Transformers Robots in Disguise Crash Combiners Dragstrip and Wildbreak Rumoured
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It seems Robots in Disguise may be getting some stunticons. TFW2005 user Strarf has found a tag on a Walmart peg for Crash Combiners with the names Dragstrip and Wildbreak. This set, and even these characters, have not been revealed yet, so this is the first time they are mentioned for this line. The price tage shows the standard Crash Combiner set price of $ 14.97 USD. So do you guys think it will be new molds, or just redecos of existing sets? And do you hope that means we see thse baddies in the upcoming Robots in Disguise season? Let us know!
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 19th, 2017 @ 3:26pm CST
"Crash" and the price seems to indicate the Crash Combiner assortment, but it's too soon to tell if they're redecos. The specific name on the tag point to exclusives, which are usually redecos, but it's possible they're from molds we have not seen yet.
Posted by RAR on January 19th, 2017 @ 4:23pm CST
Very confusing I'm keen to get some Weapon Minicons as they are a lot more long-term useful than the more generic kinds are.
Posted by Kurona on January 19th, 2017 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 19th, 2017 @ 5:43pm CST
Posted by Emerje on January 19th, 2017 @ 8:21pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The specific name on the tag point to exclusives
Not necessarily, those flags or whatever they're called, the ones that indicate Rollbacks, new products and such, tend to have different labels than the pegs. They're almost always taken from a single item in a product line, but reflect the entire product line, while the regular yellow price tags are for the entire line. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure the yellow tags come from corporate while the flag type ones are grabbed off the computer and someone just happened to snag one that wasn't released yet.
Or I could be wrong, I don't know, I've never worked retail a day in my life. Just observations from a few decades of price checking at Walmart.
Emerje
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2017 @ 9:27pm CST
That said, I don't think we'll get a full 5 bot combiner. We'll probably just make due with the crash combining and stealth force activator thingys
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:04pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:05pm CST
Posted by Kurona on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:13pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Of all cons, The stunticons make the most sense as crash combiners.
That said, I don't think we'll get a full 5 bot combiner. We'll probably just make due with the crash combining and stealth force activator thingys
There was something about Bumblebee's team having to 'face 5 decepticons that combine' or something like that, and that's why they now have to combine. I was sure it was on the Animated series thread, but I can't find it... still, I know it's a thing that exists.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:17pm CST
Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Of all cons, The stunticons make the most sense as crash combiners.
That said, I don't think we'll get a full 5 bot combiner. We'll probably just make due with the crash combining and stealth force activator thingys
There was something about Bumblebee's team having to 'face 5 decepticons that combine' or something like that, and that's why they now have to combine. I was sure it was on the Animated series thread, but I can't find it... still, I know it's a thing that exists.
Oh I remember that little thing, but I don't think we're going to see it as a toy.
But we must also remember this: another news story said the new season would air this month, and there is no sign of new episodes for at least the next 2 weeks, pushing it back to February, so anything really is possible/questionable
Posted by Kurona on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Of all cons, The stunticons make the most sense as crash combiners.
That said, I don't think we'll get a full 5 bot combiner. We'll probably just make due with the crash combining and stealth force activator thingys
There was something about Bumblebee's team having to 'face 5 decepticons that combine' or something like that, and that's why they now have to combine. I was sure it was on the Animated series thread, but I can't find it... still, I know it's a thing that exists.
Oh I remember that little thing, but I don't think we're going to see it as a toy.
But we must also remember this: another news story said the new season would air this month, and there is no sign of new episodes for at least the next 2 weeks, pushing it back to February, so anything really is possible/questionable
Seems very weird that they'd have something that big be the main thread that could very clearly be made into a toy - especially since we just had a toyline centering around that concept - and not be a toy. Even if it was something very small and simplified, like Beast Hunter Abominus or something.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:27pm CST
Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Of all cons, The stunticons make the most sense as crash combiners.
That said, I don't think we'll get a full 5 bot combiner. We'll probably just make due with the crash combining and stealth force activator thingys
There was something about Bumblebee's team having to 'face 5 decepticons that combine' or something like that, and that's why they now have to combine. I was sure it was on the Animated series thread, but I can't find it... still, I know it's a thing that exists.
Oh I remember that little thing, but I don't think we're going to see it as a toy.
But we must also remember this: another news story said the new season would air this month, and there is no sign of new episodes for at least the next 2 weeks, pushing it back to February, so anything really is possible/questionable
Seems very weird that they'd have something that big be the main thread that could very clearly be made into a toy - especially since we just had a toyline centering around that concept - and not be a toy. Even if it was something very small and simplified, like Beast Hunter Abominus or something.
