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Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off

Sunday, November 15th, 2015 8:29PM CST

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As we are now at mid-November, we are starting to see reviews pop up for the Generations figures making up the first wave of Combiner Wars 2016. Fellow Seibertronian Optibotimus has reviewed Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off. This is the most controversial of the set since, while Combiner Wars Bruticus has all his original members being released at standard retail (unlike what has appeared in every Combiner Wars wave so far), Blast Off's alt mode is the only one to have changed drastically; going from a space shuttle to a jet, and a repaint no less. Thus, this is the toy people were most hesitant for and it is good to now be able to see it in a review.

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Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741754)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 15th, 2015 @ 8:44pm CST
Reading up on his facebook page, by the end of the week all the combaticons will be reviewed: Brawl on monday, Vortex on wednesday and Swindle on Friday. He also said that Brawl is actually not impressing him, as he has very loose joints and the chest is a mess. We'll just have to see when that review comes out tomorrow! :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741755)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 15th, 2015 @ 8:45pm CST
Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741756)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 15th, 2015 @ 8:47pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Reading up on his facebook page, by the end of the week all the combaticons will be reviewed: Brawl on monday, Vortex on wednesday and Swindle on Friday. He also said that Brawl is actually not impressing him, as he has very loose joints and the chest is a mess. We'll just have to see when that review comes out tomorrow! :BOT:


Loose joints are subjective, usually fixable, and varies case by case; I wouldn't be too worried >:oP
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741757)
Posted by optibotimus on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:06pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's so optimistic (optibotimistic (thew-ism)) about them being at retail soon, I mean, I know it's what he says, but, come on, they aren't even at bbts yet.

Guess it does prove though that they are nearer than we thought :-?


I got mine from BBTS. THey got a very small shipment in and filled a few preorders. I was luckily on that list
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741758)
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:07pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


I like the way you see things and I see them the same way too. I dont need him to be a space shuttle per say but what would be fun about a space shuttle would be the assurance that we are getting something new with this figure. Since there is nothing new about the molding here, the toy feels like it is giving less added value aside from having another jet limb but now in a different colour.

I dont see this release any different than say... this:

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Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741760)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:08pm CST
optibotimus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's so optimistic (optibotimistic (thew-ism)) about them being at retail soon, I mean, I know it's what he says, but, come on, they aren't even at bbts yet.

Guess it does prove though that they are nearer than we thought :-?


I got mine from BBTS. THey got a very small shipment in and filled a few preorders. I was luckily on that list


Indeed you are, I just figured it a 'reviewer privilege' and watched the video;

Did you get an Onslaught? They aren't cased together, but didn't know if they got any of those too...
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741761)
Posted by optibotimus on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
optibotimus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's so optimistic (optibotimistic (thew-ism)) about them being at retail soon, I mean, I know it's what he says, but, come on, they aren't even at bbts yet.

Guess it does prove though that they are nearer than we thought :-?


I got mine from BBTS. THey got a very small shipment in and filled a few preorders. I was luckily on that list


Indeed you are, I just figured it a 'reviewer privilege' and watched the video;

Did you get an Onslaught? They aren't cased together, but didn't know if they got any of those too...


We reviewers don't get as many privileges as people seem to think lol. No i didn't get Onslaught but i have that preordered as well. I had heard a rumor that him and SCattershot were due in Monday at retailers. Not specifically BBTS mind you. But it should be soonish i would imagine.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741762)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:12pm CST
optibotimus wrote:I had heard a rumor that him and SCattershot were due in Monday at retailers. Not specifically BBTS mind you. But it should be soonish i would imagine.


What? Like target - brick'n'mortar retailers, or, arriving at bbts retailers?
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741763)
Posted by optibotimus on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
optibotimus wrote:I had heard a rumor that him and SCattershot were due in Monday at retailers. Not specifically BBTS mind you. But it should be soonish i would imagine.


What? Like target - brick'n'mortar retailers, or, arriving at bbts retailers?


I saw it was posted on some ebay page selling them. They said they were coming in stock on Monday for them. I would imagine it would be soon for the other online retailers, maybe a little later for actual stores
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741765)
Posted by MemphisR56 on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CST
optibotimus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
optibotimus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's so optimistic (optibotimistic (thew-ism)) about them being at retail soon, I mean, I know it's what he says, but, come on, they aren't even at bbts yet.

Guess it does prove though that they are nearer than we thought :-?


