The Energon Pub

I'm sorry, there's just so much I don't like about the motormaster mold: facesculpts, the back of the cab where the combiner head sits, the lack of at mold weapon integration, the hips...the only thing it gets right is bulk and colors.

Under-rated but not hated:
UW/CW deluxe airplanes: everyone seems kind of meh about them because of jet-backpack syndrome and hollowness, but the articulation is nice, the characters look really good, and they're really good limbs, especially compared to the street cars.

Generations roadbuster: yeah, clown shoes are bad, but he forms a nice vehicle (it's so sturdy I let the 1-year olds play with it) and I love extensive weapon collections.

RID whatever-the-tiny-size-is grimlock: it's a grimlock that looks like the character in both modes AND has a novel transformation for grimlock.

Hated:
I don't have a lot of experience with a lot of the most hated because I read the opinions and don't get them.

FOC recordicon discs - yes, they're small, inarticulated and flimsy, but they're fun, integrate with the voyager, and the laserbeak and ramhorn molds both transform completely when you drop them on the button.

TR laserbeak - no that's just bad...

Because I wanted more combiner limbs, I bought a loose CW G2 Wildrider and repurposed him as Decepticharge.

Alllllriiiight! So here's mine, then. Keeping in minds, I don't have much of anything outside of CHUG+CW+TR, Prime, RiD2017, Beast Wars, and a few random ones throughout time here and there.


5. Reveal The Shield Lugnut:
- As far as I can tell, there aren't fans that dislike this figure. In fact, I think most fans (that were able to find it) LOVE this figure. But.... We only got it once. That's highly unusual regardless of the quality of the figure, but this figure is AMAZING in both modes AND has a fun transformation.... But we only got it once? Why? I, personally, I think it would have made a really fun Shockwave! I don't know. Make up a new Neo-G1 Decepticon or something? Make some sh!t up? Whatever...


4. Beast Wars Ram Horn:
- When BotCon 2016 was kicking off, I saw some negative feelings toward the original Ram Horn. I gotta say that I don't, personally, understand.

The beetle mode is just as convincing (MORE convincing, in my opinion) than a lot of other Beast Wars alt modes. The transformation is fun. It makes better use than most of the (OVERUSED) animal-head-on-chest-gimmick. AND the bot mode looks great, apart from the inward bending elbows. Plus, he has an AWESOME weapon! And that's coming from someone that would rather most Transformers don't have these accessories.

It's combined form is dumb, though. I DO hate the Tripredacus arms.


3. Classics Ratchet/Ironhide:
- I feel pretty strongly about this one, but I also understand why people don't like this one. This is where priorities come in. I feel like MOST Hardcore fans (the likes of which are here) value a good looking bot mode above all else. That's fine and all. But for me, it is always Transformation. THAT is why I have always loved this mold.

Other than Megatron, I had more fun transforming these guys more than any of the other Classics/Classics 2.0 toys. The back of the vehicle becoming the chest is AWESOME. I think the alt-mode looked just fine. A LOT of panel-lines, sure, but... Oh well. I can get it all looking cohesive enough to (easily) ignore it. Plus, we don't have enough SUVs and Vans. They're Robots in DISGUISE and errbody turns into a damn sports car. Dumb.

The bot mode doesn't look super great, but I never thought it looked bad except for one part. The downward-head syndrome. If the mold didn't have the downward-head syndrome, this would probably be at number 1 on this list.


2. Classics Galvatron:
- A lot of the same as what I mentioned in the Ratchet/Ironhide section. I bought this toy before I saw the movie or the rest of the G1 cartoon, so accuracy to the G1 was not an issue for me. And then I decided that it still isn't an issue. I like the reinvention. I digress. The alt mode was a reasonably good tank. The transformation was pretty fun. ESPECIALLY the cannon/arm. That. Engineering. Was. Genius. Period. I like the look of the bot mode. From the waist up. The legs, and balancing difficulties did always sour the figure for me.


