The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

Issac could have found the capsule it was contained in and took it off Megatron, where it opened some time later.

But he didn't do this.

If he had taken it off of/out of Megs' head, then he would've known hown how it got in his lab. BUT, he said that he just found it in his lab and didn't know how it got there.

Who says Sari started out as a baby, or that protoforms grow at the same rate as humans. Puberty was one big leap remember?

That still doesn't add up. She was already on Earth alive and kicking way before the warship ever even reached Earth.

[Dead Metal]

Issac could have found the capsule it was contained in and took it off Megatron, where it opened some time later.

But he didn't do this.

If he had taken it off of/out of Megs' head, then he would've known hown how it got in his lab. BUT, he said that he just found it in his lab and didn't know how it got there.

Who says Sari started out as a baby, or that protoforms grow at the same rate as humans. Puberty was one big leap remember?

That still doesn't add up. She was already on Earth alive and kicking way before the warship ever even reached Earth.

And to add to that, the children that visit her birthday are annoyed to go there every year.

[Shadowman]

Who says Sari started out as a baby, or that protoforms grow at the same rate as humans. Puberty was one big leap remember?

Because when they showed the protoform, it looked a lot like a baby, in fact it was much, much smaller than any of the other protoforms.

If I recall, wasn't there a flash of light just before Issac found the capsule? And doesn't it stand to reason that the Nemesis would make a bunch of transwarp jumps in an attempt to find the Autobots and the AllSpark? And we've seen how utterly random those can get. (In Beast Wars it took the Axalon and the Darksyde 4,000,000 years into the past) So doesn't it stand to reason that one protoform was knocked loose, fell through one of the gaping holes in the ship, and ended up on Earth years before the Nemesis?

[Tekka]

Who says Sari started out as a baby, or that protoforms grow at the same rate as humans. Puberty was one big leap remember?

Because when they showed the protoform, it looked a lot like a baby, in fact it was much, much smaller than any of the other protoforms.

If I recall, wasn't there a flash of light just before Issac found the capsule? And doesn't it stand to reason that the Nemesis would make a bunch of transwarp jumps in an attempt to find the Autobots and the AllSpark? And we've seen how utterly random those can get. (In Beast Wars it took the Axalon and the Darksyde 4,000,000 years into the past) So doesn't it stand to reason that one protoform was knocked loose, fell through one of the gaping holes in the ship, and ended up on Earth years before the Nemesis?

This is a sound theory.

[Sabrblade]

If I recall, wasn't there a flash of light just before Issac found the capsule?

That "flash of light" was still present when he entered the room. It wasn't the kind of light that accompanies a transwarp occurance, it was the light that the capsule was emitting to make itself glow. When he touched it, the protoform itself began to glow brighter than the capsule and shocked Sumdac. After the shock knocked him away and onto the floor, the protoform quit glowing but the capsule remained glowing on its own.[/quote]

And doesn't it stand to reason that the Nemesis would make a bunch of transwarp jumps in an attempt to find the Autobots and the AllSpark? And we've seen how utterly random those can get. (In Beast Wars it took the Axalon and the Darksyde 4,000,000 years into the past) So doesn't it stand to reason that one protoform was knocked loose, fell through one of the gaping holes in the ship, and ended up on Earth years before the Nemesis?

This doesn't work out as, at the time, the Decepticons didn't have transwarp technology. It was exclusively used by the Autobots, as they were the ones who had the space bridge networks, instead of the Decepticons.

[Shadowman]

And doesn't it stand to reason that the Nemesis would make a bunch of transwarp jumps in an attempt to find the Autobots and the AllSpark? And we've seen how utterly random those can get. (In Beast Wars it took the Axalon and the Darksyde 4,000,000 years into the past) So doesn't it stand to reason that one protoform was knocked loose, fell through one of the gaping holes in the ship, and ended up on Earth years before the Nemesis?

