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Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron

Transformers News: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron

Tuesday, August 30th, 2016 8:18AM CDT

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Fellow Seibertronian Optibotimus has a big review for us where he looks at the entirety of Unite Warriors Computron and compares each member to its Hasbro counterpart, along with comparisons to animation models and the G1 toys. Enjoy!



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Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1819996)
Posted by rockman_fan on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:31am CDT
basically, buy both and mix and match. i'm sure has/tak didn't plan this at all, and it's just total coincidence that they want you to buy both. :HEADHURTS:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1819997)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:32am CDT
rockman_fan wrote:basically, buy both and mix and match. i'm sure has/tak didn't plan this at all, and it's just total coincidence that they want you to buy both. :HEADHURTS:

Its not a conspiracy theory dude.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820000)
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
rockman_fan wrote:basically, buy both and mix and match. i'm sure has/tak didn't plan this at all, and it's just total coincidence that they want you to buy both. :HEADHURTS:

Its not a conspiracy theory dude.


..or is it? :-$

(It's not.)
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820007)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:59am CDT
No its not a conspiracy, but back to the whole lack of cooperation thing. In this day and age when adult fans clearly have access to Takara product, Hasbro developers cant exactly be feeling good, or proud of their work when their sister company does things so much better. If Hasbro is content to produce an inferior product because of cost-to-produce limitations, I think Hasbro needs to fire some people, or just let Takara do all the developing, and Hasbro just releases the toys for the markets they have rights to.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820009)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:01am CDT
o.supreme wrote:No its not a conspiracy, but back to the whole lack of cooperation thing. In this day and age when adult fans clearly have access to Takara product, Hasbro developers cant exactly be feeling good, or proud of their work when their sister company does things so much better. If Hasbro is content to produce an inferior product because of cost-to-produce limitations, I think Hasbro needs to fire some people, or just let Takara do all the developing, and Hasbro just releases the toys for the markets they have rights to.

Doesn't that assume Hasbro's target audience is the adult collector? I'd think that Hasbro keeps us in mind, but the target audience is still children....
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820010)
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
I catched that review yesterday evening before going to bed. It somehow made me less excited for UW Computron. Anyhow, I don't see what is all the big fuss about the new feets/hands. I'm quite happy with the ones we got with the other sets and I thinks it will look better if all my combiner teams have the same sets of feets/hands on my shelf. But again, I know it's all about personnal preferences at this point. ;)
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820011)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT
o.supreme wrote: If Hasbro is content to produce an inferior product because of cost-to-produce limitations, I think Hasbro needs to fire some people, or just let Takara do all the developing, and Hasbro just releases the toys for the markets they have rights to.


I can guarantee you one thing: Hasbro is content with their CW toys

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Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820012)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
Agamemnon wrote: I'd think that Hasbro keeps us in mind, but the target audience is still children....

But so is Takara's audience, they keep saying that time and time again. Both sell for the same price point in either country anyway so its not like either is a higher end collectable.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820013)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:06am CDT
Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820019)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:10am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote: I'd think that Hasbro keeps us in mind, but the target audience is still children....

But so is Takara's audience, they keep saying that time and time again. Both sell for the same price point in either country anyway so its not like either is a higher end collectable.


Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.


Indeed, I can see that both are true. And also, it appears that Takara has very different corporate goals and toy laws to deal with. It is a complicated situation, and I don't think we can compare Hasbro and Takara apples to apples. It bothers me a little to see the hyperbole that someone should get fired because of something completely out of their control...
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820020)
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:10am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.


I'm not sure that this particular 'obsession' isn't a good thing. As an adult collector, I really do appreciate it. But even as a child today, wouldn't you want your RID figurs to have paint jobs and details as close as possible to the show version?s I'm pretty sure I would appreciate it even if I wouldn't care about it as much. :-?
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820022)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Doesn't that assume Hasbro's target audience is the adult collector? I'd think that Hasbro keeps us in mind, but the target audience is still children....