1. Masterpiece Ironhide/Ratchet:
- So... We have a lot of Autobots. Too many if you ask me. But of allllll the Autobot characters to choose from Ratchet and Ironhide are my favorite characters, respectively. When the Masterpiece figures arrived people just eviscerated them. That hurts a little, no matter what, when it's your favorite characters. But the reasons behind it were personally offensive to me.

Butt-tires? Big. F. Deal. In my opinion, this was one of the silliest things to be upset about since BotCon Animated Drag Strip being a femcon. Frankly, the idea that we don't have more robots with butt-tires (whom don't inherently understand what a butt is) seems to be a bit of a short-sight. They STILLLLLL look SO GOOD in bot mode. The alt-modes are BEAUTIFUL. And then the transformation is my favorite of ALL Masterpiece figures. Of all TRANSFORMERS. Period. The way all the pieces fit together is unbelievably satisfying. I wanted them to take the Black Ironhide (that I know they want to release) and release it as a Decepticon under the name Stockade (movie 2007 so-and-so). That is how much I love this figure.

I. Love. This. Figure. And. I. Am. Not. Sorry.

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Honorable Mention

Generations Rattrap
I don't see a lot of hate for this figure among fans, BUT once it FINALLY arrived on shelves (and it DID take a while in my area) they shelfwarmed like crazy. There are things that different people prioritize: Bot mode; Articulation, Alt-Mode; and Transformation. This one hits all the marks as far as I am concerned. Especially (and most importantly to me) transformation. This the most enjoyable beast-transformation I have experience second only to Masterpiece Primal.

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I got a little feisty on that Masterpiece one. I don't mean to pick fights. I have wanted to get that all of my chest for a bit, now, though.

Pretty good list.

I love the MM mold in all it's forms, and I like the torso mode just fine.

When Will first mentioned this list, I thought for sure Beast Machines Tankor would make it and not be just a HM.

Burn wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:My list certainly has more controversy, that's for sure.

Post it! Cobotron hasn't had anything to do, it's time he doused a good flame war.

I can start my own flame wars thank you very much.

Watch!

My list:
1 - 5
The entirety of the Beast Machines Line!


P.S. D.Finishline, That list doesn't seem so controversial. Is Ram Horn really all that hated?

Top 5 bravest Seibertron posts of 2017:-

1-5

Cobotron wrote:I can start my own flame wars thank you very much.

Watch!

My list:
1 - 5
The entirety of the Beast Machines Line!

Oh. and this.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Butt-tires? Big. F. Deal. In my opinion, this was one of the silliest things to be upset about since BotCon Animated Drag Strip being a femcon.

So agree!

Kiss it haters!

Cobotron wrote:Pretty good list.

I love the MM mold in all it's forms, and I like the torso mode just fine.

When Will first mentioned this list, I thought for sure Beast Machines Tankor would make it and not be just a HM.

Burn wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:My list certainly has more controversy, that's for sure.

Post it! Cobotron hasn't had anything to do, it's time he doused a good flame war.

I can start my own flame wars thank you very much.

Watch!

My list:
1 - 5
The entirety of the Beast Machines Line!


P.S. D.Finishline, That list doesn't seem so controversial. Is Ram Horn really all that hated?

I wouldn't have thought so, but I seem to recall more than one comment along the lines of 'Ram Horn still getting the crap mold etc.' I DO kinda of hate the CW mold he got stuck with, though... :/

P.S. Stole the GIF with gusto.

Cobotron wrote:My list:
1 - 5
The entirety of the Beast Machines Line!

Beast Machines had some awesome designs in it. I will say the only BM toy I own is Nightscream, who is...not very good, but overall I think the line is a hidden gem.

One thing I do think, mind you, is that the monstrous designs of the Maximals really lend themselves better to villains than heroes. Some of those designs were freaky in all the right ways. Cheetor stands out in particular with his Xenomorph-esque body shape. I kinda want to get Cheetor, but I don't know if there's a stand that would support him.

P.S. D.Finishline, That list doesn't seem so controversial. Is Ram Horn really all that hated?

From what I know of Tripredacus, Ramhorn really got the short end of the stick out of the Tripredacus set. Due to being mostly arm gubbins, he's very, very back-heavy and a bit gimpy in robot mode. His beetle mode is amazing though, and he makes a fine (if somewhat inhuman) set of arms.

