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Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime

Transformers News: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime

Saturday, August 20th, 2016 9:08AM CDT

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Fellow Seibertronian RAR has found some new features for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime that were not shown in the instructions. For instance, did you notice those hooks on his legs and ever wonder "what is that doing there?", well fear no more because we have the answer.

RAR wrote:This shows the axe stored on the leg and the launchers combined with the sword.

Transformers News: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime

Also the storage for the Launchers & Axe

Transformers News: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime


Do any of you have this toy yet? How do you find him?
Credit(s): RAR

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Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1816960)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 20th, 2016 @ 9:24am CDT
We already knew about the gun and axe storage in vehicle mode, I wanna see this supposed mega-sword people keep going on about...
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817001)
Posted by RAR on August 20th, 2016 @ 11:35am CDT
I thought it was worth a mention anyway as I was watching some Youtube reviews and people didn't seem to always find where to store the launchers.

He can hold two swords (and the launcher) in one hand like a staff - but not easily - I even tried to jam the axe on there to make it look like a bow but it's pretty loose on the bottom sword and it all falls to pieces if you look at it funny... so not really 100% practical. may also require the fore arm mode to even work.

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Also the screw hole on his backside is compatible with the sword storage too - not much use as it sticks out oddly "But it's a thing - you can do".

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As the large hole in his axe is 5mm and so are the sword handles if you are giving him one sword as a weapon - say with the launcher - then the other one sitting one sides on his back cross wise how has a free 5mm post on it for you to slip the hole on the axe onto.

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Looks a bit like Armada Megatron's Cannon like this - I thought.
So there is actually more than one way to store the axe - other than the leg.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817047)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on August 20th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CDT
I dont understand why hasbro does this, why go through the trouble of designing a feature then not include it in the instructions?
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817049)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 20th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:I dont understand why hasbro does this, why go through the trouble of designing a feature then not include it in the instructions?


Possibly for kids to figure out their own thing, to promote imagination.

Or Hasbro just plain forgot about it, or didn't care about in the first place. Wouldn't be the first time this happened, look at the Titan Master Class' weapon modes.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817076)
Posted by ScottyP on August 20th, 2016 @ 4:23pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:In case people don't know where to go, could you show us all real quick how to find the info on this site for the minicons?

Also, could it because Robots in Disguise is within the Prime section and not on its own?
Man, I feel dumb now for that earlier post. Might be a bug.

More later, but for now, here's RiD's database of characters: http://www.seibertron.com/database/seri ... ies_id=221
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817087)
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2016 @ 4:59pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:I dont understand why hasbro does this, why go through the trouble of designing a feature then not include it in the instructions?


Possibly for kids to figure out their own thing, to promote imagination.

Or Hasbro just plain forgot about it, or didn't care about in the first place. Wouldn't be the first time this happened, look at the Titan Master Class' weapon modes.

The titan master class weapon modes are very well documented in the instructions. A better example would be the extra build a figure energon figures made from the clear platic parts of the first 2 waves of minicons.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817092)
Posted by Kurona on August 20th, 2016 @ 5:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:I dont understand why hasbro does this, why go through the trouble of designing a feature then not include it in the instructions?


Possibly for kids to figure out their own thing, to promote imagination.

Or Hasbro just plain forgot about it, or didn't care about in the first place. Wouldn't be the first time this happened, look at the Titan Master Class' weapon modes.

The titan master class weapon modes are very well documented in the instructions. A better example would be the extra build a figure energon figures made from the clear platic parts of the first 2 waves of minicons.

And CW Bombshell's """"weapon"""" mode.

