partner? Hmm?

Could it be that Miko becomes Arcee's partner?

Or does Arcee die?

YAY!!!

Indeed.

key to vector sigma or plasma energy chamber perhaps?

Hmmm... Sounds like, to me, that Jack's role within the Autobot faction has gone up a notch ever since he was given that "honorary Prime" role.

PrymeStriker wrote:
Now why would Jack need a new partner? Hmm?

Could it be that Miko becomes Arcee's partner?

Well, seeing how Jack was made an honorary Prime in the beginning of season 2, it is easy to assume that he is being partnered up with the new member of the team. Namely one that requires somebody mature enough to show him (or her) the ropes on Earth.

Besides... Miko said that she would never leave Bulkhead. That, and since she is 15, she is not at the age where she can drive a motorcycle.

PrymeStriker wrote:Or does Arcee die?

Now... Now... Does she look like a Cliffjumper or even a Breakdown to you?

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Or does Arcee die?

Now... Now... Does she look like a Cliffjumper or even a Breakdown to you?

The writers have stated that no one is safe from death in this show. You don't know who's going to die next. By the end of Season 3 the only original Autobot left could be Optimus for all we know.

PrymeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Or does Arcee die?

Now... Now... Does she look like a Cliffjumper or even a Breakdown to you?

The writers have stated that no one is safe from death in this show. You don't know who's going to die next. By the end of Season 3 the only original Autobot left could be Optimus for all we know.

Yeah... And that is writer's lingo for "We can kill off any character we want, just not the ones that Hasbro want to keep alive for marketing reasons."

It's kind of like NCIS, which disposed of two major characters before replacing them with others, disposing of a recurring character, and might be removing another main character (which is highly unlikely). So when it comes to this series, they will only dispose of characters tied to voice actors that do not (or are not allowed to) renew their contracts, much less willing to do such as said character.

And besides... Arcee was the one who had technically gotten revenge for Break Down. So you should be grateful for that.

I really hope it's not the Star Saber becuase the swords seen the promo look way too small. The Star Saber needs to be as big as (if not bigger than) the Forge of Solus Prime, since the Star Saber is not merely an Iacon Relic but an Artifact of the Primes.

I really hope it's not the Star Saber becuase the swords seen the promo look way too small. The Star Saber needs to be as big as (if not bigger than) the Forge of Solus Prime, since the Star Saber is not merely an Iacon Relic but an Artifact of the Primes.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:Or does Arcee die?

Now... Now... Does she look like a Cliffjumper or even a Breakdown to you?

The writers have stated that no one is safe from death in this show. You don't know who's going to die next. By the end of Season 3 the only original Autobot left could be Optimus for all we know.

Yeah... And that is writer's lingo for "We can kill off any character we want, just not the ones that Hasbro want to keep alive for marketing reasons."

It's kind of like NCIS, which disposed of two major characters before replacing them with others, disposing of a recurring character, and might be removing another main character (which is highly unlikely). So when it comes to this series, they will only dispose of characters tied to voice actors that do not (or are not allowed to) renew their contracts, much less willing to do such as said character.

And besides... Arcee was the one who had technically gotten revenge for Break Down. So you should be grateful for that.

I personally do not care which Autobots or Decepticons die, but it's how they die that matters. The fact that Breakdown was killed by Airachnid is the reason I wish he'd come back, aside from the part where he's my favorite character. Airachnid is as annoying as Miko was to me, and therefore did not deserve to die by the hands "of that retch."

Besides, not every character in the toyline's a big seller. They'd kill a character just like that once it doesn't sell. I have high doubts Arcee will be infected with Bumblebee cancer.

Sabrblade wrote:I really hope it's not the Star Saber becuase the swords seen the promo look way too small. The Star Saber needs to be as big as (if not bigger than) the Forge of Solus Prime, since the Star Saber is not merely an Iacon Relic but an Artifact of the Primes.