I would think the target audience for Rescue Bots would be Young Children, and for RID would be the 8-12 year range, but obviously Generations is for older fans. Unless you had a parent or older relative who was into Transformers you would have no idea who these characters are because they have no current representation on TV.

william-james88 wrote:I can guarantee you one thing: Hasbro is content with their CW toys


I'm not talking about the line overall...but specific examples....and of course in public its going to be all smiles..

But suppose The Technobots/Computron was "your" baby...you spent a year or so developing them..put all your heart and soul into it...No doubt *if* Takara & Hasbro were at all communicating as some people believe...and you would no doubt have seen Takara's proposal long before the public did...how would you feel? :-?
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820025)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:15am CDT
Ultra Mad wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.


I'm not sure that this particular 'obsession' isn't a good thing. As an adult collector, I really do appreciate it. But even as a child today, wouldn't you want your RID figurs to have paint jobs and details as close as possible to the show version?s I'm pretty sure I would appreciate it even if I wouldn't care about it as much. :-?
Of course, but we weren't talking about the RID figures' decos. The differences between UW Computron and CW Computron were the subject in question.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820026)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:15am CDT
My 10 year old son loves the CW line! :WHISTLE:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820027)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:15am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I would think the target audience for Rescue Bots would be Young Children, and for RID would be the 8-12 year range, but obviously Generations is for older fans. Unless you had a parent or older relative who was into Transformers you would have no idea who these characters are because they have no current representation on TV.

Just because there's no fictional representation doesn't mean the main target audience isn't kids. They're sold on the merit of them being good toys and nothing else.
It's true that the Generations line is heavily geared towards older collectors, hence the characters and designs they use, but it's more like they're able to make and sell these toys with the excuse that it'll still appeal to kids. If it was mainly older collectors buying them I doubt it'd be viable for Hasbro.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820031)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:21am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:My 10 year old son loves the CW line! :WHISTLE:


so does my 10 year old son...and probably any kid who's father is a fan and had been indoctrinating them since birth... 8-) ...

But what about all the kids whose dads are not fans like us? ...they are into their *whatever kids play with these days*....if they have any interest in Transformers at all, it would be RiD.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820033)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:24am CDT
o.supreme wrote:But suppose The Technobots/Computron was "your" baby...you spent a year or so developing them..put all your heart and soul into it...No doubt *if* Takara & Hasbro were at all communicating as some people believe...and you would no doubt have seen Takara's proposal long before the public did...how would you feel? :-?

They answered that already, and it wasnt all smiles, just straightforward business. They saw what Takara was planning and just went another way, I dont know why we are thinking there is more to it and we dont need to speculate, they say it all right there, just go to the 3:08 minute mark. They also didnt spend too long developing them since they werent even planning on doing them in the first place.




Also, Hasbro made it quite clear who the audience for Generations toys were: 10 and up

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Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820034)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:24am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:My 10 year old son loves the CW line! :WHISTLE:


so does my 10 year old son...and probably any kid who's father is a fan and had been indoctrinating them since birth... 8-) ...

But what about all the kids whose dads are not fans like us? ...they are into their *whatever kids play with these days*....if they have any interest in Transformers at all, it would be RiD.

That's kind of a bold statement. Sure, the half hour commercials are on TV for that. But, really, I see kids all the time in Target, etc. picking out RiD, CW, TR, the old Generations stuff. Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.

[Edit] Sniped by WJ88. ;)
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820035)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:26am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

Personally, when it comes to G1 Classics stuff, I just want a quality, accurate, fun toy of the cartoon incarnation before they do reinventions of the character. In the case of Computron, now that we have the Unite Warriors box set, which is all three of those things, I'm fine with them doing re-imaginings of the Technobots (such as the CW box set).