This doesn't work out as, at the time, the Decepticons didn't have transwarp technology. It was exclusively used by the Autobots, as they were the ones who had the space bridge networks, instead of the Decepticons.

Yes, but, again, couldn't the Decepticons have used the Spacebridge?

[Dead Metal]

And doesn't it stand to reason that the Nemesis would make a bunch of transwarp jumps in an attempt to find the Autobots and the AllSpark? And we've seen how utterly random those can get. (In Beast Wars it took the Axalon and the Darksyde 4,000,000 years into the past) So doesn't it stand to reason that one protoform was knocked loose, fell through one of the gaping holes in the ship, and ended up on Earth years before the Nemesis?

This doesn't work out as, at the time, the Decepticons didn't have transwarp technology. It was exclusively used by the Autobots, as they were the ones who had the space bridge networks, instead of the Decepticons.

Yes, but, again, couldn't the Decepticons have used the Spacebridge?

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

That still doesn't add up. She was already on Earth alive and kicking way before the warship ever even reached Earth.

Excuse me???

That Warship crashed 50 years ago when the Autobot ship crashed.... didnt it???

[Shadowman]

That still doesn't add up. She was already on Earth alive and kicking way before the warship ever even reached Earth.

Excuse me???

That Warship crashed 50 years ago when the Autobot ship crashed.... didnt it???

Nope. Watch Transform and Roll Out. The Nemesis didn't show up until Part 2, fifty years after the Autobots crashed on Earth.

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

You don't need to know how to build something to use it. Do you know how to make a car from scratch, or computer, or a TV? But you still use them.

[Sabrblade]

That still doesn't add up. She was already on Earth alive and kicking way before the warship ever even reached Earth.

Excuse me???

That Warship crashed 50 years ago when the Autobot ship crashed.... didnt it???

No it did not. It was seen again until the end of "Transform and Roll Out, Part 2" when Starscream was still on it saying he was searching for 50 years for the AllSpark. And was still in space.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-kBwSIRMoE

[Sabrblade]

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

You don't need to know how to build something to use it. Do you know how to make a car from scratch, or computer, or a TV? But you still use them.

What he means is that they didn't have one to use.

[Shadowman]

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

You don't need to know how to build something to use it. Do you know how to make a car from scratch, or computer, or a TV? But you still use them.

What he means is that they didn't have one to use.

They had one set up in a random asteroid field. It can be assumed that there are more scattered around.

[Dead Metal]

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

You don't need to know how to build something to use it. Do you know how to make a car from scratch, or computer, or a TV? But you still use them.

What he means is that they didn't have one to use.

They had one set up in a random asteroid field. It can be assumed that there are more scattered around.

Which would be the first one they have ever seen in their life at close range. Tell me could you use a TV, a car or a computer if you have no knowledge of how to operate them? You have to bee shown and tought first by someone who knows how to.

[Sabrblade]

How? they had no idea how to even make one, let alone use it.

You don't need to know how to build something to use it. Do you know how to make a car from scratch, or computer, or a TV? But you still use them.

What he means is that they didn't have one to use.

They had one set up in a random asteroid field. It can be assumed that there are more scattered around.

That and the others belonged to the Autobots. Plus, the size of the warship was gigantic compared to the size of the space bridge. It wouldn't fit inside the gateway.

Besides, the ship was last seen heading towards a sun when it was last seen fully intact. When it was later seen in Part 2, it was ruined and drifting in space as though it had very little power left. My guess is that it crashed on the moon due to the moon's own G-forces.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Thanks for the reminder guys

[Zarkon619]

As a huge fan of Dinobots since G1.
I can`t stand that we didn`t even saw a battle Dinobots vs Decepticons.When Dinobots refuzed to help autobots in S2 i was almost sure that they would help them later in the series.Shame this never happened imo.
Compared to G1 dinobots i think the animated ones kinda sucked.
They got owned by the twins and they were mostly BA`s puppets.