I'm just throwing my thoughts out there.
I don't think it will be "generations" seeing as how the last combiner to use 5 deluxe sized members worked.
The legions seem to not be indicating combining potential at this time.
The crash combiners and activators involve 2 bots doing some cool stuff, but no real room to add another member.
So really, I'm not seeing a 5 member combiner toy. Plus, we've seen the figures revealed to be part of the next 2 waves after the current one, which would mean any toy would be around October or something with a release date, and in order to get 5, there would either need to be a big wave (seeing as how each has 2-3 new characters and a repaint max per size class) or it would need to be 2 waves, which would push the rest to 2018.
I'm doubtful of the 5 member. Maybe they'll just make it Menasor and he looks like his CW toy so it counts
Posted by william-james88 on January 19th, 2017 @ 10:48pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 20th, 2017 @ 12:28am CST
RAR wrote:If anyone has chance (perhaps in a tru) I'd be interested to see a side by side photo or at least a report to find out of the new Warrior Starscream is a simple re-pack or a slight repaint.
Also I just realised how peculiar it is that if they can repack previous exclusives that they don't make something like a new Megatronus release (of the one with the battle mask face) same colour as before or not.
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Oh and I got the Combiner Force Bumblebee One Step Changer he's not unlike the green slash packet One Step-Prime really transformations wise - his arms raise but his head doesn't move. and he almost totally lacks for paint.
Also the clip on wheels stick a lot too.
I'll see if I can find the Optimus too.
They're the same, several people have posted pics online.
Posted by william-james88 on January 20th, 2017 @ 6:00am CST
Posted by RAR on January 20th, 2017 @ 7:37am CST
That was why I was expecting him to be a slightly different colour (like Megatronus was) so as to not step on TRU's toes.
As now we will have the bizarre situation where the TRU exclusive Starscream will be on the shelf at the same time as the exact same Starscream is in another packet with the two packets being at two distinct prices for the same toy.
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Anyway speaking of Starscream I just got the Legion class on he's really rather great - might even be the best legion in the entire RID Legion line.
He has knees and his wings are not blocked by the kibble like they are on the Warrior class. He's got a ton of joints on him too like multi-jointed shoulders - the only lack is his head doesn't turn other than that he's terrific.
I wonder if they'd consider making a One-step Starscream this year ?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 20th, 2017 @ 6:24pm CST
RAR wrote:I find that really strange - it opens up such a lot of questions - such can Hasbro now reissue any and all of the clash-of-the-Transformers figures again if they want as the only thing that has changed was the passage of a year from 2016 to 2017 to explain the re-pack of Starscream
This has me curious: what is the product code for Combiner Force Starscream? Clash of the Transformers Starscream's is B7958/B7935 Asst. If the first B-number is the same, it's considered the same toy.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:35pm CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:37pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's a pic of Menasor on the side of a bus
...well [bleep].
Posted by Kurona on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:42pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's a pic of Menasor on the side of a bus
Well, this is... huge, in more than one way. Where'd you find this?
Posted by Sigma Magnus on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:45pm CST
Posted by Kurona on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:I'm sure that bus wasn't supposed to be used yet, and someone's in trouble. Also, Menasor and the Team Bee combiner are both four-bot, not five. Weird.
Yeah, and since the arms are both two clearly distinct components; this means that the last component is larger and becomes both legs mastodon-style. Which is... interesting.
I find it funny how they're not just doing Combiners in a main line so soon after CW, but specifically one of the Combiners from CW in the main line. I would've thought that'd be a bit repetitive for kids when it's not someone extremely popular like Optimus or Bumblebee, but... did Menasor just get really popular or something? He's starred in a lot of things by now. IDW CW, Machinima CW, in general was the main Decepticon combiner used in advertising... and now this.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:53pm CST
The first comes to us from Carytheone who discovered that the wave 3 and 4 minicons that included the likes of Blizzard Slipstream, Hammer, and Swelter among others, have begun to show up at 5 below. This sighting was confirmed by yours truly, suggesting that this is indeed a widespread sale. So if you are interested in some minis that haven't hit regular retail, go find a 5 Below!
The second sighting is from Destronmirage who has discovered that at least his Walmart is trying to rid itself of the minicons by placing them on a $2 sale. So check out your local Walmart to see if you can find some cheap minicons there!
