Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?

Transformers News: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?

Sunday, September 1st, 2013 11:03AM CDT

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Seibertron.com member Mindmaster has found a piece of potential juiciy news, originally posted by DecepticusPrime on fellow fansite TFW2005. Check it out below, and leave your thought in the Energon Pub!

Mindmaster wrote:While working at his job in Wal*Mart, TFW2005 user DecepticusPrime found a rather interesting find; possible Deluxes of Rattrap, Nightbeat, Crosscut, and Tankor!

was messing around the system at work this morning(walmart) and saw these listed in the deluxe assortment
Rattrap, Nightbe(at i assume), tankor, and Crosscu(t i assume)

551716976-crosscut
551716975-tankor
551716974-rattrap
551716973-nightbeat


According to the user, he says they were cross-referenced with the IDW Generations: Thrilling 30 line.
Credit(s): Mindmaster, DecepticusPrime
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Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515092)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 1st, 2013 @ 11:19am CDT
Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?

Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515099)
Posted by First-Aid on September 1st, 2013 @ 11:41am CDT
Generations Ratrap?? Fer bootin' up cold...!

Seriously, that's pretty awesome.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515105)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:02pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?


When I was proposing my theory, I also hit the same snag. But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.

[quote]
Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.[/quote]

Ehh, maybe. I could see them doing a Tankor first, then, knowing how lazy Hasbro can be sometimes, they can redeco it into Grindcore.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515112)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:17pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!

Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515113)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:23pm CDT
Bumblevivisector wrote:
Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!

Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?


How about the laser pistol that was used in the cartoon? Or maybe one of his explosives that he also used often in the cartoon? ;)
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515116)
Posted by Prime Evil on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:32pm CDT
I would love a nightbeat done like this:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... tbeat.html
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515124)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:44pm CDT
Prime Evil wrote:I would love a nightbeat done like this:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... tbeat.html


Is it coincidence that I was just looking at that gallery not even a minute ago? :shock:
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515127)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 1st, 2013 @ 12:56pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:
Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!

Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?


How about the laser pistol that was used in the cartoon? Or maybe one of his explosives that he also used often in the cartoon? ;)
I was assuming the gun is a given, but neither of those examples would take up enough space to get a scout-sized Rattrap into deluxe packaging, much like Animated Prowl's shuriken (and he wasn't even Scout-y, just skinny). Maybe if they threw in a dozen of those bombs, but did he ever use more than 2 at once on the show, 1 in each forearm?

As for Nightbeat, that example looks awesome...but dammit, I still want a Nightbeat with not only his Marvel head, but G1 character model chest! To The Pit with IDW considerations!
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515131)
Posted by Prime Evil on September 1st, 2013 @ 1:07pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Prime Evil wrote:I would love a nightbeat done like this:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... tbeat.html


Is it coincidence that I was just looking at that gallery not even a minute ago? :shock:


Coincidence or did i mind control Mindmaster?!?!?! ;)
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515135)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on September 1st, 2013 @ 1:31pm CDT
If those listings are true, then we pretty much have the whole line-up for the coming year, give or take. We now have 17 Deluxes, which is a good size for the year (Prime had 14 and 16 Deluxes, FoC Generations had 18).
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515138)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 1:38pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If those listings are true, then we pretty much have the whole line-up for the coming year, give or take. We now have 17 Deluxes, which is a good size for the year (Prime had 14 and 16 Deluxes, FoC Generations had 18).


I remember reading sometime last year that Generations would receive up to at least forty toys. Including the Fall of Cybertron Deluxes and Voyagers, and the the Thrilling 30 Voyagers, we've got just about forty five in total (may have forgotten a couple Voyagers). I'd say we received much love for us Classics-lovers. :lol:
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515152)
Posted by Dead Metal on September 1st, 2013 @ 2:37pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?

Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.

There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.

I do believe tanker is the Beast Machines guy.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515153)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 2:41pm CDT
Dead Metal wrote:
There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.


Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515154)
Posted by Dead Metal on September 1st, 2013 @ 2:47pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.


Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.

It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515161)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 1st, 2013 @ 3:06pm CDT
Dead Metal wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.


Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.

It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.


Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue. Admittedly, he's not being produced with his IDW body, as he's a repaint of Generations Blitzwing. Still, being dead doesn't stop a toy from being made. How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515165)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 1st, 2013 @ 3:15pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue.
Yeah, but he appeared in the IDW comics well before his own spotlight issue, making on and off recurring appearances before his death at the end of in his spotlight.

Wolfman Jake wrote:How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
Cliffjumper also starred in the four-issue Prime graphic novel that came out more than a month before the cartoon's first episode premiered.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515166)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on September 1st, 2013 @ 3:18pm CDT
Oh man. I would love a new version of Nightbeat!
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515176)
Posted by Dead Metal on September 1st, 2013 @ 4:01pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.


Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.

It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.


Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue. Admittedly, he's not being produced with his IDW body, as he's a repaint of Generations Blitzwing. Still, being dead doesn't stop a toy from being made. How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?

Here's the differences:
Doubledealer is an established oldschool character
Doubledealer was a major character before his death
Grindcore was only in that one issue to get killed off, he wasn't even a minor character, that's like making a toy based off of the guy Megatron killed in that one flashback of the movie (07).
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515184)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on September 1st, 2013 @ 4:26pm CDT
And silly me, we have a full 18 Deluxes this year. I forgot about the Mini-Con 3-pack. :oops:
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor? (1515185)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 1st, 2013 @ 4:28pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And silly me, we have a full 18 Deluxes this year. I forgot about the Mini-Con 3-pack. :oops:


Same here. So let me correct myself: 46 Generations toys.

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