The Energon Pub

by **Till-all-R1** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:49 pm

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I'm glad we get to see figures eearly, but it's still wrong

It may very well be, but with everything else that's wrong going on in today's world I feel this isn't the hill to die on for anyone. It's between them and their maker.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:50 pm

Any word on '86 Insecticons?

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:53 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Any word on '86 Insecticons?

Why would there be? Kickback is in Legacy.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:56 pm

sol magnus wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Any word on '86 Insecticons?

Why would there be? Kickback is in Legacy.

That's what I mean. Are the other two coming out in Legacy or SS? Hopefully not another Cyclonus situation.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:01 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Any word on '86 Insecticons?

Why would there be? Kickback is in Legacy.

That's what I mean. Are the other two coming out in Legacy or SS? Hopefully not another Cyclonus situation.

Well, disappointingly, there's been no word. As yet. The day is young.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:07 pm

Good to know. In light of Kickback, I don't think it should be too long before we hear something. Then again, it's been a while since the other two have received figures. A little longer for Bombshell*, I think?

*A Transforming Bombshell, of course.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:20 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Just a quick interlude to remind folk that this is the thread for SS86 toys, not bash on YouTuber. Keep it on the toys, not the people.

Tbf none of the news staff have the balls to place his reviews in the ill gotten figure reviews thread or tell him to post them there

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:02 pm

ZeroWolf wrote: *ahem*

The link was provided (and the thread created) precisely to avoid derailing threads where such a topic might occur.

What you meant to write was "thank you".

blackeyedprime wrote:Tbf none of the news staff have the balls to place his reviews in the ill gotten figure reviews thread or tell him to post them there

As much as I might agree with some of your points, you might find it more hospitable (or relevant) to post about this topic at a dedicated thread , either at the link you created yourself, or at the one I shared.

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:20 pm

well im delighted with the core class ratchet cause it means we'll inevitably get a core class ironhide too.

been on a bit of a core class kick as i wanted to use em to populate my titan class bases and its been a bit lean on the bot side of things.

i mean ive got megs , screamer, soundwave and shockwave for the decep side of things . which is basically their entire g1 heavy hitter line up.

but for the bots its just prime as i didnt fancy that hot rod fig. so its nice to see he'll have ratchet and ironhide for company.

now to see a prowl wheeljack and grimlock down the road.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:25 pm

One of my friends is really into the Core Class. I don't get the appeal myself. But I do wonder how long this line is going to go on for and how deep into the franchise it will go? I mean, G2 Megatron being there does broaden the scope already.

News Credits: 6 · by **RodimusPrimeUkraine1** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:27 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of my friends is really into the Core Class. I don't get the appeal myself. But I do wonder how long this line is going to go on for and how deep into the franchise it will go? I mean, G2 Megatron being there does broaden the scope already.

Core class is so poor people can experience wfc too

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:35 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of my friends is really into the Core Class. I don't get the appeal myself. But I do wonder how long this line is going to go on for and how deep into the franchise it will go? I mean, G2 Megatron being there does broaden the scope already.

i was shocked we got a core class iguanus. we neve got characters like him in ireland and the UK (They limited releases of some lines so skullgrin bomb burts and sub maurder made it, bugly iguanus and finback didnt . same happend on the bot side too)

though i gotta say if were getting pretender updates i'd prefer what were getting with deluxe skullgrin.

still its great to see "out there" characters get a go.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:37 pm

partholon wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of my friends is really into the Core Class. I don't get the appeal myself. But I do wonder how long this line is going to go on for and how deep into the franchise it will go? I mean, G2 Megatron being there does broaden the scope already.

i was shocked we got a core class iguanus. we neve got characters like him in ireland and the UK (They limited releases of some lines so skullgrin bomb burts and sub maurder made it, bugly iguanus and finback didnt . same happend on the bot side too)

though i gotta say if were getting pretender updates i'd prefer what were getting with deluxe skullgrin.

still its great to see "out there" characters get a go.

Ahh, the UK...one of the truly wretched sh*tholes for toy collecting. I'm so glad I left!

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:39 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:Ahh, the UK...one of the truly wretched sh*tholes for you collecting. I'm so glad I left!

Well, it is easier thanks to the internet. Still we are another of those places, beyond the borders of the US and Japan, that HasTak doesn't think exists.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:45 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:One of my friends is really into the Core Class. I don't get the appeal myself. But I do wonder how long this line is going to go on for and how deep into the franchise it will go? I mean, G2 Megatron being there does broaden the scope already.

I like the Core Class A-Listers (Optimus, Hot Rod, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.) because they’re the right size to fit on my desk at work and not take up too much space. When I need a little break, I play with them, either posing them or transforming them back and forth. I got them all dabbing a while ago. That was a hit with my coworkers.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:46 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Ahh, the UK...one of the truly wretched sh*tholes for you collecting. I'm so glad I left!

Well, it is easier thanks to the internet. Still we are another of those places, beyond the borders of the US and Japan, that HasTak doesn't think exists.

At least y'all had Marvel UK.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:14 pm

Other companies have proved a market for core class sized TFs so it makes sense Hasbro does them. Also in a day in age where there is so much to collect and maybe not much room to collect, the ikkle guys will always be neat.

I'm not sure on what is making Ironhide voyager until seeing the retail release (and even then probably not), maybe it's hasbro trying to claw back for selling a large (aka totally normal) Ironhide deluxe at deluxe price instead of a smaller deluxe

It will be the alt mode that decides it for me if I need him though the recent picture does make the robot mode legs look a bit better.

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:20 pm

there IS a weird karmic dynamic going on there.

we may not have got the full line, but while you lot were reading "robot wrestling" we were reading time wars.