Let's not forget Takara doesn't want you to know Powerglide, Runabout, Overdrive and Shockwave can be part of certain Unite Warriors sets :lol:
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817116)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 20th, 2016 @ 7:26pm CDT
I've talked about it in my videos, and I plan to REALLY talk about it in my Starscream video, but one of the gimmicks from RID is simplified transformations, that can fit on the back of the card, so parents can look and see how hard it is to transform the figure. The other gimmick is the mobile game. The end result is that ALL the directions have to fit in a relatively small space, on the upper left section of the card, causing steps to be combined or omitted entirely, due to the mobile game requiring instructions and warning being printed in multiple languages.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817118)
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2016 @ 7:55pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've talked about it in my videos, and I plan to REALLY talk about it in my Starscream video, but one of the gimmicks from RID is simplified transformations, that can fit on the back of the card

Simplified transformations, or simplified instructions? Because the warrior toys have more complex transformations than any CW toy.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817130)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 20th, 2016 @ 8:50pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've talked about it in my videos, and I plan to REALLY talk about it in my Starscream video, but one of the gimmicks from RID is simplified transformations, that can fit on the back of the card

Simplified transformations, or simplified instructions? Because the warrior toys have more complex transformations than any CW toy.


As advertised by Hasbro the RID line features simplified Transformations for younger fans, the end result is instructions that have to fit, in a predetermined space on the back of the card. More often than not steps are combined or omitted outright. Some Warrior toys are more complex than a CW deluxe.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817147)
Posted by Kurona on August 20th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CDT
Well, the CW deluxes by definition have to be simplified. They need to pull off four modes, two of which have to fit into an exact height - and it's not like normal deluxes where the robot modes vaguely need to be the same size, the leg modes literally have to be the exact same height or else the whole combiner falls down. Combiners are a gimmick that get in the way of a figure being as complex as it could be; comparing figures that can combine to figures that just have to turn from a vehicle/beast mode to a robot mode is not a fair comparison. At least try and compare them to Thrilling 30 or Titans Return.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817164)
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2016 @ 11:06pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've talked about it in my videos, and I plan to REALLY talk about it in my Starscream video, but one of the gimmicks from RID is simplified transformations, that can fit on the back of the card

Simplified transformations, or simplified instructions? Because the warrior toys have more complex transformations than any CW toy.


As advertised by Hasbro the RID line features simplified Transformations for younger fans, the end result is instructions that have to fit, in a predetermined space on the back of the card. More often than not steps are combined or omitted outright. Some Warrior toys are more complex than a CW deluxe.


I for one am very glad that the simplification was just marketting speech but that the toys ended up being as complex as before. To be honest, the only toys that I feel suffered from wanting to simplify things were the AOE Leaders and Gen Leader Megatron who is far too simple for such a big and expensive toy. But yeah, I get what you are saying now. The toys arent simpler, but since they were advertized as such, they dont want to underdeliver. Too bad :twisted:

PS: here was the actual blurb

Each TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE WARRIORS figure features a character from the all new animated series, TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE, coming to Cartoon Network in 2015. Warrior figures feature classic puzzle play for fans that want the traditional TRANSFORMERS experience. These detailed figures are great for collectors and kids as
they convert from robot to vehicle in 10 steps or less and come with a unique weapon accessory. High articulation means more action play, as fans can pose their figures and play out their favorite battles from the new animated series with GRIMLOCK, BUMBLEBEE, STEELJAW, and STRONGARM. Each sold separately. Take the action to your mobile device.
Download the TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE app to your digital device, then scan the shield to unlock a character or weapons or more!
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817167)
Posted by william-james88 on August 20th, 2016 @ 11:16pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Well, the CW deluxes by definition have to be simplified. They need to pull off four modes, two of which have to fit into an exact height - and it's not like normal deluxes where the robot modes vaguely need to be the same size, the leg modes literally have to be the exact same height or else the whole combiner falls down. Combiners are a gimmick that get in the way of a figure being as complex as it could be; comparing figures that can combine to figures that just have to turn from a vehicle/beast mode to a robot mode is not a fair comparison. At least try and compare them to Thrilling 30 or Titans Return.

