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Megatron Wolf wrote:Yeah that video just made me lose some interest, its nothing but a hoard mode fighting game. If its a $15 download game i may check it out but if their asking for a full $60 im going to say no way. none of their games have been worth the full price. Plus its probably just going to be a repetitive 5 hour long ordeal anyway, they focus to much on combat & not enough on story or environments. Very disappointing

The price was announced with the news of its availability at Best Buy: it's a full price release

Fellow Seibertronian, Shub, has sent us a link to a pretty cool video where Sony interviews the Developer (PlatinumGames) and the Publisher (Activision) of the upcoming Transformers Devastation game which is scheduled to release on October 6 2015.

They address some of the concerns expressed by the community since the game's announcement. They also explain the game mechanics including how to pull off certain moves and expand on the difficulty settings.

Let us know if this changes your mind on the game or gets you even more hyped!

The actual game better be 60 fps like that video.

This is just a severely downgraded version of the ROTF game (Xbox and Ps3 versions)




With just a slightly different combat system that's more focused on melee weapons.




I just honestly don't see this game selling well based on what we have now but I'll give it a chance if more information makes the game seem decent.

william-james88 wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:Yeah that video just made me lose some interest, its nothing but a hoard mode fighting game. If its a $15 download game i may check it out but if their asking for a full $60 im going to say no way. none of their games have been worth the full price. Plus its probably just going to be a repetitive 5 hour long ordeal anyway, they focus to much on combat & not enough on story or environments. Very disappointing

The price was announced with the news of its availability at Best Buy: it's a full price release

...yeah, I'll wait for a price drop.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:This is just a severely downgraded version of the ROTF game (Xbox and Ps3 versions)




With just a slightly different combat system that's more focused on melee weapons.




I just honestly don't see this game selling well based on what we have now but I'll give it a chance if more information makes the game seem decent.

How the hell is it a downgrade? It's an upgraded version, if anything.

whats with all the hate this game looks fun as hell!!!!

Demonology7789 wrote:whats with all the hate this game looks fun as hell!!!!

My thoughts exactly.

SlyTF1 wrote:
How the hell is it a downgrade? It's an upgraded version, if anything.

How?

The only thing this game has going for itself is gameplay and getting the original voice actors.



Everything else is immensely horrible and lacking I'll say my problems with it.



Only 5 playable Autobots and no Decepticons give me a break they don't even have Ironhide in it (its a brawler Transformers game its perfect for Ironhide)


The story also seems very lacking as well it just seems to be a G1 cartoon episode made into a game and I doubt that would be a good enough story for a $60 game.



This is my last post regarding my dislike of the game.

The backgrounds are extremely limited in depth and detail!

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
How the hell is it a downgrade? It's an upgraded version, if anything.

How?

The only thing this game has going for itself is gameplay and getting the original voice actors.



Everything else is immensely horrible and lacking I'll say my problems with it.



Only 5 playable Autobots and no Decepticons give me a break they don't even have Ironhide in it (its a brawler Transformers game its perfect for Ironhide)


The story also seems very lacking as well it just seems to be a G1 cartoon episode made into a game and I doubt that would be a good enough story for a $60 game.



This is my last post regarding my dislike of the game.

The gameplay is all that matters. Most video games only have one playable character. I could play as Optimus Prime the entire time and be completely fine with that. In fact, I only ever plan on playing as Optimus. Maybe Grimlock, when the need arises.

In regards to the story, you haven't heard **** about the story. All you know is the synopsis.

Demonology7789 wrote:whats with all the hate this game looks fun as hell!!!!

Because the game doesn't look "fun as hell" to everyone. To me it looks like a really shallow brawler that's relying more on nostalgia than anything else.

So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

mcfmullen wrote:So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

That is literally the opposite of what I said.

Demonology7789 wrote:whats with all the hate this game looks fun as hell!!!!

Haters will always hate, but just ignore all that stupid hate if they hate it so much then they won't care to buy or play it which means more fire those who do want to play it

Ultra Markus wrote:

Demonology7789 wrote:whats with all the hate this game looks fun as hell!!!!

Haters will always hate, but just ignore all that stupid hate if they hate it so much then they won't care to buy or play it which means more fire those who do want to play it

It also means that the game won't sell and the chances of a sequel are slim to none.

mcfmullen wrote:So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

Yeah, I totally get what you mean but I think its because maybe not everyone is familiar with the company making this. Without exception, every single platinum game ever released was squarely focused on gameplay and gameplay alone. So I dont see the big surprise with this one. They are the masters though, and every single game they make is a gem in terms of gameplay (except Legend of Kora but that was a rush job for the cash). I think this will surprise those who give it a shot. Since gameplay is the most important aspect of a game (to me anyways), I always liked how this company concentrated mainly on that aspect. I might not finish all their games since things do get a bit bland (I will admit that) but I never ever regret playing them.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:
How the hell is it a downgrade? It's an upgraded version, if anything.

How?

The only thing this game has going for itself is gameplay and getting the original voice actors.



Everything else is immensely horrible and lacking I'll say my problems with it.