I am mixed on this myself. Because the true potential of a blade is not based on its size, but rather what it is capable of doing. However... I would have assumed that it was a broad sword-sized blade, based on the images I had seen tied to it.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I am mixed on this myself. Because the true potential of a blade is not based on its size, but rather what it is capable of doing.

I agree, but, I still think it would make sense for the sword to be proportionally to scale with Prima since all of the Thirteen are supposed to be really big guys. and if the size of Solus Prime's Forge was any indication, the Star Saber should be huge (while this sword here looks more like a regularly sized sword)

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:However... I would have assumed that it was a broad sword-sized blade, based on the images I had seen tied to it.

Agreed.

Sabrblade wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:I am mixed on this myself. Because the true potential of a blade is not based on its size, but rather what it is capable of doing.

I agree, but, I still think it would make sense for the sword to be proportionally to scale with Prima since all of the Thirteen are supposed to be really big guys. and if the size of Solus Prime's Forge was any indication, the Star Saber should be huge (while this sword here looks more like a regularly sized sword)

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:However... I would have assumed that it was a broad sword-sized blade, based on the images I had seen tied to it.

Agreed.

it may be capable of "transforming" to accommodate its user.

i think this will be a prime history episode telling the story of the primes and origins of the fallen and maybe hopefuly a raf episode when he go all ape crap tell the team how he feal being left off missions

Sabrblade wrote:I agree, but, I still think it would make sense for the sword to be proportionally to scale with Prima since all of the Thirteen are supposed to be really big guys. and if the size of Solus Prime's Forge was any indication, the Star Saber should be huge (while this sword here looks more like a regularly sized sword)

For some reason, this reminds me of not only those old (I think it was) 7-11 commercials where they show a big guy with a small cup, saying "This is supposed to be a large?"... But also see you and two other Seibertron.com members standing over this weapon and you saying "Where's the blade?"

But yeah. When it comes to the difference between mythology in any period of time, region of space, etc. and this - I 100% agree with you. Because in many instances, not may would like to find out that the story of Hercules was actually about a 13 year old demigoddess with a Shizuo Heiwajima (DURARARA!!) complex.

However... I am hoping that they make it as great as it is meant to be. And if it turns out to be a mere short sword, I am going to be hoping that it has a "Sword of Omens" (Thundercats) attribute that allows it to grow in size when needed (and not simply grasped, like Inuyasha's blade).

njb902 wrote:it may be capable of "transforming" to accommodate its user.

I really like this explanation! Because it really fits what was said with at least one other item mentioned in the series.

Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

Bubbah wrote:Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

The Heart of Darkness is IDW G1, yes.

But there's been several evil Matrices over the years. Matrix of Evil, Galva-Matrix, Matrix of Conquest/Matrix of Chaos/Anti-Matrix, Dead Matrix, the nonexistent Decepticon Matrix, etc.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bubbah wrote:Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

The Heart of Darkness is IDW G1, yes.

But there's been several evil Matrices over the years. Matrix of Evil, Galva-Matrix, Matrix of Conquest/Matrix of Chaos/Anti-Matrix, Dead Matrix, the nonexistent Decepticon Matrix, etc.

Whew ... I've definitely got some back reading to do! Haha

Bubbah wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

nikkinavarro wrote:Like said, Jack is probably showing the new bot around, I doubt it will it be permanent unless something happened to Arcee. And with the weapon, it could be the StarSaber. It can fit really well considering all the relics in the story right now.

Looking at the list of upcoming Arms Microns toys, it looks like it with be Smokescreen. Which could result in Jack saying that it is a loaner because his bike is in the shop.

Also... The Star Saber is a possible item, as it requires a Matrix piece! And who knows? Also, maybe there is more than one Matrix and Megatron obtained it?

Isn't the "anti-Matrix" called the Heart of Darkness? Or is that only in the IDW continuity?

From what I have read on TFwiki, it is a IDW-based G1 continuity.