Bot CW Dead End and TR Skullsmasher take about 10 steps to transform. Warrior Class Quillfire takes 15 actual steps to transform (when counting each action as a step), making him more complex than any deluxe in the gen line for the past year. Both Gen Tankor and Jihaxus took 9 steps to transform.

With no exageration, the RID warriors are as complex, if not more complex, than any deluxe TF in recent memory.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817200)
Posted by RAR on August 21st, 2016 @ 8:36am CDT
If I put my think like Hasbro head on - I'd say Hasbro see Quillfire as having less than 10 steps. with out checking the actual instructions - excluding the weapon storage it seems like 9 steps (in Hasbro terms).

But the good thing about him is he's not to much a pest to Transform - so he's actually on of my principle GO TO fiddle-formers in recent months for that reason.


One fun observation about Quillfire is if you jam his spare quill in that gap near his rear window - it looks like he's carrying a surfboard.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817334)
Posted by Emerje on August 21st, 2016 @ 8:36pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Well, the CW deluxes by definition have to be simplified. They need to pull off four modes, two of which have to fit into an exact height - and it's not like normal deluxes where the robot modes vaguely need to be the same size, the leg modes literally have to be the exact same height or else the whole combiner falls down. Combiners are a gimmick that get in the way of a figure being as complex as it could be; comparing figures that can combine to figures that just have to turn from a vehicle/beast mode to a robot mode is not a fair comparison. At least try and compare them to Thrilling 30 or Titans Return.


I disagree. I think making them simpler makes it easier to pull off, but not a necessity of being a combiner. I'd say it's a natural expectation for a figure that has to pull off four modes to be a more complex figure than one that turns from one thing to another. There are a number of ways that the current crop of CW figures could have been more complex without effecting the height or length of the limbs. Like adding a locking mechanism to Brawl's torso or find a way to make the arms on the jets less obvious in jet mode or give the cars feet or bring back wrists.

Let's not make excuses for Hasbro here; the CW figures are simpler to cut costs and nothing more. Things haven't been the same since the end of Universe started simplifying figures noticeably and the start of Generations when the entire line shrunk, and then more recently when paint apps have been at a low even within TR. All while raising the MSRP.

Emerje
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817336)
Posted by Kurona on August 21st, 2016 @ 8:42pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
Kurona wrote:Well, the CW deluxes by definition have to be simplified. They need to pull off four modes, two of which have to fit into an exact height - and it's not like normal deluxes where the robot modes vaguely need to be the same size, the leg modes literally have to be the exact same height or else the whole combiner falls down. Combiners are a gimmick that get in the way of a figure being as complex as it could be; comparing figures that can combine to figures that just have to turn from a vehicle/beast mode to a robot mode is not a fair comparison. At least try and compare them to Thrilling 30 or Titans Return.


I disagree. I think making them simpler makes it easier to pull off, but not a necessity of being a combiner. I'd say it's a natural expectation for a figure that has to pull off four modes to be a more complex figure than one that turns from one thing to another. There are a number of ways that the current crop of CW figures could have been more complex without effecting the height or length of the limbs. Like adding a locking mechanism to Brawl's torso or find a way to make the arms on the jets less obvious in jet mode or give the cars feet or bring back wrists.

Let's not make excuses for Hasbro here; the CW figures are simpler to cut costs and nothing more. Things haven't been the same since the end of Universe started simplifying figures noticeably and the start of Generations when the entire line shrunk, and then more recently when paint apps have been at a low even within TR. All while raising the MSRP.