I got mine from BBTS. THey got a very small shipment in and filled a few preorders. I was luckily on that list


Indeed you are, I just figured it a 'reviewer privilege' and watched the video;

Did you get an Onslaught? They aren't cased together, but didn't know if they got any of those too...


We reviewers don't get as many privileges as people seem to think lol. No i didn't get Onslaught but i have that preordered as well. I had heard a rumor that him and SCattershot were due in Monday at retailers. Not specifically BBTS mind you. But it should be soonish i would imagine.


So what is it about Brawl that makes him so dissapointing? Is it just on the looseness?
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741768)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 15th, 2015 @ 9:27pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Reading up on his facebook page, by the end of the week all the combaticons will be reviewed: Brawl on monday, Vortex on wednesday and Swindle on Friday. He also said that Brawl is actually not impressing him, as he has very loose joints and the chest is a mess. We'll just have to see when that review comes out tomorrow! :BOT:


Loose joints are subjective, usually fixable, and varies case by case; I wouldn't be too worried >:oP

I'm not worried, more like impatient. I really want to see Swindle and Brawl, and I am very excited for the combaticons to come. I just want to see some reviews! :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741781)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on November 15th, 2015 @ 11:36pm CST
I got these guys in too, I'm just waiting in hope Onslaught comes in soon before I ship them.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741785)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on November 15th, 2015 @ 11:58pm CST
Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

Mine's combiner thingy is also misassembled, with the part that connects the thumb/heel to the main part put in upside down, so it doesn't fold up quite right. If not for the stupid pins, it would be an easy fix.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741787)
Posted by padfoo on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:02am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741788)
Posted by william-james88 on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:17am CST
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


Seems to be about the same size as the other components ;)

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Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741792)
Posted by King Kuuga on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:31am CST
Optimum Supreme wrote:Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

My Sunstreaker came with flat paper instructions, I assumed it was standard for wave 4 (he's my only wave 4 purchase). Sounds from your comment like it's not, which is weirder.

william-james88 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


Seems to be about the same size as the other components ;)

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/03/r_bruticus025.jpg
Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery

Oh don't pretend you don't know what he means.
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Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741795)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:41am CST
Sighhhhhhhhh the one time I didn't pre-order something from BBTS
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741796)
Posted by Agamemnon on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:18am CST
That Bot wrote:
Optimum Supreme wrote:Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

My Sunstreaker came with flat paper instructions, I assumed it was standard for wave 4 (he's my only wave 4 purchase). Sounds from your comment like it's not, which is weirder.

My second Motormaster (the one that came with Battle Core OP) came on the same dull paper, almost like it was photocopied. I thought it was weird too.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sighhhhhhhhh the one time I didn't pre-order something from BBTS

I preordered Combaticons as soon as I got the email notification the preorder was available. I didn't get a notice of them being in stock either (even though I have in the past, most notably Leader Ultra Magnus). So, it must have been a really small shipment.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741807)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 5:10am CST
I preordered mine from bbts. They should be here soon. Hope my brawl isn't plagued with looseness. :(

I didn't get onslaught. Did anyone preorder him or did he not come in yet? Honestly waiting on the running change.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741813)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 8:00am CST
william-james88 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


Seems to be about the same size as the other components ;)

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Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery

If you start this up again Will.... :lol: :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741816)
Posted by dragons on November 16th, 2015 @ 8:29am CST
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


New head would be nice look at figure

Thank you optibotimus fast forward articulation and transformation all deluxes in combiner wars have same exact articulation see one figure possibility in same series see them all
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741817)
Posted by william-james88 on November 16th, 2015 @ 8:33am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If you start this up again Will.... :lol: :BOT:


:lol: I just couldnt resist.

But you know guys in all honesty, I do not understand why people need to bring up the idea of realism in a series where a sentient robot looks like this:

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Or this

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or this:

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A space shuttle being the same size as a tank is not what is stopping this concept from being any more realistic.

And we joke that G1 throws scale out the window but its Beast Wars that makes alt mode scale something really silly.

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Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741819)
Posted by fenrir72 on November 16th, 2015 @ 8:40am CST
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741821)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:00am CST
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If you start this up again Will.... :lol: :BOT:


:lol: I just couldnt resist.