Finally, Seibertron himself has reported that the new Combiner Force 3-step Optimus Prime and Bumblebee have been spotted at his Walmart in Mount Prospect, Illinois. These new figures are based on the designs of the previous 3-step changers, but they feature some new tricks in vehicle mode that resemble the minicon activators, just minus the minicon.
Check out the sightings, and head to your locals stores to hunt down these new Robots in Disguise Products!
Posted by Emerje on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:53pm CST
Stunticons look to be Dragstrip, "Wildbreak", Motormaster, and Breakdown I guess as the legs? I wonder if they'll even make all this into figures?
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on January 20th, 2017 @ 8:55pm CST
I'm thinking here.Kurona wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's a pic of Menasor on the side of a bus
Well, this is... huge, in more than one way. Where'd you find this?
And here is a better look at the Bee Team combiner.
Especially weird considering the press release for season 3 said that the Decepticon combiner was a five-bot one, right?Sigma Magnus wrote:I'm sure that bus wasn't supposed to be used yet, and someone's in trouble. Also, Menasor and the Team Bee combiner are both four-bot, not five. Weird.
Posted by DestronMirage22 on January 20th, 2017 @ 11:22pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 20th, 2017 @ 11:26pm CST
DestronMirage22 wrote:Wow, I can't believe my post made the news page. That's so cool! No news credit though?
Carytheone submitted the 5-below part first. Your post was pulled in as a roundup, but because Cary had posted something first, he got it. We can only give 1 news credit per news.
Don't worry though! Just keep sending us news and we will keep on posting it!
BTW, If you guys ever want to try out Crash Combiners, get PrimeStrong. He(?) is so much fun.
Posted by DestronMirage22 on January 20th, 2017 @ 11:37pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:DestronMirage22 wrote:Wow, I can't believe my post made the news page. That's so cool! No news credit though?
Carytheone submitted the 5-below part first. Your post was pulled in as a roundup, but because Cary had posted something first, he got it. We can only give 1 news credit per news.
Don't worry though! Just keep sending us news and we will keep on posting it!
BTW, If you guys ever want to try out Crash Combiners, get PrimeStrong. He(?) is so much fun.
Ahh, I see now. No worries, it was a huge honor just to be included in the news post.
I like that PrimeStrong headsculpt. Reminds me alot of Star Convoy. Anybody else seeing it?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 21st, 2017 @ 1:13am CST
RAR wrote:I find that really strange - it opens up such a lot of questions - such can Hasbro now reissue any and all of the clash-of-the-Transformers figures again if they want as the only thing that has changed was the passage of a year from 2016 to 2017 to explain the re-pack of Starscream
That was why I was expecting him to be a slightly different colour (like Megatronus was) so as to not step on TRU's toes.
As now we will have the bizarre situation where the TRU exclusive Starscream will be on the shelf at the same time as the exact same Starscream is in another packet with the two packets being at two distinct prices for the same toy.
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Anyway speaking of Starscream I just got the Legion class on he's really rather great - might even be the best legion in the entire RID Legion line.
He has knees and his wings are not blocked by the kibble like they are on the Warrior class. He's got a ton of joints on him too like multi-jointed shoulders - the only lack is his head doesn't turn other than that he's terrific.
I wonder if they'd consider making a One-step Starscream this year ?
During Beast Hunters Target had 3 BH Bumblebees on the shelf at the same time. If you include the original Bees as well there were 5
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 21st, 2017 @ 3:43am CST
Emerje wrote:Very interesting. Looks like they're made from four-member teams: three normal sized characters for the arms and torso and a larger character for everything below the waist. Autobots have Bee, Sideswipe, and Strongarm at the top and Grimlock on bottom.
Stunticons look to be Dragstrip, "Wildbreak", Motormaster, and Breakdown I guess as the legs? I wonder if they'll even make all this into figures?
Emerje
Well according to internet chatter....Breakdown is missing from this combiner(but we haven't got a clear look at who forms the legs yet?...if no Breakdown...then obviously it'll be Dead End)
Posted by william-james88 on January 21st, 2017 @ 6:02am CST
And D, how are the individual robot modes?
Posted by Kurona on January 21st, 2017 @ 7:35am CST
william-james88 wrote:Why wouldn't motormaster be the legs?
And D, how are the individual robot modes?
Because he very much seems to be the torso.