Emerje

I'm not saying that an added gimmick necessitates simplicity; only that a gimmick no matter what it is will be intrusive to the gimmick's design. Due to the necessity to incorporate the gimmick, it takes away from what the figure might have been on it's own. If Brawl didn't have to become a leg and an arm, he very likely would have been a better individual figure.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817372)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 21st, 2016 @ 11:22pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm not saying that an added gimmick necessitates simplicity; only that a gimmick no matter what it is will be intrusive to the gimmick's design. Due to the necessity to incorporate the gimmick, it takes away from what the figure might have been on it's own.
I must respectfully disagree with the notion that all gimmicks are intrusive. The best counterexample to this that I can think of is Voyager class Cybertron Defense Scattorshot from the Cybertron line. That figure has an impressive 12 points of articulation, yet also has a very simplistic transformation of a mere 6 steps. And his Cyber Key gimmick is restricted only to the missile pods on his arms which do not hinder either his articulation or his transformation in any way, and actually adds additional playability to his robot and vehicle modes. What's more is that the missile pods are arguably his most distinguished feature, so even if he didn't have a Cyber Key gimmick I can imagine people would still expect him to have those arm-mounted missile pods anyway since his design pretty much tells us that he's the "missile pod arm guy" much like how G1 Soundwave was the "cassette tape chest guy". That CD Scattorshot toy is a wonderful action figure all on its own, regardless of its gimmick. :D
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817376)
Posted by Emerje on August 21st, 2016 @ 11:43pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm not saying that an added gimmick necessitates simplicity; only that a gimmick no matter what it is will be intrusive to the gimmick's design. Due to the necessity to incorporate the gimmick, it takes away from what the figure might have been on it's own. If Brawl didn't have to become a leg and an arm, he very likely would have been a better individual figure.


The joint in the chests are out of necessity, but that's really it. Any of the figures could have been improved in ways that would have made for better figures, but weren't. Brawl could have had a lock in his torso that swings down in front to both keep it in place and give him an actual abdomen. Some of the figures don't have jointed feet for no real reason while others did. The Hound mold could have had a better alt mode if it had better arms that could hide the hands. There's a bunch of things that could have been fixed or improved if they were willing to make them just a little more complex, much of it not even changing the transformations.

Emerje
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817388)
Posted by RAR on August 22nd, 2016 @ 4:10am CDT
Yes Hound is a good example - rotating wrists would have helped a lot there in hiding the hands. Some CW toys do have ankle tilts though which is nice.

This really isn't the place to be discussing this but I wonder if CW toys are compromising the toy less than the Energon Autobots did with their toys?

So to move the topic back on to RID while keeping the spirit of the conversation alive I will note that there is perhaps an argument to be made that something like 3-Step Changer Grimlock could have had some knee joints in the dinosaur mode and some movable distinct hands with out compromising the simplicity of the Transformation.

I was actually thinking about this the other day when I was coming home from having bought said Grimlock at a Carbootsale and what entered my head was G2 - that was an era where you had reasonable levels of Articulation on many toys but also Transformation that typically wouldn't be taxing even for younger kids.

So what is wrong with some thing like the Laser Rods / Illuminators these days the kids would still have no issues with them but they are still in theory at least a good action figure too (QC & rubber band hips aside).

Universe Cyclonus isn't terribly complex toy but he's pretty well regarded anyway. Universe Hound is also not terribly complex but pretty fun to play with.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817450)
Posted by william-james88 on August 22nd, 2016 @ 12:42pm CDT
I didnt know I would start such a discussion, and thats fine. I just wanted to point out that the RID warriors are not simpler than delue toys of the past years.
While that is good for me (and us that tried these toys out) I find it too bad that Hasbro advertized it as such and fans got primed with the idea that this line was simpler (when in reality it is as complex/simple as combiner wars or TR or generations in general).
In the end, like RAR said, they were just talking to the parents and trying to reassure them. But it was all just talk.

Also, the third party combiners clearly show that a toy with several molds can be quite complex. Not saying thats better though, but complexity doesnt seem to have anything to do with the amount of modes.