But you know guys in all honesty, I do not understand why people need to bring up the idea of realism in a series where a sentient robot looks like this:
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I know you couldn't ;) I don't even know why we try anymore. :lol: :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741830)
Posted by Segor on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:44am CST
I'll just add a custom face plate, that would do it for me 8-)
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741831)
Posted by Agamemnon on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:48am CST
Optimizzy wrote:I preordered mine from bbts. They should be here soon. Hope my brawl isn't plagued with looseness. :(

I didn't get onslaught. Did anyone preorder him or did he not come in yet? Honestly waiting on the running change.

I preordered Onslaught. No news on him yet. But, related to this, do we know when/how the running change will be released? Is the second version of Onslaught case mates with Sky Lynx?

fenrir72 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Yeah, I like to bring up this picture. :D

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Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741833)
Posted by Shuttershock on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:50am CST
fenrir72 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.


Well, there was that ONE time...

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Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741836)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:55am CST
Shuttershock wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
padfoo wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding [-(


Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.


There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.


Well, there was that ONE time...

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Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus) :lol: :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741837)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 9:56am CST
My only possible complaint with blast off is the head. But that's an easy third party fix (hint hint). To me I never understood my a Combaticon was a vehicle that was expressly built for research. He should always have been a jet in my opinion. After all Starscream built him from left over WW2 parts right? So...space shuttle doesn't really fit either. A jet doesn't fit with WW2 (unless it's the sweet Me-262) but that's better than a space shuttle.

That's all just personal preference. I'm curious as to what Takara is going to do. I'm guessing a massive retool to Alpha Bravo to make a space shuttle. I think that's cool.

I only wished Hasbro would have really jumped on the "unique" combiner idea and released these Takara limbs (maybe as new characters) so we had a variety of display options. Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741843)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 10:32am CST
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741845)
Posted by Shuttershock on November 16th, 2015 @ 10:37am CST
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741848)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 10:40am CST
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741852)
Posted by Insurgent on November 16th, 2015 @ 10:50am CST
william-james88 wrote:And we joke that G1 throws scale out the window but its Beast Wars that makes alt mode scale something really silly.

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Beast Wars used the robot mode scale and simply applied the animal alt mode to the size of the robot mode. Alt mode scale never came into play in the show, as they didn't have mass shifting, probably being too energy intensive to pull off and was lost in the Great Upgrade. As for G1... well, they were called Archaic Energon guzzlers, probably because in part they could mass shift.


Anyhoo, I never understood the demand for alt mode scale. One would think, with how most folks go on about how they display their collection in robot mode, folks would want robot mode scale.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741856)
Posted by Shuttershock on November 16th, 2015 @ 10:52am CST
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741858)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 11:03am CST
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741865)
Posted by Insurgent on November 16th, 2015 @ 11:28am CST
The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741872)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 11:55am CST
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I am fairly certain it is the same gun. Looks exactly the same on screen and to the toy :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741875)
Posted by no-one on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741877)
Posted by Va'al on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CST
Fresh from the Energon Pub, Seibertronian YouTuber optibotimus has shared his next video review, this time featuring Generations Combiner Wars Combaticon Brawl! An all-new mold, the little bruiser that could is part of the Bruticus gestalt Transformer, along with Blast Off and the upcoming figures featuring remolded previous toys. Check it out below.

Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741883)
Posted by optibotimus on November 16th, 2015 @ 12:37pm CST
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741890)
Posted by Scottywan82 on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:07pm CST
optibotimus wrote:
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion


Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741892)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
Scottywan82 wrote:
optibotimus wrote:
Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.


I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion


Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

We were talking about the Blastoff review, and just the gun, not the hand/foot gun (even though for Blastoff they are both the same) :BOT:
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741896)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:27pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741903)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:40pm CST
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off
I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.


I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.
Ugh. I could see that being the case. :(


Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.


Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.
It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741906)
Posted by no-one on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741909)
Posted by Cobotron on November 16th, 2015 @ 1:55pm CST
Seeing as how I paid $21 dullars for Quakerslacker, I'd pay $20 for a cewl motoslickle robit. 8-}
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741917)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:18pm CST
groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741919)
Posted by no-one on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741925)
Posted by Optimizzy on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:31pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing
I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.


I paid more for both of them but it was worth it to me. I'm more interested with actually being able to get them without buying a whole set
Re: Video Review for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blast Off (1741936)
Posted by Shuttershock on November 16th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CST
carytheone wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?
Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...
Image
Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.


Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy [-(
It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.


Plus it would make a custom Renegades Combiner I've been thinking about feasible. :D

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