Posted by RAR on January 21st, 2017 @ 7:50am CST
https://t.co/Um7HXPKLWi
In other news McDonald's has an RID Promotion.
https://t.co/5wbgDjiYcv
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The cartoon is the main marketing tool for your toyline so the Combiner Force thread seems to be essentially something like Predacons Rising that has been cut up into chunks so they can display it as a short season.
They are pushing a toyline yet they show was cancelled early and had a lot of episodes pulled - seems odd that the line is getting it's second wind just in them to be abandoned in terms of it's marketing back-stop "The Cartoon".
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Also are those new 3-steps the same size as the old ones are still ?
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I will be curious to find out if the stamp & tampograph Number on Warrior Class CF Starscream remains the same as COTT Starscream or not.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 21st, 2017 @ 9:34am CST
william-james88 wrote:D, how are the individual robot modes?
Strongarm is ok. Prime looks shite. But they aren't about the the individual modes, so I'm good with it. Primestrong himself is really good looking. Excused the robots modes mostly
RAR wrote:I forgot to mention that there is a clearer image of the Bee combiner I posted news of it via TFW2005 by accident in the Rescue Bots Thread before the Menasor image on the bus showed up.
https://t.co/Um7HXPKLWi
That image was included in my post over in the cartoon discussion thread where the combiner news was made
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 21st, 2017 @ 9:50am CST
william-james88 wrote:Why wouldn't motormaster be the legs?
And D, how are the individual robot modes?
Well from the pic on the side of that bus...it looks like he's the torso, with the two halves of either Drag Strip or Wildbreaker forming both arms...which then leaves two unaccounted for((or one! depending on how his legs are formed & by which character(as the two halves of Grimlock appear to form both legs of that Bee combiner)....& if Menasor is a combiner of 4 or not?)).
Posted by Kurona on January 21st, 2017 @ 9:59am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Why wouldn't motormaster be the legs?
And D, how are the individual robot modes?
Well from the pic on the side of that bus...it looks like he's the torso, with the two halves of either Drag Strip or Wildbreaker forming both arms...which then leaves two unaccounted for((or one! depending on how his legs are formed & by which character(as the two halves of Grimlock appear to form both legs of that Bee combiner)....& if Menasor is a combiner of 4 or not?)).
? The arms look to be two different cars rather than two halves of the same car.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 21st, 2017 @ 10:19am CST
Kurona wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Why wouldn't motormaster be the legs?
And D, how are the individual robot modes?
Well from the pic on the side of that bus...it looks like he's the torso, with the two halves of either Drag Strip or Wildbreaker forming both arms...which then leaves two unaccounted for((or one! depending on how his legs are formed & by which character(as the two halves of Grimlock appear to form both legs of that Bee combiner)....& if Menasor is a combiner of 4 or not?)).
? The arms look to be two different cars rather than two halves of the same car.
Ah right, well maybe those shoulders belong to Motormaster...as they appear to be identical &/or maybe the two different cars will both be off the same mold? either way....that's what was leading me to believe that the arms came from the same car
Posted by RAR on January 21st, 2017 @ 11:37am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That image was included in my post over in the cartoon discussion thread where the combiner news was made
There is a cartoon discussion thread ?
Teasing aside though - I wouldn't read that for story spoiler reasons.
Posted by Emerje on January 21st, 2017 @ 3:40pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:Emerje wrote:Very interesting. Looks like they're made from four-member teams: three normal sized characters for the arms and torso and a larger character for everything below the waist. Autobots have Bee, Sideswipe, and Strongarm at the top and Grimlock on bottom.
Stunticons look to be Dragstrip, "Wildbreak", Motormaster, and Breakdown I guess as the legs? I wonder if they'll even make all this into figures?
Emerje
Well according to internet chatter....Breakdown is missing from this combiner(but we haven't got a clear look at who forms the legs yet?...if no Breakdown...then obviously it'll be Dead End)
Going by the image on the bus, from left to right appears to be Dragstrip, "Wildbreak", and Motormaster. The fourth guy at the end appears to have a white body, a blue head, and a red face. They'll probably change the name and make it a different character, but the colors for G1 Breakdown seem to be there, at least they do in a very grainy, blurry, and small image.
Emerje
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 21st, 2017 @ 4:39pm CST
RAR wrote:I forgot to mention that there is a clearer image of the Bee combiner I posted news of it via TFW2005 by accident in the Rescue Bots Thread before the Menasor image on the bus showed up.
https://t.co/Um7HXPKLWi
In other news McDonald's has an RID Promotion.
https://t.co/5wbgDjiYcv
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The cartoon is the main marketing tool for your toyline so the Combiner Force thread seems to be essentially something like Predacons Rising that has been cut up into chunks so they can display it as a short season.