Another example...Fortress Maximus. If we had gotten a Titan-sized Fort Max, that was, in terms of appearance, accurate to the cartoon(s), and in terms of engineering, basically the G1 toy with more articulation (and with all of his accessories), I would've been totally fine with the Titans Return toy (I still have that one on my shelf, mind you, but I'm getting all the upgrade kits, and I'm still a bit disappointed with it).

...does that make sense? I'm terrible at explaining things like this... :HEADHURTS:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820038)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:29am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820040)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:31am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .

Jhiaxus is cool looking. The look would be enough for any kid!

Rattrap? Grandma would never touch that toy. Ever! :lol:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820042)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:35am CDT
Yeah, again, this assumes that the kids and their parents are that into Transformers fiction that they only care about the characters they saw on-screen. They're more likely to focus on those characters - the toy shelves that can't get enough of Optimus and Bumblebee show this alone - but it doesn't mean they won't be happy to get any transformer that's cool to them. And on the other hand, a lot of parents don't really know much about Transformers beyond "my kid really likes that Mega Optimus Bee guy. Hey, this looks like one of them transfarmers, he'll love that!"
Heck, the Cybertron and ROTF lines were full of characters that didn't have any fictional representation despite Cybertron and ROTF actually having fiction. Didn't stop peeps from buying them.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820043)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:36am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .

I was given beast machines Tankor from my grandma when I was 10 and he looked nothing like anything I knew even if i was watching the show. But I liked transformers and just played with it and enjoyed it. Same goes for all those Beast Wars toys that never appeared on the show.

Also your comment just dissed a ton of G1 toys that never appeared on the show. And yet kids loved em enough that we are now getting them redone for a new generations.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820046)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:39am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .

I was given beast machines Tankor from my grandma when I was 10 and he looked nothing like anything I knew even if i was watching the show. But I liked transformers and just played with it and enjoyed it. Same goes for all those Beast Wars toys that never appeared on the show.

Also your comment just dissed a ton of G1 toys that never appeared on the show. And yet kids loved em enough that we are now getting them redone for a new generations.

To be fair, a lot of those toys ended up appearing in the Marvel comics instead like the wreckers. I think the only ones that never got fictional representation - before the cartoon ended - were the deluxe Insecticons, the Omnibots and the Powerdashers... and I certainly don't see them getting remade any time soon, bar the odd occasional Chop Shop because what else do you repaint Shrapnel into
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820047)
Posted by Autobot N on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:40am CDT
I'm hopefully going to try and get UW Computron around Christmas, and then I can mix-and-match to create the perfect Computron:
Scattershot: UW
Strafe: CW
Nosecone: UW
Lightspeed: CW
Afterburer: CW
Scrounge&Cybaxx: CW

Since UW Strafe looks amazing on his own, he'll go to the centerpiece display. CW Brawlcone will go to the extra figures bin, CW Scattershot will either go there or replace the retail Scattershot on my Betatron, and I don't know what I'll do with UW Lightspeed and Afterburner.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820048)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:43am CDT
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .

I was given beast machines Tankor from my grandma when I was 10 and he looked nothing like anything I knew even if i was watching the show. But I liked transformers and just played with it and enjoyed it. Same goes for all those Beast Wars toys that never appeared on the show.

Also your comment just dissed a ton of G1 toys that never appeared on the show. And yet kids loved em enough that we are now getting them redone for a new generations.

To be fair, a lot of those toys ended up appearing in the Marvel comics instead like the wreckers. I think the only ones that never got fictional representation - before the cartoon ended - were the deluxe Insecticons, the Omnibots and the Powerdashers... and I certainly don't see them getting remade any time soon, bar the odd occasional Chop Shop because what else do you repaint Shrapnel into


But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?

The point is you dont need media to sell a specific toy once a kid knows the brand.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820052)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Not everything Generations being sold at the stores is going to older collectors. There is a healthy mix of both, but I would still maintain that these lines are more intended for children.


I'd love to see the look on the 8 year olds face who's Grandma just got him Generations Rattrap or Jhiaxus as a gift...has no idea who or what it is :lol: .