Also, one thing I wanted to point out. From looking at my toysrus, it seems Hasbro is right about autobots, especially Optimus, being more wanted than decepticons. I love this year for RID toys due to all the decepticons, and Hasbro even short packs autobots. But its not working out well. Right now, my TRU is fuly stocked on Starscream, has some Paralon and not one Warrior Optimus in sight. I haveno clue where all those optimus toys are going since every kid must have one by now, but they realy flew off the shelves. Unlike the decepticons.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817599)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 22nd, 2016 @ 6:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Also, one thing I wanted to point out. From looking at my toysrus, it seems Hasbro is right about autobots, especially Optimus, being more wanted than decepticons. I love this year for RID toys due to all the decepticons, and Hasbro even short packs autobots. But its not working out well. Right now, my TRU is fuly stocked on Starscream, has some Paralon and not one Warrior Optimus in sight. I haveno clue where all those optimus toys are going since every kid must have one by now, but they realy flew off the shelves. Unlike the decepticons.

yeah, which is quite a shame considering there have been some awesome Decepticon molds in the line. I really have enjoyed them
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817645)
Posted by ScottyP on August 22nd, 2016 @ 9:24pm CDT
Brofist to Sabrblade for the CD Scattorshot mention. Recently got the Galaxy Force version and was reminded how great that toy is.

Speaking of variants, I grabbed that RiD Mini-con 15 pack. Aside from not having the clear pieces (I suspect this is probably a Costco/Sams Club type exclusive?), here's a breakdown of the differences in the toys from their earlier versions, where I can ID them:
  • Windstrike: additional silver paint app on chest
  • Tricerashot: unsure since regular version not yet released, but I think the silver paint on the snout is unique to this pack's version.
  • Bashbreaker: See Tricerashot; new paint is on hammer/forearms
  • Lord Doomitron: See Tricerashot except I don't know the difference. Maybe the silver teeth paint?
  • Undertone: similar deco to Scorch Strike Undertone, only completely different. Metallic orange & rust colored limbs vs tan with copper colored limbs, plus completely different eye, face, and torso paint. Scans into app as regular white Undertone.
  • Anvil: Off blue legs instead of black, silver chest paint instead of black, additional red paint app on shoulders, and eyes painted with less red to give some silver outline making Anvil look a bit more cunning.
  • Forth: Actually called this. Your single packed one may have come in a package saying this, or Back. This pack's version has additional silver paint on the fingers, and the face looks bloated. That mold didn't last long.
  • Hammer: New silver paint on beak and blue paint on tail. Wings have blue paint instead of black.
  • Sandsting: Slightly deeper purple, additional silver paint app on stinger (watch out for the stinger), and that's it for this one.
  • Ratbat: there's always one disappointment. One tiny new red paint app on the, uh, bat pectorals? Upper wing segments? Whatever.
  • Swelter: Additional yellow paint apps on arms, slightly deeper yellow plastic but YMMV as yellow toys are notorious for different runs from the factory having minor, unintended, arbitrary differences in shade.
  • Divebomb: Additional silver paint apps on chest and head/face. Small but really nice improvement. Not TAV nice, but still a cool touch regardless.
  • Beastbox: Additional silver paint apps on shoulder gun looking things. Plastic also more similar to TAV campaign release than original US release.
  • Velocirazor: Additional silver paint apps on claws. Would be as lame as Ratbat except dude, claws.
  • Sawback: Additional silver paint apps on body. Eye color may have been changed to green, if it wasn't all along. Paint on my single packed release is so thin that I can't tell if it's yellow or green.

Additionally, they're all done up in just barely metallic plastic. This isn't new to some of them but it is to many, or at least, it's more noticeable on these in good lighting.

Just wanted to get this out there in case this is actually a weird canceled thing or something, and you're paranoid like me and want to track it down. I can't promise pictures anytime soon but if there's anything you wanna see maybe this weekend I can do some camera stuff.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817683)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 2:09am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Brofist to Sabrblade for the CD Scattorshot mention. Recently got the Galaxy Force version and was reminded how great that toy is.

