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Sabrblade wrote:If we're going to get so pedantic about piracy, then every single Decepticon who's ever stolen something has been a pirate.
and the alcohol content. although...engex here I suppose.GuyIncognito wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If we're going to get so pedantic about piracy, then every single Decepticon who's ever stolen something has been a pirate.
No, that's not true. Only if they "sailed" around in a ship, raiding and robbing other ships. Otherwise, they're no more pirates than any burglar or mugger. It's not the robbing that defines a pirate; it's the method and the lifestyle.
GuyIncognito wrote:Sabrblade wrote: He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources
That's exactly what pirates did. They raided other ships for their resources. Contrary to popular movies, pirates weren't seeking fortune; they were mostly seeking food and resources.
Midnight_Fox wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:Sabrblade wrote: He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources
That's exactly what pirates did. They raided other ships for their resources. Contrary to popular movies, pirates weren't seeking fortune; they were mostly seeking food and resources.
If you want to get REALLY technical, historically most pirates weren't pirates at all, they were privateers.
Va'al wrote:And syphilis. Don't forget syphilis.
Hmm.. space rust?
Also, Animated Bludgeon was meant to be either a samurai or..
GuyIncognito wrote:Sabrblade wrote: He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources
That's exactly what pirates did. They raided other ships for their resources. Contrary to popular movies, pirates weren't seeking fortune; they were mostly seeking food and resources.
A Samurai, on the other hand, is a high-ranking military class that served nobility.
If Bludgeon was sailing around space in a ship raiding other ships for resources, he was acting like a pirate, not a samurai.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
Caelus wrote:I cannot concur. At that point in time, Bludgeon was commander of the Decepticon army (assuming the position after Unicron's defeat), and his actions were strategic in nature. At that rate, Bludgeon's status would preclude him from fitting the given, romantic definition of a samurai, since no one outranks him (perhaps Shogun would be more appropriate?)
Of course, while privateers sailed in service of a nation during war (note that the designation of privateer vs. pirate is somewhat fluid), some pirates became powerful enough to rival nations themselves.
To my mind, Bludgeon doesn't fit either of those archetypes, though. As I recall, the Autobots routed the Decepticon army and scattered it after Bludgeon broke their truce, but no other truce was made - the Decepticons, almost fully under Bludgeon's command, were still formally at war with the Autobots, and began attacking, pillaging, and terrorizing third parties as part of their ongoing war with the Autobots, and overall dedication to conquest (I don't recall Bludgeon getting through a single page without using some derivation of the word "conquer" at least twice). For what it matters, I don't recall him raiding for currency or necessities, I only remember him raiding ships and planets for technology, weapons, and sheer bloody-minded tyrannical sadism.
So, in my opinion, not samurai, not pirate.
But... given his adherence to a brutal warrior ethos, and leadership of a formally-recognized (but nomadic) large military force stealing military resources and terrorizing the locals, I see some parallels to the Mongols.
Unicron Trilogy molds are a no go. As of 2013, the Club isn't using them anymore.Caelus wrote:Side Note - Many have already been mentioned, but I've had some thoughts about molds that might be used for Botcon:
Armada Demolisher (Eye Patch)
Armada Sea Minicon Team (Boats)
Energon Sharkticon (Boat)
Energon Slugslinger (Eye Patch)
Energon Mirage/Dreadwing (Boat)
Cybertron Shortround (Boat)
Cybertron Thunderblast (Boat)
Cybertron Dirtboss (Eye Patch)
Animated/Movie Lockdown (Hook Hand)
Movie Terradive/Space Case (Tridents)
These pirates will more than likely be the Maraudicons rather than the Star Seekers since this is the Wings Universe rather than the Aligned continuity, so no need for beast-based pirates.Caelus wrote:The suggestion that the pirates all need to be animals is interesting, and I'd like to see a mock up of Thunderclash in Cannonball's colors, though I wonder if this could end up being a case of pirate vs. pirate - Cannonball's crew vs. Thunderclash's crew - instead of our usual Autobot vs. Decepticon?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Unicron Trilogy molds are a no go. As of 2013, the Club isn't using them anymore.
Sabrblade wrote:Also, why Thunderclash? He's a truck. And an Autobot Elite Guardsman (former, and if he's still alive, that is).
That toy's too new for the Club to use.Caelus wrote:Hmm... How would Dai Atlas's color scheme look on Simplified-Voyager Prime Predaking?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
They might be too new to use.Caelus wrote:Curious... is there anything explicitly saying the exclusives can't include Constructbots?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Let's see, sword-wielding figures from 2007 to today (minus molds the Club can't use) include:
Deluxe Animated Sentinel Prime
Deluxe Animated Samurai Prowl
Voyager Animated Grimlock
Leader Animated Megatron
Deluxe Animated Arcee
Deluxe Universe Dinobot
Voyager ROTF Bludgeon
Voyager ROTF Mindwipe
Deluxe Reveal the Shield (Laser) Optimus Prime
Deluxe Generations Cybertronian Bumblebee
Deluxe Generations Autobot Drift
Deluxe Generations Fall of Cybertron Ultra Magnus
Deluxe Generations Fall of Cybertron Air Raid
Voyager Generations Fall of Cybertron Grimlock
Voyager Generations Thrilling 30 Autobot Springer
Voyager Generations Thrilling 30 Blitzwing
Deluxe Generations GDO Autobot Springer
Voyager Prime First Edition Optimus Prime
Deluxe Prime Robots in Disguise Wheeljack
Deluxe Prime Robots in Disguise Ratchet
Voyager Prime Robots in Disguise Dreadwing
Voyager Prime Robots in Disguise Thundertron
Voyager Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime
Voyager Prime Beast Hunters Predaking
Voyager Prime Beast Hunters Sharkticon Megatron
Ultimate Prime Beast Hunters Beast Fire Predaking
Go! G01 Kenzan
Go! G02 Jinbu
Anyone armed with a sword-based Arms Micron![]()
Speaking of which, sword-based and sword-like Arms Microns include:
R.A.
Gabu + Baru + Dai = Dark Matter Calibur
Wuji
Giza
L.P.
Bumblebee Sword
Arcee Blade
Wheeljack Kunai
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now you're scaring me there Sabrblade![]()
But he's a bat.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But should we really limit ourselves to swords? Other melee weapons are fair game IMO. In fact, Arms Micron Hades would be perfect as the obligatory "parrot".
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now you're scaring me there Sabrblade![]()
But he's a bat.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But should we really limit ourselves to swords? Other melee weapons are fair game IMO. In fact, Arms Micron Hades would be perfect as the obligatory "parrot".
njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now you're scaring me there Sabrblade![]()
But he's a bat.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But should we really limit ourselves to swords? Other melee weapons are fair game IMO. In fact, Arms Micron Hades would be perfect as the obligatory "parrot".
What never hit anything with a bat before?
Yoink.
Sabrblade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now you're scaring me there Sabrblade![]()
But he's a bat.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But should we really limit ourselves to swords? Other melee weapons are fair game IMO. In fact, Arms Micron Hades would be perfect as the obligatory "parrot".
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now you're scaring me there Sabrblade![]()
But he's a bat.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But should we really limit ourselves to swords? Other melee weapons are fair game IMO. In fact, Arms Micron Hades would be perfect as the obligatory "parrot".
Hence "parrot" in parentheses.Then again, Gul or Baru would be better choices.
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