I was given beast machines Tankor from my grandma when I was 10 and he looked nothing like anything I knew even if i was watching the show. But I liked transformers and just played with it and enjoyed it. Same goes for all those Beast Wars toys that never appeared on the show.

Also your comment just dissed a ton of G1 toys that never appeared on the show. And yet kids loved em enough that we are now getting them redone for a new generations.

To be fair, a lot of those toys ended up appearing in the Marvel comics instead like the wreckers. I think the only ones that never got fictional representation - before the cartoon ended - were the deluxe Insecticons, the Omnibots and the Powerdashers... and I certainly don't see them getting remade any time soon, bar the odd occasional Chop Shop because what else do you repaint Shrapnel into


But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?

The point is you dont need media to sell a specific toy once a kid knows the brand.

This is true, and I agree with you - after all, I have been saying that the whole time.

Just saying that the only ones that didn't get fictional representation at the time are the ones no-one really remembers. I think people remember a random pretender before remembering Camshaft was a guy that exists.

And, well... there certainly must have been some fanbase for the Marvel comics. They were able to run well past the cartoon - into 1990 - it's original 4-issue miniseries was enough to prompt a whole series, it was apparently one of the most popular comics with kids at the time, and there's a whole slew of Marvel-exclusive characters - whether they have basis in toy or not - that we remember and love from just the Marvel stories like Impactor, Scrounge, Bludgeon, Thunderwing and Straxus. All of which have later gotten official toys.

So yeah, while not as well known as the cartoon, I'd say there's definitely some proof to it's popularity.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820053)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?


Nope, that was me too. (That's why Frenzy is red and Rumble is blue. *ducks*) I didn't get into comics until well after the Marvel TF run ended.

And ultimately, I got into Transformers because it was a really cool toy! Sure the show influenced my desire to get some of the toys, but most of my desire was because of what my friends had. And I would spend my allowance money on whatever was available in the store. My son does the same thing, regardless of the media. (In fact, we have had so much trouble catching the new RiD show on the tube that neither he nor I even know what is going on in the show. I just like the way some of the toys look, working them into my Classics/Generations head canon...)

So, to bring this back around, I think Hasbro is doing a decent enough job these days making toys that appeal to both my son and me. But, I like that I can use my 40-something year old disposable income on some cooler looking stuff from Takara from time to time. (UW Computron will me mine. Oh, yes....)

(I just wish the prices weren't getting so up there....)
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820054)
Posted by william-james88 on August 30th, 2016 @ 11:00am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:So, to bring this back around, I think Hasbro is doing a decent enough job these days making toys that appeal to both my son and me. But, I like that I can use my 40-something year old disposable income on some cooler looking stuff from Takara from time to time. (UW Computron will me mine. Oh, yes....)

He will be mine too, I cant wait (he's on his way now, but wont be here for another 2 weeks or so).

Oh and Ag, while i have you here, this pic I found made me think of you.

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Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820056)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 11:07am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:So, to bring this back around, I think Hasbro is doing a decent enough job these days making toys that appeal to both my son and me. But, I like that I can use my 40-something year old disposable income on some cooler looking stuff from Takara from time to time. (UW Computron will me mine. Oh, yes....)

He will be mine too, I cant wait (he's on his way now, but wont be here for another 2 weeks or so).

Oh and Ag, while i have you here, this pic I found made me think of you.

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Gee, why would you think that? :-s

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Shoot...I need those eyes!! Takara, get on that!! :lol:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820071)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 12:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Also your comment just dissed a ton of G1 toys that never appeared on the show. And yet kids loved em enough that we are now getting them redone for a new generations.


True story--My first TF toy was Twin Twist. Always hoped he would show up in the animated series...never did...I thought he sucked.

A friend of mine had Whirl...he put him on a barbecue pit to watch it melt...I'm not saying this was smart by any means...But I think years later we forget how lackluster non-show characters are, because as adults we can appreciate them more, and because of their lack of media exposure...we in some ways want them more.