I really want Tripredacus. He looks like such a cool toy, both separated and combined.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:P.S. Stole the GIF with gusto.

Good! Spread that gif around the interweb like a cold virus at a preschool!

I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

Cobotron wrote:My list:
1 - 5
The entirety of the Beast Machines Line!

It had some good figures.

Mostly (Fat) Tankor.

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

To an earlier comment, titanium Rodimus would be fantastic if it was all plastic.

I like the MP Tracks mold as well; Road Rage is the only MP I have and I love her. But since she's the only MP I have I don't feel I can really make a fair comparison and say whether or not she is as good as she should be or where she stands in the MP rankings or yadda yadda. I just know I like her.

Since it was mentioned I guess I also wanna say I do like CW Brawl a bit more than most. Don't get me wrong, still easily one of the worst molds in CW; but he's not a terrible figure and the lack of stomach doesn't look that bad to me. Definitely not a great figure, definitely should have been a lot better than he turned out, but I don't hate him.



Also, screw it, talking of CW deluxes; let's stir this up again. ALPHA BRAVO IS AN AMAZING FIGURE AND ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST USE OF THE HELICOPTER MOLD

Burn wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

In all likelihood, there is. The man bought a Sixshot and the boxset with his repaint in it at the same time. worse yet, he said he liked Nautica!!!

We may need to schedule him a head exam

Cobotron wrote:Oh. and this.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Butt-tires? Big. F. Deal. In my opinion, this was one of the silliest things to be upset about since BotCon Animated Drag Strip being a femcon.

So agree!

Kiss it haters!

People complain and complain alright! Butt flaps (when the character model of UM actually include it) yet no one complains of Grapple's butt flap when his character model does not include it.

As for the butt tires, yeah, people have too much free time in their hands to obsess on.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

In all likelihood, there is. The man bought a Sixshot and the boxset with his repaint in it at the same time. worse yet, he said he liked Nautica!!!

We may need to schedule him a head exam

You already started the therapy by noticing his post.

Kurona wrote:I like the MP Tracks mold as well; Road Rage is the only MP I have and I love her. But since she's the only MP I have I don't feel I can really make a fair comparison and say whether or not she is as good as she should be or where she stands in the MP rankings or yadda yadda. I just know I like her.

Since it was mentioned I guess I also wanna say I do like CW Brawl a bit more than most. Don't get me wrong, still easily one of the worst molds in CW; but he's not a terrible figure and the lack of stomach doesn't look that bad to me. Definitely not a great figure, definitely should have been a lot better than he turned out, but I don't hate him.



Also, screw it, talking of CW deluxes; let's stir this up again. ALPHA BRAVO IS AN AMAZING FIGURE AND ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST USE OF THE HELICOPTER MOLD

The ONLY thing that keeps the Alpha Bravo mold from being my favorite is that the combiner-port-ratchet points are just slightly off. Otherwise, I TOTALLY agree.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

In all likelihood, there is. The man bought a Sixshot and the boxset with his repaint in it at the same time. worse yet, he said he liked Nautica!!!

We may need to schedule him a head exam

I ALSO love the MP Tracks mold. Why do people dislike it?

I am also expecting to like Nautica. Especially since, currently, my favorite of that mold is Blurr and I love that mold.

P.S. Here's some more gasoline for the flame: I like like TR Blurr. Boom.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

In all likelihood, there is. The man bought a Sixshot and the boxset with his repaint in it at the same time. worse yet, he said he liked Nautica!!!

We may need to schedule him a head exam

I ALSO love the MP Tracks mold. Why do people dislike it?

I am also expecting to like Nautica. Especially since, currently, my favorite of that mold is Blurr and I love that mold.

P.S. Here's some more gasoline for the flame: I like like TR Blurr. Boom.

Oh it's not that I don't think I will like Nautica! It's more funny cause of some of the Densh's figure interests and preferences, making this sort of funny

But I think i speak for many when I say blurr is an excellent figure. It was considered my oh so many to be one of the best figures of 2016!

