The Energon Pub

I got lucky by randomly looking at my phone and saw something about the preorder. Initially i got mine preordered on TFSource, but was able to secure a preorder through Hasbro Pulse. I will keep both preorders for now..
If by chance the preorders sell out across all the sites and someone is wanting this, pm me. We can discuss further.

SGM

What Prime is that under bumblebee?

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

A DAMN MASTERPIECE !

Sabrblade wrote:

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different, The ears don’t look as wide

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different

The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different

It's wearing the severed head accessory that comes with Comic Edition Shockwave.

Still not sold on the backpack, it's too big and ugly. Wish they could have at least given it a vague jetpack shape or something other than a pile of randomly shaped folded panels. I'm a little concerned about the size, I know a lot of people wanted a taller Prime, but this feels maybe too tall. I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small.

Anyone want to share the Amazon pre-order at least? Even if it's sold out we can still wish list it or have it in our Amazon browsing history. Nevermind, Death posted it in the preorder thread: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 283&sr=8-1

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small.

The thing about Ultra Magnus that a lot of people don't realize is that he was a size-changer in the cartoon. Not as extreme as Megatron and Soundwave were, but when he transformed, he shrank when going from vehicle to robot mode. His truck cab was equal in size and shape to Optimus's, and his car carrier trailer was about the same size as Optimus's trailer; both of which were big enough to carry some of their smaller Autobot Car comrades. But in robot mode, the entirety of Ultra Magnus's combined cab-and-trailer robot mode was only a head taller than Optimus's cab-only robot mode.

So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

Evan has previously said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would likely just be a redeco of Siege Astrotrain, indicating that they care more about Astrotrain's robot mode scale instead (likely wanting to keep him and Blitzwing the same/similar height).

I love my ER Prime, but ooooooohhhhh this one fixes literally every single problem I had with that mold. I wonder if they'll do a single release like they did with Netflix OP.

the backpack is horrid, just as much as the mp-44 was. but the rest of it is spectacular imho. and not ridiculously overpriced for what you get. consider me sold.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

So you want a toy that can Transform into a bot the equivalent size of Megatron, but can form a space shuttle big enough for SS86 Devastator to fit in it as well as almost the entire Decepticon cast? Yeah...laws of physics called...quoting Scotty...

Razorbeast88 wrote:

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different

The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave

Thanks! My apologies for not reading the post.

TK415 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?

The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different

The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave

Thanks! My apologies for not reading the post.

No worries! I don't always read myself, sometimes it's difficult to find the time and it's easier to just ask

Pre-ordered mine on BBTS. He may not be perfect, but I still say they knocked it out the park.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small.

The thing about Ultra Magnus that a lot of people don't realize is that he was a size-changer in the cartoon. Not as extreme as Megatron and Soundwave were, but when he transformed, he shrank when going from vehicle to robot mode. His truck cab was equal in size and shape to Optimus's, and his car carrier trailer was about the same size as Optimus's trailer; both of which were big enough to carry some of their smaller Autobot Car comrades. But in robot mode, the entirety of Ultra Magnus's combined cab-and-trailer robot mode was only a head taller than Optimus's cab-only robot mode.

So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

In a line that prides itself in bot scale, the form I'm going to display him in, I'd rather they stuck with that over a play feature. CC UM and Prime are now in their own scale that doesn't really fit with anything else.

Emerje

Going to pre-order in-store at Gamestop. Says it's unavailable but they are still taking open orders.

https://www.gamestop.ca/Toys-Collectibles/Games/924348

-Crossfire- wrote:I love my ER Prime, but ooooooohhhhh this one fixes literally every single problem I had with that mold. I wonder if they'll do a single release like they did with Netflix OP.

I really want to do a four-pose diorama recreating the blast-off, transform, flip, and land-and-shoot. I can't justify buying four of these guys at this price point, and what am I going to do with three extra trailers? A single-figure release without the trailer would be amazing.

First-Aid wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

So you want a toy that can Transform into a bot the equivalent size of Megatron, but can form a space shuttle big enough for SS86 Devastator to fit in it as well as almost the entire Decepticon cast? Yeah...laws of physics called...quoting Scotty...

Hell yeah!

And to complete the set, a Megatron that is the normal size in bot mode, but he can transform into a gun that can be held normally by other Generations figure.

So, how to make such robots happen in real life?
Easy:

Oh man, this Optimus looks just perfect... It's 10/10. The only way to make him better I can think of is 5mm ports inside the trailer, to make it a bit more functional, and the jetpack he stole borrowed from Sideswipe and used in a few episodes, but that's it. The back pack doesn't seem that egregious to me either, it's just two or so flat panels on top of each other, very tidy affair it looks like. Optimus did have a sort of backpack in the character model anyway. I really hope I can eventually get my hands on this one, he looks amazing.

I don't think the backpack is that bad.
Sure, it does stick out from the torso more than it should. Probably twice as much...
But I still don't think it totally ruins the profile silhouette.

In terms of the scale, this Optimus is on point. He's supposed to be much larger than the vast majority of other Autobots, minus a few exceptions; Blaster and Springer come to mind. I can totally admit my prediction about SS86 Springer's size was wrong... I thought he would end up being much closer to this CC Prime.

I don't think the Dinobots are too small. In fact, this new Prime looks like he'll be close to Swoop's height, and that's good imo.
Now, Ultra Magnus is too big. Probably close to a couple inches too tall, and his shoulders are too broad. But it's all understandable-- making the bot mode smaller would've made the trailer shorter and narrower. And that would have been annoying if a CC version was still too small to adequately hold/transport other vehicles.

I just really hope Hastak has cooked with the SS86 Megatron figure.
My expectations were already high, but now seeing CC Prime, along with the Siege Megatron mold being completely worn-out...
This new version needs to be completely on point.

This is glorious. The color, the proportions, he's excellent.
Yes backpack is a bit big but he's definitily an improvement over Earthrise Optimus.
And I considered that the ultimate Optimus that was possible for a mainline figure.

So, excellence, I do hope he's not a rubic's cube otherwise he will always get shot down in mid transformation.

I might get him. I'll wait for the in-hand reviews before committing. Now... we wait for Megatron.