Only 5 playable Autobots and no Decepticons give me a break they don't even have Ironhide in it (its a brawler Transformers game its perfect for Ironhide)


The story also seems very lacking as well it just seems to be a G1 cartoon episode made into a game and I doubt that would be a good enough story for a $60 game.



This is my last post regarding my dislike of the game.

Amount of playable characters has little to do with gameplay.
No Decepticons has little to do with gameplay.
No Ironhide has little to do with gameplay.
Story has nothing to do with gameplay.
Length has a good deal to do with gameplay.

The game totally doesn't play like ROTF, that was a third persoon shooter. With some strange controls.
This is a third person action game, auto-aim and a lot of melee.

But I agree on your limited amount of playable characters concern. And how they'll keep it fresh for a full priced game.
They didn't talk about upgrades, weapons or anything.
Hopefully the gameplay will be rocksolid and that there'll be
DLC characters not to crazily priced.

Will get the game on release because Transformers

the game honestly looks boring to me as well. i mean i commend the G1 style and it looks very different from the other transformers games ive played but it just doesnt seem very interesting to me.

With only a few months before release, it feels this game may be a cash grab and not the quality we want. I still have high hopes. Just hope it doesn't get too repetitive.

I see they have Bumblebee in relative scale. I wonder if Grimlock will be to scale as well. That would be awesome. I think the whole game hinges on how awesome Grimlock will be.

Could be get new heroes through DLC? Rodimus? Ultra Magnus? Arcee? A What IF? scenario where an Autobot goes bad?

My last concern is transformation. They say they put a lot of effort in it, but haven't shown a whole lot so far. I see Optimus can fire in truck mode, so that's a plus. I'm just hoping that they don't make alt modes an afterthought.

Shadowman wrote:

mcfmullen wrote:So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

That is literally the opposite of what I said.

You said it LOOKS like a shallow brawler. That's not a factual statement and in fact is a statement fully aware of its subjectivity.

In other words, I wasn't referring to you at all.

mcfmullen wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

mcfmullen wrote:So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

That is literally the opposite of what I said.

You said it LOOKS like a shallow brawler. That's not a factual statement and in fact is a statement fully aware of its subjectivity.

In other words, I wasn't referring to you at all.

Right, except here's the issue: I still had justification for hating on it because of the gameplay, not because "that's all it has going for it." So when you said that's the only kind of justification you saw for hating on the game, either you didn't read my post, or you did and somehow failed to understand what I said. Either way, you're now trying to cover that up by saying "That's just your opinion" in a longer, more roundabout way.

Shadowman wrote:Right, except here's the issue: I still had justification for hating on it because of the gameplay, not because "that's all it has going for it." So when you said that's the only kind of justification you saw for hating on the game, either you didn't read my post, or you did and somehow failed to understand what I said. Either way, you're now trying to cover that up by saying "That's just your opinion" in a longer, more roundabout way.

There's a fundamental difference between a statement that says "the gameplay sucks" and "the gameplay looks like it sucks". If you can't make that difference, I suggest you learn English.

Furthermore, there's an even greater difference between "I don't like the gameplay" and "I don't like the game because the best thing about it is the game play".

One's a subjective opinion (yours) and the other is an oxymoron that makes no logical sense.

I'm not covering anything up. I merely pointed out how idiotic of a statement it was and you took offense to it when you weren't even the person who made the comment.

So again, I wasn't talking about you or to you when I made the statement. Drop it.

mcfmullen wrote:Drop it.

I have a better idea: No.

mcfmullen wrote:So far the only justification I see for hating on the game is that all it has going for it is the gameplay.

WHAT?

The only justification? What about the justification I made before you had made this post? Is my opinion not justified? Is it because I used the word "looks" that somehow means I don't actually believe what I said? Moreover, how could you be referring to one specific person when you said "The only justification I see"? Did you only read the one post?

These are questions that need answering.

1) Your post came AFTER.

2) I said I wasn't referring to you SEVERAL TIMES.

3) The English language has words that mean different things. "Looks" is a word describing an interpretation of an observation, not a fact. It is subjective.

4) The game isn't released yet, which means any statements about anything beyond aesthetic are invalid. You cannot claim something is good without having tried it. However, as you said, something can LOOK good or bad by observing it. That doesn't make it true or justified.

5) Only by trying a game can an opinion be justified.

6) Again, I was referring to the oxymoron that is complaining about a game because the gameplay LOOKS good. This is not what you were talking about. So again, I am not talking about you!

7) A game that plays well but looks poor doesn't make for a bad game. It means your subjective taste in superfluous things supersedes your capacity to make assessments based on objective merits.

"Because the game doesn't look "fun as hell" to everyone. To me it looks like a really shallow brawler that's relying more on nostalgia than anything else."

- "Fun as hell" is not a criteria for a good game. Simple fun suffices.
- "looks like a really shallow brawler" is a subjective assumption on something you haven't played for yourself. Furthermore, shallow brawlers can be very fun for those that enjoy them. Again, genre of game has no bearing on whether or not the game is good. For example, I hate Skyrim because I don't enjoy the premise but that doesn't mean I don't recognize it as being a good game.
- Given the FACT that this ties into Combiner Wars and NOT G1 specifically, it isn't relying on nostalgia at all and is reflective on Combiner Wars at large moreso than it is about the game itself.

So drop it.