Speaking of variants, I grabbed that RiD Mini-con 15 pack. Aside from not having the clear pieces (I suspect this is probably a Costco/Sams Club type exclusive?), here's a breakdown of the differences in the toys from their earlier versions, where I can ID them:
  • Windstrike: additional silver paint app on chest
  • Tricerashot: unsure since regular version not yet released, but I think the silver paint on the snout is unique to this pack's version.
  • Bashbreaker: See Tricerashot; new paint is on hammer/forearms
  • Lord Doomitron: See Tricerashot except I don't know the difference. Maybe the silver teeth paint?
  • Undertone: similar deco to Scorch Strike Undertone, only completely different. Metallic orange & rust colored limbs vs tan with copper colored limbs, plus completely different eye, face, and torso paint. Scans into app as regular white Undertone.
  • Anvil: Off blue legs instead of black, silver chest paint instead of black, additional red paint app on shoulders, and eyes painted with less red to give some silver outline making Anvil look a bit more cunning.
  • Forth: Actually called this. Your single packed one may have come in a package saying this, or Back. This pack's version has additional silver paint on the fingers, and the face looks bloated. That mold didn't last long.
  • Hammer: New silver paint on beak and blue paint on tail. Wings have blue paint instead of black.
  • Sandsting: Slightly deeper purple, additional silver paint app on stinger (watch out for the stinger), and that's it for this one.
  • Ratbat: there's always one disappointment. One tiny new red paint app on the, uh, bat pectorals? Upper wing segments? Whatever.
  • Swelter: Additional yellow paint apps on arms, slightly deeper yellow plastic but YMMV as yellow toys are notorious for different runs from the factory having minor, unintended, arbitrary differences in shade.
  • Divebomb: Additional silver paint apps on chest and head/face. Small but really nice improvement. Not TAV nice, but still a cool touch regardless.
  • Beastbox: Additional silver paint apps on shoulder gun looking things. Plastic also more similar to TAV campaign release than original US release.
  • Velocirazor: Additional silver paint apps on claws. Would be as lame as Ratbat except dude, claws.
  • Sawback: Additional silver paint apps on body. Eye color may have been changed to green, if it wasn't all along. Paint on my single packed release is so thin that I can't tell if it's yellow or green.

Additionally, they're all done up in just barely metallic plastic. This isn't new to some of them but it is to many, or at least, it's more noticeable on these in good lighting.

Just wanted to get this out there in case this is actually a weird canceled thing or something, and you're paranoid like me and want to track it down. I can't promise pictures anytime soon but if there's anything you wanna see maybe this weekend I can do some camera stuff.


Here's Tricerashot if you want to compare

Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817688)
Posted by RAR on August 23rd, 2016 @ 3:02am CDT
I suppose when I'm buying if I was looking I'd look for Decepticon Warrior class 1st - especially new moulds, then any version of a desirable character like Optimus or Starscream, then any new mould in general who ever it is.
Lastly the likes of random Grimlock/Bumblebee repaint get shunted lower down the list.

I don't usually buy 3 Step Changers at all (except 2nd hand) - Though I do usually buy 1 steps as they are often only £5.00 each - I would happily buy Minicons but no one actually sell the things around here.

I'd like to buy more Rescue Bots toys too - but the main place to buy them is a long way away from here - Hopefully Hasbro UK will release all the carded pets sometime in the UK (including the rare blue lion)
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817843)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 2:46pm CDT
We have some Robots in Disguise Starscream related news for you today. The warrior class Toysrus exclusive is now available online for the nice price of $ 14.99 USD (free shipping at $19). This is great news since it being an exclusive means that people looking for a deal would not have been able to price match.
Also Starscream related, the Power Surge Starscream is available on toysrus.ca for $37.47 CAD ($30 USD)

Both of these listings finally give us official stock images of these toys which you can find below. If you want to see an in depth pictorial review of the warrior Starscream, we have one for you here.