:-D

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:28 pm

Too small for the class, SS86 versus mainline, stolen product review complaints, this thread today is a greatest hits of forum flamewars.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:18 pm

Emerje wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:PvP has stated elsewhere that he's a tad shorter than Siege/Earthrise (no specific amount was given). I'm not totally sure how that compares to Grapple, but I'm pretty sure it's shorter?

Multiple leakers have also now stated he doesn't partsform (so presumably no sled, which might have been outright stated too but IDR), and one leaker who has seen info on the mold said that the mold includes an alternate Ratchet head (obviously), only one gun for Ironhide (I don't remember if there were different guns for Ratchet), and "alternate battle damaged parts". I believe the current theory on the battle damaged parts is that they are for separate releases and won't come with the base version, because a damaged Ratchet chest plate would be the most logical damaged part, and PvP mentioned that the chest plate is pinned on. So at this point it looks like this is it.

(Info from TFW)

Siege and Earthrise...what? Ironhides? Voyagers? Can't imagine why he would be shorter than the previous versions, but slightly smaller than Grapple would make sense (MP uses the same scale, photo below comes from Cyberpath here on the forums).

Interesting that they have battle damage tied to the mold, but what would that release even look like? A dead Prime is one thing, he got a proper send off surrounded by his fellow Autobots, Ratchet and Ironhide's deaths were far from noble and releasing figures of them would be a little more morbid. Time for that Starscream ash pile to get a figure!

BTW, I never doubted that Ironhide was a Voyager, I just meant I could see him getting the Hot Rod treatment and the sled would just be an accessory like it was on the MP, not part of the alt mode. Hopefully the complexity is there to justify the price. The Grapple mold got three accessories after all, that tiny gun that comes with Ironhide doesn't really cut it by comparison.

Emerje

Siege and Earthrise Ironhide, yeah. I got the impression that this isn't much shorter, but I guess we'll find out soon.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:38 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:Multiple leakers have also now stated he doesn't partsform (so presumably no sled, which might have been outright stated too but IDR), and one leaker who has seen info on the mold said that the mold includes an alternate Ratchet head (obviously), only one gun for Ironhide (I don't remember if there were different guns for Ratchet), and "alternate battle damaged parts". I believe the current theory on the battle damaged parts is that they are for separate releases and won't come with the base version, because a damaged Ratchet chest plate would be the most logical damaged part, and PvP mentioned that the chest plate is pinned on. So at this point it looks like this is it.

(Info from TFW)

Very curious about these battle-damaged parts... It wouldn't take much to make a faux chest piece that snaps on to the original. Maybe molded cracks/holes with additional paint apps to emphasize the holes; maybe all of the damage created using paint.
Considering both characters were blasted in the chest area, it would really only require one piece per figure.
I know in the movie Ironhide had additional damage as he crawled/grabbed Megatron's leg, but I don't think that's necessary.
In fact, I'll still get these figures even if this rumor is completely false.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:02 pm

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Core class is so poor people can experience wfc too

News Credits: 6 · by **RodimusPrimeUkraine1** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:20 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:Multiple leakers have also now stated he doesn't partsform (so presumably no sled, which might have been outright stated too but IDR), and one leaker who has seen info on the mold said that the mold includes an alternate Ratchet head (obviously), only one gun for Ironhide (I don't remember if there were different guns for Ratchet), and "alternate battle damaged parts". I believe the current theory on the battle damaged parts is that they are for separate releases and won't come with the base version, because a damaged Ratchet chest plate would be the most logical damaged part, and PvP mentioned that the chest plate is pinned on. So at this point it looks like this is it.

(Info from TFW)

Very curious about these battle-damaged parts... It wouldn't take much to make a faux chest piece that snaps on to the original. Maybe molded cracks/holes with additional paint apps to emphasize the holes; maybe all of the damage created using paint.
Considering both characters were blasted in the chest area, it would really only require one piece per figure.
I know in the movie Ironhide had additional damage as he crawled/grabbed Megatron's leg, but I don't think that's necessary.
In fact, I'll still get these figures even if this rumor is completely false.

Yes, like mp megatron.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:35 pm

I won't get Core class Ratchet... But I'm thinking I'll end up displaying Core Megs, Soundwave, SS, and Skywarp (& hopefully Thundercracker eventually) with Legacy Menasor.

I'll spread this topic out a bit more... Here's some progress for my Planet of Junk diorama...

This is a bird's eye view of the base. This is definitely not done.

Then here are sections that will be hanging down from the bottom of the front edge.
These are finished and ready to go.

Tons of carving, lots of painting. Probably my most involved, detailed scene I've done so far.
Unfortunately, with taking a new teaching gig in a new district (which is an awesome move for me and my family), my summer break basically ended over week ago.
Meaning, this diorama is being put on the back burner of the back burner.

I'm not really trying to take this thread off topic... At some point I'll add a personal collection thread to that forum.

News Credits: 6 · by **RodimusPrimeUkraine1** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:57 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:I won't get Core class Ratchet... But I'm thinking I'll end up displaying Core Megs, Soundwave, SS, and Skywarp (& hopefully Thundercracker eventually) with Legacy Menasor.

I'll spread this topic out a bit more... Here's some progress for my Planet of Junk diorama...

This is a bird's eye view of the base. This is definitely not done.

Then here are sections that will be hanging down from the bottom of the front edge.
These are finished and ready to go.

Tons of carving, lots of painting. Probably my most involved, detailed scene I've done so far.
Unfortunately, with taking a new teaching gig in a new district (which is an awesome move for me and my family), my summer break basically ended over week ago.
Meaning, this diorama is being put on the back burner of the back burner.

I'm not really trying to take this thread off topic... At some point I'll add a personal collection thread to that forum.

Not of topic, Its 86 related. But definetely very good looking so far. Maybe you can add in some junkion emergin from the ground?