[Random]

As a huge fan of Dinobots since G1.
I can`t stand that we didn`t even saw a battle Dinobots vs Decepticons.When Dinobots refuzed to help autobots in S2 i was almost sure that they would help them later in the series.Shame this never happened imo.
Compared to G1 dinobots i think the animated ones kinda sucked.
They got owned by the twins and they were mostly BA`s puppets.

With ya on this. I was hoping that when Megs crashed the Lug-clone, the island he was on was the Dinobots island. At some point I was looking for them to come and jump him, but it was not to be.

Sucks. I was hoping for more and was disappointed. I am SO looking forward to SOMETHING in the line of info after Botcon.

[mitchsantona]

As a huge fan of Dinobots since G1.
I can`t stand that we didn`t even saw a battle Dinobots vs Decepticons.When Dinobots refuzed to help autobots in S2 i was almost sure that they would help them later in the series.Shame this never happened imo.
Compared to G1 dinobots i think the animated ones kinda sucked.
They got owned by the twins and they were mostly BA`s puppets.

With ya on this. I was hoping that when Megs crashed the Lug-clone, the island he was on was the Dinobots island. At some point I was looking for them to come and jump him, but it was not to be.

Sucks. I was hoping for more and was disappointed. I am SO looking forward to SOMETHING in the line of info after Botcon.

I think there was a reason they landed there and had to cut it out for time. The Dinobots cowered in fear of the Magnus Hammer in an earlier episode. I was thinking that Prime would command them using the Hammer, and then got their help with defeating a Lugnut Supreme. Maybe the one that was smoking was still online and a Dinobot Lugnut Supreme fight ensued. At the very least, I thought eventually the only way the Dinobots would cooperate was by using that hammer.

[Icicle]

I got the feeling that End Game should have lasted more than 2 episodes. It looked like a ton of stuff got shoved into that last one. And yeah, when they crashed into Dinobot Island, I thought for sure, Grimlock would get into the act. I think, that is what they wanted to do, but just ran low on time. I think the ending was kind of empty that the Autobots victory was pretty much a given. Prowls death however, was kind of like when Obiwan got struck down by Vader, when he became one with the force.
I hope they do make a 4th season. There was just to many loose ends in this one.

[Name_Violation]

this deffinately should have been a 3 parter

[Rodimus2006]

Well if animated dosent get the green light either as a season 4 or as a coninuation as a trilogy like many people are hoping for.

Then I guess we may never get the unanswered questions answered and they are still alot of them that hasnt been answered.

I hope my gut feelings are wrong about the next series I just have that gut feeling that the next series will have nothing to do with animated it will be a new series in a new direction with new characters and a new story plot.

I hope I am wrong and they will continue with the Animated franchise either as a season 4, spin-off or as a trilogy.

But nothing is or will be known until something is officially anounced but what if nothing is announced at Botcon what will that mean for animated.

I dont mean to be negative or sound negative I am just worryied and wish that Botcon would hurry up and get her so we can learn what the crap is going on and what the plan is for the future of transformers.

Will Animated continue on

Or will the next series be new and diffrent

I guess we will find out

So I guess for now all we have is Reveng coming out in June, the re-releases of Generation 1 and I assume re-runs of animated until the next thing of transformers is released whatever that may be.

Also we will have Animated season 3 on dvd like the other 2 were

And I am hoping that Hasbro will make more Ultimate Sets such as Cybertron and Energon were done.

I hope they make some cool announcements at Botcon and let us know what is in store for the fate of Animated and the continuation of the tf franchise.

I look foward to what they have announced and I cant wait to see what they have in store for us and for the future.

For now it is Revenge and re-buying my Generation 1s and getting Revenge on my 360.

So all and all not that bad and I can wait for awhile cause I waited over a year for season 3 so I can wait but hopefully the next wait will not be that long for the next thing in the transformers universe.

Till All Are One

[Rial Vestro]

Did you forget the season 3 Opener and season 2 endings?