My favorite BW toys were Magnaboss & Tripredacus, they never appeared in the BW show, but I was an adult when this series came out, so I really didn't care. As a kid, I would have totally felt ripped-off that they didn't appear in the BW series.

--just to clarify, as an adult I think most TF toys are pretty cool. The design of deluxe insecticons, RB & Whirl, etc... But I'm pretty sure if you were to ask Hasbro, toys that represent characters as soon on TV sell much better than those that don't. In fact I'm sure they produce those toys in higher quantities in anticipation of it.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820075)
Posted by o.supreme on August 30th, 2016 @ 12:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?


The first comic I ever saw was issue #5, the first one I purchased was #9, then after a long absence I became regular with #25, and got all the back issues. But I spent pretty much the whole 3-4 years complaining, and even wrote letters to Marvel Comics why they didn't portray the characters correctly (i.e. the way the cartoon did) no wonder none of my letters ever appeared in Transmissions :lol: .
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820086)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 30th, 2016 @ 1:41pm CDT
I also don't see the oopla with the new hands and feet. The feet for Victorion don't do too well for me, so I can get over it, and I prefer the HFG anyway
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820089)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 30th, 2016 @ 1:55pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I also don't see the oopla with the new hands and feet. The feet for Victorion don't do too well for me, so I can get over it, and I prefer the HFG anyway

I prefer wider feet for combiners with wider legs (like the cars, or tanks) the hfg's proportions look way off :HEADHURTS:

Plus ankle-tilts seem really helpful ;)^
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820091)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on August 30th, 2016 @ 2:05pm CDT
got my Computron today. Really like this guy. Strafe, Nosecone and Afterburner are wonderful retools and its nice to finally get to play with the Blast-Off mold. Lightspeed looks great with the Wheeljack mold and I love that red. Scattershot is done very well, really fond of the retooling he got. Awesome set
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820096)
Posted by Agamemnon on August 30th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CDT
UW Computron just hit my POL at BBTS. :DANCE: Waiting one week to see if TR Soundwave hits...
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820109)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 30th, 2016 @ 3:34pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:But what about all the kids whose dads are not fans like us? ...they are into their *whatever kids play with these days*....if they have any interest in Transformers at all, it would be RiD.
Or, if they're into Power Rangers, they could take notice of these CW toys and think, "Hey, these Transformers things combine into bigger ones like Megazords! I want 'em!" and get into them that way. ;)

Sigma Magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

Personally, when it comes to G1 Classics stuff, I just want a quality, accurate, fun toy of the cartoon incarnation before they do reinventions of the character. In the case of Computron, now that we have the Unite Warriors box set, which is all three of those things, I'm fine with them doing re-imaginings of the Technobots (such as the CW box set).

Another example...Fortress Maximus. If we had gotten a Titan-sized Fort Max, that was, in terms of appearance, accurate to the cartoon(s), and in terms of engineering, basically the G1 toy with more articulation (and with all of his accessories), I would've been totally fine with the Titans Return toy (I still have that one on my shelf, mind you, but I'm getting all the upgrade kits, and I'm still a bit disappointed with it).

...does that make sense? I'm terrible at explaining things like this... :HEADHURTS:
No, I get ya. I too want what I saw on TV/in comics/in movies/in video games/etc. first and foremost, and then the reimagined designs to come later. It's just that it seems that the MP line is primarily where the fiction-accuracy stuff comes out the most, which makes for a pricey endeavor in acquiring the closest matches to what we see in the fiction in toy form. When the Classics line first came out in 2006, I willfully skipped the majority of the line since, at the time, my reasons for skipping those figures was "They don't look enough like the characters they're meant to represent." And the 1980s G1 toys also looked too different from the fiction, so I didn't want those either. It wasn't until we got more fiction-based sculpts in the subsequent Classics-style lines that I started collecting more of those kinds of figures.