They are pushing a toyline yet they show was cancelled early and had a lot of episodes pulled - seems odd that the line is getting it's second wind just in them to be abandoned in terms of it's marketing back-stop "The Cartoon".
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Also are those new 3-steps the same size as the old ones are still ?
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I will be curious to find out if the stamp & tampograph Number on Warrior Class CF Starscream remains the same as COTT Starscream or not.
The show got canceled? I'm still waiting for the last episodes with Starscream to go up on my On Demand channel. If the show is canceled I expect a lot of stores to drop the product sooner than later.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 21st, 2017 @ 4:45pm CST
No such news has been given from anyone official.chuckdawg1999 wrote:The show got canceled?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 21st, 2017 @ 10:03pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:No such news has been given from anyone official.chuckdawg1999 wrote:The show got canceled?
Refresh my memory here: has anyone said that Combiner Force will be the final season for RiD?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 21st, 2017 @ 10:09pm CST
We have had no word on how far the show will go. what we do have confirmation on is that Combiner Force is supposed to be coming out within the next month and they have not announced the end of the showJelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Refresh my memory here: has anyone said that Combiner Force will be the final season for RiD?Sabrblade wrote:No such news has been given from anyone official.chuckdawg1999 wrote:The show got canceled?
Posted by Sabrblade on January 21st, 2017 @ 10:09pm CST
All we know of it is what's in the official synopsis.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No such news has been given from anyone official.chuckdawg1999 wrote:The show got canceled?
Refresh my memory here: has anyone said that Combiner Force will be the final season for RiD?
Don't forget how people were previously crying that the skies were falling for season 2 as well.
Posted by Kurona on January 21st, 2017 @ 10:44pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 21st, 2017 @ 11:11pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 21st, 2017 @ 11:28pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 21st, 2017 @ 11:33pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It strikes me as odd how so many like to emphasize the "kids show" nature of RID 2015 when, short of Beast Machines and Prime, every single TF TV cartoon ever made has been just as much, if not moreso, a "kids show" too.
The way i see it, it's harmless fun. Kids = innocence. Innocent fun where you play with the building blocks of the lore.
Adding Combiner force to that makes it really fun, and gives it a chance to have an unbiased audience who simply can enjoy the series no matter what kind of twist happens
Posted by Sabrblade on January 22nd, 2017 @ 7:18am CST
Yeah, but, couldn't the same be said of every other show that's come before (save for the two exceptions I mentioned)?D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It strikes me as odd how so many like to emphasize the "kids show" nature of RID 2015 when, short of Beast Machines and Prime, every single TF TV cartoon ever made has been just as much, if not moreso, a "kids show" too.
The way i see it, it's harmless fun. Kids = innocence. Innocent fun where you play with the building blocks of the lore.
Adding Combiner force to that makes it really fun, and gives it a chance to have an unbiased audience who simply can enjoy the series no matter what kind of twist happens
Posted by Kurona on January 22nd, 2017 @ 7:54am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, but, couldn't the same be said of every other show that's come before (save for the two exceptions I mentioned)?D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It strikes me as odd how so many like to emphasize the "kids show" nature of RID 2015 when, short of Beast Machines and Prime, every single TF TV cartoon ever made has been just as much, if not moreso, a "kids show" too.
The way i see it, it's harmless fun. Kids = innocence. Innocent fun where you play with the building blocks of the lore.
Adding Combiner force to that makes it really fun, and gives it a chance to have an unbiased audience who simply can enjoy the series no matter what kind of twist happens
I think it's more or less the juxtaposition of Prime - the show that came before it and what it's supposed to be a sequel to - one of if not the most serious and dramatic Transformers shows to date with elements like Bisk. Which becomes especially more evident the more TFP elements the show brings in.
When Soundwave came back, I found it very difficult to reconcile him being from the same faction and even same universe as the other Decepticons in the show - each show is going for two very different vibes and feels. Which is fine, but when TFP's audience watches this and knows that this came after TFP... it becomes difficult to see it as anything but 'kiddy'. It's just really difficult to go from Transformers: Prime and see this weird dorky lobster Decepticon making video game puns and giving Bumblebee's team a hard time and believe the two shows belong in the same universe.
When in a vacuum, it's not that much more 'kiddy' or such than a lot of other Transformers shows. But when you bring in the contrast to what it's supposed to be connected to...