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

Kurona wrote:I like the MP Tracks mold as well; Road Rage is the only MP I have and I love her. But since she's the only MP I have I don't feel I can really make a fair comparison and say whether or not she is as good as she should be or where she stands in the MP rankings or yadda yadda. I just know I like her.

Since it was mentioned I guess I also wanna say I do like CW Brawl a bit more than most. Don't get me wrong, still easily one of the worst molds in CW; but he's not a terrible figure and the lack of stomach doesn't look that bad to me. Definitely not a great figure, definitely should have been a lot better than he turned out, but I don't hate him.



Also, screw it, talking of CW deluxes; let's stir this up again. ALPHA BRAVO IS AN AMAZING FIGURE AND ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST USE OF THE HELICOPTER MOLD

The ONLY thing that keeps the Alpha Bravo mold from being my favorite is that the combiner-port-ratchet points are just slightly off. Otherwise, I TOTALLY agree.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

There's something just not right with you.

In all likelihood, there is. The man bought a Sixshot and the boxset with his repaint in it at the same time. worse yet, he said he liked Nautica!!!

We may need to schedule him a head exam

I ALSO love the MP Tracks mold. Why do people dislike it?

I am also expecting to like Nautica. Especially since, currently, my favorite of that mold is Blurr and I love that mold.

P.S. Here's some more gasoline for the flame: I like like TR Blurr. Boom.

Again. For people to hate a particular mold needs some serious therapy. Tracks isn't exactly bad but either they, the designers were too ambitious or simply lazy.

Tracks' lack of a neck lock (especially Roadrage)

The built in shoulder rockets could have been implemented in a less messy way what with it being a clip on accessory instead of built in. But her, the rest is now "what could have been"

What's wrong with the TR Blurr mold? It's great, especially with the Takara paint apps which makes it shine even more (not literally anyway but you get my "drift")

Ironhidensh wrote:I guess my #1 underrated Transformer would be Masterpiece Tracks. I love this mold, always felt it fit the character perfect. Much better than the crap show that is Inferno.

Thats one hell of a statement, I really dislike that mold and feel it was initially quite overrated in those early reviews. But that toned down since and has now reached the stage where those who like the mold usually speak as if they are in the minority. Which I think is rightfully so
But I really enjoy diversified opinions, its what makes these conversations so fun.

Also, for those asking about PRID Prime, he isnt disliked outright but he is always overshadowed by the FE one and thus seen as a poor man's Prime (quite literally since the FE needed to be imported for a while due to a distribution choice/mishap I will never understand). So he is always compared to the FE one and usually comes up short, and thus ignored. But I am glad to see many have given him a chance and seen how great that mold is.

Will asked me to save a comment from his last list:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:You're not alone, Will. I love the new Jetfire soooo much more than the older one. Seriously, how could anyone prefer the classics one over the T30 one? The classics one can barely move. The Thrilling 30 one has a superior transformation, greater poseability, awesome proportions, and a bitchin face and face mask.

And then, his alt-mode is an actually sleek jet mode, without too much robot kibble hanging off. Amd the head placement? Its only in homage to the original G1 toy. And heck, I even like the secondary cockpit.

That toy is the opposite of CW Brakedown.

Oh! Another one for me to put forward. I can't tell if I'm just extremely optimistic about toys or I'm just naturally inclined towards contraryism, but...

CW Buzzsaw/TR Laserbeak. It's certainly not perfect but he's a really fun little figure and I hate to see people put him in the same category as Ravage. Enjoyable transformation, decent bird mode (with a surprisingly good fanmode) and the size of the phone mode is just completely adorable. I love having him on my desk and fiddling with him every once in a while.

I like TR Ravage and Stripes. Sure the plane mode is crap but they're very fun and posable figures.

steals_your_goats wrote:I like TR Ravage and Stripes. Sure the plane mode is crap but they're very fun and posable figures.

I do find it cute though how the tail becomes a landing gear.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I like TR Ravage and Stripes. Sure the plane mode is crap but they're very fun and posable figures.

I do find it cute though how the tail becomes a landing gear.

Yeah that's a neat little touch