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Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817860)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 23rd, 2016 @ 3:50pm CDT
I am so going hunting Friday
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Posted by grimlockprime108 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 3:58pm CDT
Got mine ordered
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817940)
Posted by RAR on August 23rd, 2016 @ 7:07pm CDT


Chuck is of the opinion that Starscream's instructions are the worst he's seen in 30 years... so I'll be interested to hear you folks opinions on that point when you have a Starscream in hand yourself.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1817943)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 7:16pm CDT
RAR wrote:Chuck is of the opinion that Starscream's instructions are the worst he's seen in 30 years... so I'll be interested to hear you folks opinions on that point when you have a Starscream in hand yourself.


Even as a kid I never used instructions. Most toys I got back in the day wre second hand and so I developed a love for trying to figure it out on my own.

The instructions being on the box mean they will be thrown out so most kids will have to figure it out anyway, its not hard.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818000)
Posted by MrGameAndToy on August 23rd, 2016 @ 10:29pm CDT
RAR wrote:
Chuck is of the opinion that Starscream's instructions are the worst he's seen in 30 years... so I'll be interested to hear you folks opinions on that point when you have a Starscream in hand yourself.


Being Canadian, Starscream was released here about a month ago. I can say those instructions are horrifyingly bad. But I never look at them until after I've transformed the figure both ways at least once.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818213)
Posted by ScottyP on August 24th, 2016 @ 10:41am CDT
RAR wrote:
Chuck is of the opinion that Starscream's instructions are the worst he's seen in 30 years... so I'll be interested to hear you folks opinions on that point when you have a Starscream in hand yourself.
I mostly didn't need them but the one time I did to verify I wasn't about to break something, they were fine. Card back is in the garbage now, but I'd humbly disagree that the instructions are the Worst Thing Ever. Heck, there are lines with instructions that can barely even be seen! And let's not even get started on the nightmare fuel that some third party instructions are.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818285)
Posted by RAR on August 24th, 2016 @ 12:52pm CDT
I wasn't terribly impressed with Maketoys version of Inferno's instructions, or most Fansprojects instructions either - Like when they made the same leaflet for 3 toys and didn't even properly label the differences.

As for Hasbro one - I think when you have hook tabs that have to be unslotted not pulled apart bad instructions are a disaster waiting to happen - I don't much like the force required to tab some thing together either - combine that with poor instructions I get a bit concerned that some kids might have day 1 breakages.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818758)
Posted by shajaki on August 25th, 2016 @ 11:33pm CDT
Found tonight at a Canadian ToysRus (in Edmonton Alberta) was the Transformers Robots in Disguise: Decepticon Island Showdown Set ($59.99 CAD), and its been purchased and opened up for your viewing pleasure! It comes with two Warrior Class figures, Bumblebee and Steeljaw, whom are unfortunately no different than when the line first debuted. What makes this set unique however is a slew of weapons, and a Stasis Pod. This Stasis Pod is hauntingly familiar with the CR Chambers seen in the classic Beast Wars animated series. It opens and closes book style, the window opens from the top, and can likely fit most Deluxe/Warrior sized figures. See the set below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

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Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818759)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 25th, 2016 @ 11:41pm CDT
Awww, it does look like the Axalons healing unit :lol:
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818760)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 25th, 2016 @ 11:41pm CDT
FYI Power Surge Starscream is in stock on the US version of the Toys R Us Web site.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818761)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 26th, 2016 @ 12:30am CDT
I still really want that stasis pod
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818767)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 26th, 2016 @ 12:53am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I still really want that stasis pod


I'd go for the pods and weapons, but NOT those figures.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818779)
Posted by Kurona on August 26th, 2016 @ 3:16am CDT
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Well great, now I need this lmao
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818794)
Posted by RAR on August 26th, 2016 @ 4:49am CDT
Looks like a Bionicle Tub to me.

But yeah I guess you could use it as a stand in Cybertonian Restoration Chamber too.