The Decepticons could not have used a Space bridge in season 1 even if they knew where one was because even if they could figure out how it works they needed access codes which they didn't have access to till the end of season 2. They had to get access codes from Shockwave just to activate the space bridge that Issac and Bulkhead built. Without the proper access codes the space bridge is compleatly useless.

[oldskooltf]

IF they make season 4 or a "new" named series that continues where animated left off, then here's my wish list:

- More of Rodimus, Hot Shot, Brawn, Ironhide, Red Alert team and Strika, Cyclonus, Spittor, Oil Slick, Blackout team
- The high council electing Optimus Prime as the new "Magnus" and demoting Sentinel
- What happens to Ultra Magnus
- More of Arcee
- More of Perceptor, Alpha Trion, Cliffjumper, and Wheeljack
- The constructicons possibly combining to make devastator and fighting Omega Supreme
- Wreck Gar & Dinobots joining the autobot forces for real
- Soundwave and his minions joining the decepticon forces for real
- Starscream clones given names
- A more in depth explanation of how Sari's protoform ended up in Sumdac Tower

EDIT: forgot to add:
- More of Waspinator & Black Aracnia and possibly make Sentinel become BW Silverbolt and fall in love (again?) with Black Aracnia (like he used to have it for Elita One, apparently)

[Rial Vestro]

IF they make season 4 or a "new" named series that continues where animated left off, then here's my wish list:

- More of Rodimus, Hot Shot, Brawn, Ironhide, Red Alert team and Strika, Cyclonus, Spittor, Oil Slick, Blackout team
- The high council electing Optimus Prime as the new "Magnus" and demoting Sentinel
- What happens to Ultra Magnus
- More of Arcee
- More of Perceptor, Alpha Trion, Cliffjumper, and Wheeljack
- The constructicons possibly combining to make devastator and fighting Omega Supreme
- Wreck Gar & Dinobots joining the autobot forces for real
- Soundwave and his minions joining the decepticon forces for real
- Starscream clones given names
- A more in depth explanation of how Sari's protoform ended up in Sumdac Tower

EDIT: forgot to add:
- More of Waspinator & Black Aracnia and possibly make Sentinel become BW Silverbolt and fall in love (again?) with Black Aracnia (like he used to have it for Elita One, apparently)

Um... You mean become "Animated Silverbolt" don't you? He couldn't possibly become a character from an entirely different series especially when their personalitys are so drastically different. Pluse we allready know Sentinal would never accept Blackarachnia he won't even really addmit that she ever was Elita One. If Sentinal became transorganic he would most likely kill himself.

I'm not sure Hasbro or the fans would want him to be called Optimus Magnus at least not for verry long before going back to what we're use to.

Maybe they could do a spin off series that just focuses on team Rodimus vs. Team Strika. We allready know they're still out there as well as several other Decepticons but I think Team Strika is really the only Decepticon group the characters on the show know still exsist.

[oldskooltf]

- More of Waspinator & Black Aracnia and possibly make Sentinel become BW Silverbolt and fall in love (again?) with Black Aracnia (like he used to have it for Elita One, apparently)

Um... You mean become "Animated Silverbolt" don't you? He couldn't possibly become a character from an entirely different series especially when their personalitys are so drastically different.

Yes... of course... Animated. I said BW Silverbolt so that people wouldn't think "Animated Silverbolt" based off of G1 Silverbolt (the aerialbot). Perhaps I should have said Animated BW Silverbolt. Whatever. Hopefully you know what I mean.

I get your point about Sentinel wanting to kill himself if he became transorganic, but it would be funny (I think) if somehow the genius minds of Animated found a creative story that would make him (Sentinel) become Animated BW Silverbolt (yes... totally different personality, but I think that would make it even more hilarious) and fall (back) in love with Black Aracnia. Anyway... just my random thought. Probably wouldn't work. Just a thought.