But even with that personal preference of mine, Hasbro doesn't seem to share it and prefer instead to do newer and reimagined takes on the characters instead, which from a business standpoint is perfectly understandable. But Takara, however, resides in a culture that is very reverent of the past and is of a mindset that their products must be as respective to the source material as possible, regardless of how inaccurate the Hasbro-designed molds are sculpted (i.e. - Takara slapped a G1 cartoon-based deco on an IDW-based Springer mold). This is where Hasbro and Takara differ, with Hasbro looking towards innovation and newness, while Takara looks towards replication and faithfulness.

william-james88 wrote:But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?
In America, the show might have been the more popular of the two, but in the UK, the comics (according to James Roberts) were viewed by many UK readers as the definitive version of the two, with the comics having a huge fan following and the letter pages routinely citing the comics as the "true" version while claiming the cartoon was an inaccurate representation of the story (save for the movie, which was given tie-in comic material exclusive to the UK).

As for me, I too saw the cartoon first, but only because of the following reasons:
  • I was a child of the 90's, so I didn't grow up in the era when both the cartoon and comic thrived.
  • I was an avid TV show watcher as a kid and strongly disliked reading.
  • As I'd gotten into Transformers via Beast Wars and Beast Machines, I wanted to see what the "Autobot and Decepticon" series was like that the two Beast Era cartoons had referenced, and because Beast Wars and Beast Machines were both TV shows, I assumed that their predecessor was likewise a TV show and nothing more.
  • Back then, I didn't know that there even were Transformers comic books, as I thought the only real fiction the toys had were the shows.
  • I didn't see the G1 cartoon until circa 2002-2004, when Kid Rhino put it all out on DVD.
  • It wasn't until I discovered fansites on the Internet in the early 2000s that I learned that Transformers comic books existed.
  • Back then, I didn't know where or how I could read the Marvel Comics as I had no means of accessing them (or even the then-current Dreamwave comics, besides the pack-in ones that came with the Armada and Energon toys).
  • It wasn't until 2010 when I finally got to read ALL of the Marvel Comics in full thanks to torrents of scans (this was before IDW started their most recent series of reprints, which I immediately began purchasing once those came out).
Kurona wrote:and there's a whole slew of Marvel-exclusive characters - whether they have basis in toy or not - that we remember and love from just the Marvel stories like Impactor, Scrounge, Bludgeon, Thunderwing and Straxus. All of which have later gotten official toys.
Though, Thunderwing and Bludgeon had already had official toys in 1989. ;)
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820122)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 3:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:and there's a whole slew of Marvel-exclusive characters - whether they have basis in toy or not - that we remember and love from just the Marvel stories like Impactor, Scrounge, Bludgeon, Thunderwing and Straxus. All of which have later gotten official toys.
Though, Thunderwing and Bludgeon had already had official toys in 1989. ;)

Oh I know; I was simply saying that at the time the Marvel comics were their only fictional representation and what they got popular off of; hence why they were popular enough to receive later toys in ROTF and Generations.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820124)
Posted by nycPrime on August 30th, 2016 @ 3:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?

I grew up with the G1 cartoon, but don't really remember too much after the movie. I had no idea there were any TF comics at that time, and still have yet to read any. I did recently re-watch all of G1 US cartoons and the Japanese Headmaster series. Still have no real interest in the comics.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820129)
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:But that assumes kids read the comic, which was not as popular as the tv show. Am I the only one who watched the show but didnt read the comics?


Italy hasn't really had the comics in any significant way, still today. We have summaries of the original runs, we have reviews, we have access to the English versions (but widely so only post-internet), and we have the Panini translations of the 2007 onwards movie stuff, plus Infiltration. So cartoons it was for those of us who could watch them. I never really saw G1 until muuuuuuuch later, Beast Wars (Biocombat) was my introduction.

As Sabrblade says above, the UK had a completely different landscape, given the weekly nature of Marvel UK material and the direct link between the 1986 movie and the comics.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820130)
Posted by X3ROhour on August 30th, 2016 @ 4:05pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
Z3ROhour wrote:Stranger and stranger...