However, there is the Matrix of Conquest. And even though that was a fake in the G1 cartoon continuity, that could be used - Especially if it recreates the Dark Star Saber sequence done in Armada.

It's become par for the course lately, the AT&T U-verse program guide reveals additional details for the upcoming Transformers Prime episode "Legacy". This episode is scheduled to air on September 21st. See the extended synopsis below:

Megatron does his best to distract Optimus from the reality of a weapon of legend belonging to the Primes, which if discovered, could change the entire outcome of the war; Jack and his new Autobot companion set out on a mission.

El Duque wrote:It's become par for the course lately, the AT&T U-verse program guide reveals additional details for the upcoming Transformers Prime episode "Legacy". This episode is scheduled to air on September 21st. See the extended synopsis below:

Megatron does his best to distract Optimus from the reality of a weapon of legend belonging to the Primes, which if discovered, could change the entire outcome of the war; Jack and his new Autobot companion set out on a mission.

Based on that, that may be the origin of the "dark energon"/"energon" sabers we see Megatron and Optimus respectively wield in the promo. Whether or not they're called the "Dark Saber" and/or "Star Saber" in the show (or if the two are one and the same), we'll have to wait for the episode to air.

Sabrblade wrote:I really hope it's not the Star Saber becuase the swords seen the promo look way too small. The Star Saber needs to be as big as (if not bigger than) the Forge of Solus Prime, since the Star Saber is not merely an Iacon Relic but an Artifact of the Primes.

Well, there's no reason the relics of the Primes couldn't reshape themselves to be more "user friendly" for whatever Prime weilds them.

Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Sabrblade wrote:

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Although some would argue that Miko's not old enough to ride a motorcycle. Meanwhile Raf can ride safely inside Bumblebee without a problem (though he's not in the driver's seat).

PrymeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

It's probably just to have someone to show Smokescreen the ropes. Arcee could be with Miko this time if Bulkhead's still not 100% well.

Although some would argue that Miko's not old enough to ride a motorcycle. Meanwhile Raf can ride safely inside Bumblebee without a problem (though he's not in the driver's seat).

While I do agree Miko is too young to be on a motorcycle, I could see them do it temporarily as an "emergency .. Get on, we've gotta go" type situation. The only reason I think that is because they could have Bulkhead see this, while Miko is having a lot of fun riding Arcee, and further his depression and feelings of being replaced.

And I've got to give the writers credit, small things like having Raf & Miko always being shown in the passenger seats (because they're too young to drive) are nice. It's the attention to small details like this that really make me like this show even more.

I wonder if Bulkhead will sorta of leave Team Prime to run with Wheeljack since right now Smokescreen has replaced him.

BeastWarsFTW wrote:I wonder if Bulkhead will sorta of leave Team Prime to run with Wheeljack since right now Smokescreen has replaced him.

I don't think running with Wheeljack is the best idea either. Sure, he could steal the Apex Armor (which I wouldn't recommend), but Wheeljack's pretty banged up too from Hardshell (not to mention Starscream, Makeshift, Dreadwing, and Soundwave. He's gotten beat up in every episode he appeared in). I predict they'd both die easily.

Besides, in the Human Factor, Bulkhead and Smokescreen seem to be taking on Breakdown together. Perhaps this would be a nice time to patch things up.

As long as they don't become partners.

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Jack is paired up with a new partner? I hope that this doesn't mean that they are going to kill off Arcee or put her on a bus (or whatever the euphamism is). Hopefully this will be a temporary thing and not permanent.

They're doing it because he is the only human who is capable of doing it. Miko, despite her enthusiasm and willingness, cannot do it because of Bulkhead - Who is currently feeling the anxiety and fear tied to the overall feeling of being replaced. (We generally call that an OCD moment.) And Raph is pretty much too young, as well as has other responsibilities.

So all Jack will do is say that his "bike" is in the shop and this is a "loaner" to those who ask. Plus, unless things change, Smokey could always end up being paired off with that one girl that Jack likes.