A real shame they didn't use the Japanese Bumblebee mould though.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818840)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 26th, 2016 @ 9:09am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I still really want that stasis pod

I'd go for the pods and weapons, but NOT those figures.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to wait it out, see if I can get it any cheaper somehow
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818843)
Posted by william-james88 on August 26th, 2016 @ 9:18am CDT
shajaki wrote:It comes with two Warrior Class figures, Bumblebee and Steeljaw, whom are unfortunately no different than when the line first debuted.

This might bring you a bit of comfort but there is a slight difference, the plastic has changed. You know how the initial ones had this sparkly plastic with a slight metallic sheen? Scotty said that the plastic here is more of the matte kind which doesnt have that extra sparkle.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818855)
Posted by SureShot18 on August 26th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT
In case anyone is wondering don't know if it has been said before but this is $39.99 in the US. And seeing the similarities between this pod and the CR Chamber make me kinda want it.
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818871)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 26th, 2016 @ 10:40am CDT
SureShot18 wrote:In case anyone is wondering don't know if it has been said before but this is $39.99 in the US. And seeing the similarities between this pod and the CR Chamber make me kinda want it.

It had been mentioned but I am glad that it's brought up again. Essentially, the pod and weapons come to $10 considering the $14.99 price of the warriors, or if you go by the $16.99 price they are only $6.

Either way, I like it. Though what I'd do with the extra Bee and Steeljaw remains a mystery
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1818878)
Posted by camzilla51 on August 26th, 2016 @ 10:48am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Awww, it does look like the Axalons healing unit :lol:

Oh my heart! I need one! :lol: :x :MAXIMAL:

Here's hoping we can find enough of these on eBay or something from people who wanna toss them. Fingers crossed
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819132)
Posted by shauyaun on August 27th, 2016 @ 5:34am CDT
I found them at 416 Southbridge St, Auburn, MA 01501
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For 39.99$
And the TRU of exclusive starscream
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Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819224)
Posted by ScottyP on August 27th, 2016 @ 11:59am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:It comes with two Warrior Class figures, Bumblebee and Steeljaw, whom are unfortunately no different than when the line first debuted.

This might bring you a bit of comfort but there is a slight difference, the plastic has changed. You know how the initial ones had this sparkly plastic with a slight metallic sheen? Scotty said that the plastic here is more of the matte kind which doesnt have that extra sparkle.
Yeah there's a super minor difference in these dudes. They've got some sparkle, but not as much as the first release. From two pages of thread ago:

ScottyP wrote:On another topic, speaking of the Decepticon Island Showdown set, not sure it's been pointed out that Bumblebee and Steeljaw are a little different. By "a little different" I mean there is one teeny-tiny difference: the smooth silver plastic with clearly visible metallic flake mixed in from the initial Warrior Class releases of the toys has been replaced in this set by a much grayer, matte silver. It's actually more noticeable from far away then up close if you just glance at the toys. Not a big thing but still, at least there was something a little new outside of the cool accessories!
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819476)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 28th, 2016 @ 10:41am CDT
Fellow Seibertronians, while it's been available for a little while now, we are now bringing you a friendly heads-up that the new Transformers Robots in Disguise Sideswipe and Windstrike Battle Pack is now available on Amazon, it's also possible that it has made it's way to other retailers as well. So take a minute to check out the images of it below to refresh yourself on this figure, and be sure to let us know if you are planning on picking this figure up, or have seen it already.

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Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819482)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 28th, 2016 @ 11:08am CDT
Is Windstrike a remold of Lancelon (or other way around) or is it a new mold?
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819576)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 28th, 2016 @ 6:06pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Is Windstrike a remold of Lancelon (or other way around) or is it a new mold?


It's safe to say some RiD Mini-Cons reuse transformations without being retools. Seems to happen a lot these days...
Re: Undocumented Features Found for Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime (1819584)
Posted by william-james88 on August 28th, 2016 @ 7:08pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Is Windstrike a remold of Lancelon (or other way around) or is it a new mold?


It's safe to say some RiD Mini-Cons reuse transformations without being retools. Seems to happen a lot these days...


Been happening since G1. Just look at the throttlebots.

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