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Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Randomhero » Fri May 20, 2016 2:40 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
And f&$& 3rd parties.

Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups. >:oP


Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC.

And yet you collect Hasbro figures. :lol:

Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw

So, every Tuesday then.
but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.

And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.

If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.

I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.

Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)[/quote]


Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting? I stopped and don't buy from 3p. However you continue at the end of the day if you don't like what the company is creating anymore than maybe it's time to pause, take a breath and say "I think I'm done"
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Evil Eye » Fri May 20, 2016 2:43 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
And f&$& 3rd parties.

Yeah, f*$! those people offering higher-quality alternatives to HasTak figures and releasing upgrades/fixes to deal with HasTak's f*ckups. >:oP


Thanks but I'll never give 3rd parties my money again. I've been 3P free for over a year becaus I decided that I'd rather not Pisa my money on brittle plastic and low QC.

And yet you collect Hasbro figures. :lol:

Sure once In a while an official figure will have a flaw

So, every Tuesday then.
but it doesn't count for the over flow of garbage that's coming out from every random dude who thinks he can make a toy.

And yet there are a lot of people out there who have had plenty of good experiences with 3P figures. I'm not denying you've had the problems you've had, but in all honesty it sounds more like bad luck on your end than definitive proof that third parties are universally awful. Heck, the market wouldn't even exist if they were all that bad. There's plenty of sucky 3P figures for sure (not helped by the recent influx of bootlegs of their stuff) but to say that every third party product is "garbage" is just silly.

If we're going by the "My figure sucked so it must all be awful" logic-
>My Targetmaster Reflector broke at the hinge from regular transforming.
>My Targetmaster Spinister literally fell apart.
>My Legends Megatron's head snapped off when I tried to turn it.
>Every single CW/UW figure I own/owned has had some flaw or breakage (Drag Strip got stress marks on the HFG port, Skydive's legs don't tab in properly for jet mode, Fireflight has a badly pinned in shin armature making his transformation difficult, Alpha Bravo has a floppy waist and a cracked HFG port, Silverbolt had warped rubber antenna and flaking paint everywhere, and the less said about Defensor the better).
>My reissue Seacons are very poorly toleranced and barely hold together in combined mode.
>My Animated Arcee's left thumb snapped clean off.
>My Animated Blackarachnia came with a non-functional grapple gun and had to be exchanged.
And many, many other flaws with many other figures. If your logic was applied to my experiences, the only possible conclusion one could come to is that HasTak's product is patently inadequate. So yeah. Don't come crying to me about crappy figures.

I'll stick with official stuff and if they don't make it well I'll just have to act my age and accept that I can't always get what I want.

Fine, you do that. Enjoy your misassembled knees, stress marks, sh*tty plastic and fracturing HFG ports. :^)



Then why continue being a fan and continue collecting?[/quote]

I barely collect anything these days to be honest. Nowadays I largely collect older figures (from when HasTak's plastic quality wasn't total cack). In future most of my TF purchases will be 3P most likely. I know for certain I'm never collecting official combiners again, unless the MP line releases them.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri May 20, 2016 2:49 pm

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Slashercon wrote:My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled. :BANG_HEAD: Just compared her with Onslaught and the legs won't lock properly. I wonder if Hasbro will be willing to fix the issue.



They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.

Mine are very tight too. So the misassembly is really no issue here!
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Slashercon » Fri May 20, 2016 5:23 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Slashercon wrote:My Pyra Magna figure is also misassembled. :BANG_HEAD: Just compared her with Onslaught and the legs won't lock properly. I wonder if Hasbro will be willing to fix the issue.



They won't. I just got line and her legs are misassembled too but they're surprisingly tight so I'm quite alread with it.

Mine are very tight too. So the misassembly is really no issue here!

The joints on my Magna's knees are tight enough to stand up without vigorous shaking, but I still don't like that she wasn't assembled correctly.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Slashercon » Fri May 20, 2016 5:25 pm

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Honestly, I find Jumpstream to be more hectic, as she can't roll in vehicle mode what with her undercarriage. properly and her chest doesn't tab in correctly either.

Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.

As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby WreckerJack » Sun May 22, 2016 1:29 am

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Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby King Kuuga » Sun May 22, 2016 2:32 am

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WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.

Combiner Wars is basically done after this, Computron, and Liokaiser, and all of those are box sets. Individual releases will be Titans Return and RID figures with their appropriate line's gimmicks, not single packed versions of CW box set figures. Either get the box set and try to sell it off without the torso, or find a website breaking up the box sets. There will not be an individual retail release.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Burn » Sun May 22, 2016 6:05 am

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First there were Titans Return Legends, and then there was Titans Return Fortress Maximus, and now as the weekend draws to a close we can report that the girls have arrived!