I had almost no interest in Victorion
Yet here I am
In deep contemplation on this beauty.

:-?


The power of a good/catchy advertisement aka back story 8-)

Absolutely
And
Lotsa black

Hmmmmm...?
Still odd, though

:lol:
>:oP
:twisted:
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820186)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on August 30th, 2016 @ 6:39pm CDT
I just got UW Computron in the mail today from AmiAmi. I'm surprised how fast it came from Japan with EMS. It shipped out on the 27th, arrived in Jamaica, NY on the afternoon of the 28th (I didn't even know there was a Jamaica in NY), and arrived at my home today just south of Rochester, NY. The three-day shipping almost makes up for the extra I paid with the exchange rate!

I'm looking forward to playing around with the set tonight.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820192)
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2016 @ 7:13pm CDT
Got mine from Amiami also today. It was a very quick delivery. However, beside the exchange rate catching up with my wallet, I also received custom fees at delivery :BANG_HEAD: (It's only the second time I had to pay custom fees since I started importing TF toys but stil, the timing sucked).I'm glad I have him but somehow my enjoyement of this set is slightly diminished with all the additional fees that came with it.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820194)
Posted by nycPrime on August 30th, 2016 @ 7:16pm CDT
Ultra Mad wrote:Got mine from Amiami also today. It was a very quick delivery. However, beside the exchange rate catching up with my wallet, I also received custom fees at delivery :BANG_HEAD: (It's only the second time I had to pay custom fees since I started importing TF toys but stil, the timing sucked).I'm glad I have him but somehow my enjoyement of this set is slightly diminished with all the additional fees that came with it.

That sucks! I've never imported from Japan before. Are the customs fees totally random? And what is the % fee?
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820195)
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2016 @ 7:26pm CDT
My import fees were the taxes I would have paid if I would have bought the item in Canada (so 15%) and I was hit with a handling fee of 9,95$ from Canada post. (They wrote on the package it was a fee for taking over delivery from EMS). So Basicaly, I paid 31$ at delivery :-( But again, it's only the second time I had to pay such fees importing.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820201)
Posted by Emerje on August 30th, 2016 @ 7:57pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:
Ultra Mad wrote:Got mine from Amiami also today. It was a very quick delivery. However, beside the exchange rate catching up with my wallet, I also received custom fees at delivery :BANG_HEAD: (It's only the second time I had to pay custom fees since I started importing TF toys but stil, the timing sucked).I'm glad I have him but somehow my enjoyement of this set is slightly diminished with all the additional fees that came with it.

That sucks! I've never imported from Japan before. Are the customs fees totally random? And what is the % fee?


US consumers don't pay customs fees or duty from Japan on items valued under US$2,000 for personal use.

And for those fretting over TFSource pushing the date back, don't worry about it too much. My admittedly limited experience with them has left me waiting a week or more after release for them to process my imports. If it makes you feel better I placed my order on day one and I haven't gotten a payment request from them yet either.

Emerje
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820202)
Posted by Ultra Mad on August 30th, 2016 @ 8:01pm CDT
No import fees under 2,000$ purchase in the US? You're lucky. I wish it was the same in Canada.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820211)
Posted by Cobotron on August 30th, 2016 @ 8:54pm CDT
Canada and the UK have strict customs. I feel for you guys.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820227)
Posted by Kurona on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:28pm CDT
We... do? I remember buying Legends Arcee which I sorely regret and Legends Super Armadascream and having no trouble.
Re: Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron (1820229)
Posted by Cobotron on August 30th, 2016 @ 9:32pm CDT
Kurona wrote:We... do? I remember buying Legends Arcee which I sorely regret and Legends Super Armadascream and having no trouble.
I've heard some stories. Does Scotland have different customs than England? You have different Pounds. (which I still don't understand. No need to explain. Way too off topic. :lol: )

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