Thanks to Zommael of OzFormers, Victorion has been found at Toys 'R Us Maroochydore for $199.99AU.

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby william-james88 » Sun May 22, 2016 6:24 am

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WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.

100% sure they wont release them individually. But keep an eye on e-bay in the next year, people might sell them individuallt there.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Sigma Magnus » Sun May 22, 2016 6:46 am

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WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.

100% sure they wont release them individually. But keep an eye on e-bay in the next year, people might sell them individuallt there.

From what I've seen, people already are. Saw somebody selling Jumpstream the other day.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Nophix » Sun May 22, 2016 7:52 pm

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Looks like people on eBay are breaking up sets and selling individual figures if that's what you need.

I'm hoping she'll be in stock for a while. Emergency car repairs killed my budget for a bit.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 22, 2016 8:34 pm

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WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.

I've seen them being sold individually on Ebay. Not overly good prices, but they are there, all 6 of them.

Slashercon wrote:Honestly, I find Jumpstream to be more hectic, as she can't roll in vehicle mode what with her undercarriage. properly and her chest doesn't tab in correctly either.

Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.

As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon May 23, 2016 1:36 pm

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I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone?? :VEHI:
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon May 23, 2016 3:39 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone?? :VEHI:

Really not sure at this point. they may, but Sky Reign is next on their list, so who knows :MAXIMAL:
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Madeus Prime » Mon May 23, 2016 4:18 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm sure there will be some repaints of these molds somewhere down the line. But will Takara be putting their spin on this set...anyone?? :VEHI:

Really not sure at this point. they may, but Sky Reign is next on their list, so who knows :MAXIMAL:

My guess is that they'll repaint Jumpstream as Arcee and Dustup as Nightbird. Maybe a remold of Pyra as Elita-1. The twin I don't know about, maybe versions of Roulette and Shadowstrike?
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 23, 2016 9:59 pm

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Slashercon » Tue May 24, 2016 2:06 am

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Now if you'll excuse me, Burn needs to go sell some more News Crew souls to fund all these latest releases!

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WreckerJack wrote:Do you think that they may release these figures separately? I kinda want Pyra but I don't want to spend 100$ for all of them.

I've seen them being sold individually on Ebay. Not overly good prices, but they are there, all 6 of them.

Slashercon wrote:Honestly, I find Jumpstream to be more hectic, as she can't roll in vehicle mode what with her undercarriage. properly and her chest doesn't tab in correctly either.

Fun fact: My Dustup figure doesn't have as many problems as the original Breakdown figure I have, so this makes her the only figure in the bunch that I consider an improvement on a previous mold, quality control wise.

As for Skybrust, the front half of her head fell off when I turned her head for the first time when transforming her. I put it back on and it hasn't fallen off since, but still. :/

did you have the car bots backwards? Dustup is the Dead end mold. And after some playing, Dustup now pegs in very nicely and holds together well :MAXIMAL:

i actually did have them backwards. I meant to say Dustup for the transforming issues, and Jumpstream for qc superiority over Breakdown. I tried transforing her properly, but so far, to no avail.
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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It finally came to me that it's Dust Up not Du Stup! Stupid one word names, Dustup.

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So not only has Burn posted news I think twice in the past week

Someone's gotta do the job you slackers don't. >:oP

And yes, I know I'm slow in replying, truth is, I don't read news crew posts (except those where you lot get reported), someone else quoted you though so I got tricked into reading it. :-P
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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue May 24, 2016 6:59 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So not only has Burn posted news I think twice in the past week

Someone's gotta do the job you slackers don't. >:oP

And yes, I know I'm slow in replying, truth is, I don't read news crew posts (except those where you lot get reported), someone else quoted you though so I got tricked into reading it. :-P

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Re: Combiner Wars Fan-Built Victorion and the Rust Renegades

Postby Agamemnon » Tue May 24, 2016 8:58 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So not only has Burn posted news I think twice in the past week

Someone's gotta do the job you slackers don't. >:oP

And yes, I know I'm slow in replying, truth is, I don't read news crew posts (except those where you lot get reported), someone else quoted you though so I got tricked into reading it. :-P

shot through the heart #-o

And hey! We're not in Australia! it helps to have you lets us know what's happenin' in the land down under!

Plus, I liked your news posts. Compliment, please read :D :MAXIMAL:

Maybe you should self report your post to make Burn read it. Image

Victorion and Groove should be in my POL soon. I'm loving the pictures here! Can't wait to get her. With the hands tucked away in the feet, do the feet still clip to 5mm ports?
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
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