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[Sabrblade]

Presumably

Yeah, the movie wasn't fully clear on the matter (probably to keep the audience in awe and wonder over the "mysterious" and "legendary" nature of the knights), but it seemed to imply that Optimus was part of the same order of these knights, what with Lockdown both aiming to capture all of the knights (with Optimus among these prized captives of his) and pointing out how Optimus was "built" rather than "born", which to me sounds like that was to mean that Optimus and the other knights were made directly by the Creators themselves rather than born from the AllSpark.

[Deadput]

well I don't have to agree with you either. I notice bay's design are trashy with pieces of metal scribble garbage sticking out. it's ugly and sloppy. too ugly for my liking. it is so unoriginal and uninspiring. plot, shaky action scenes and dialogue included. that is my opinion. whether you accept it or not.

When did I say I was right and you have to agree with me?


I'm stating my opinion the films might not be the best but at the very least they try to be original and they are entertaining one way or another.


Bay doesn't designs the transformers maybe you should find out who does Bay just approves of them to be used in the movies but seriously I rather have the sharp smooth designs then block fat bricks for the millionth time in the 30 years Transformers have existed said designs are not bad but they are boring.


Believe what you want doesn't necessarily mean anything our opinions don't matter at the least no other person on the Earth will ever actually care about our opinions on this.

[Deadput]

Presumably

Yeah, the movie wasn't fully clear on the matter (probably to keep the audience in awe and wonder over the "mysterious" and "legendary" nature of the knights), but it seemed to imply that Optimus was part of the same order of these knights, what with Lockdown both aiming to capture all of the knights (with Optimus among these prized captives of his) and pointing out how Optimus was "built" rather than "born", which to me sounds like that was to mean that Optimus and the other knights were made directly by the Creators themselves rather than born from the AllSpark.

We are probably going to get some answers for this since they have been building it up in AOE.


I remember reading somewhere in an interview or something along the lines on this website that the Dinobots were originally going to debut in this film but Hasbro wanted them in AOE probably because of marketing reasons.


Also I kinda hope that Snarl, Slog, Slash and possibly more Dinobots are in this film maybe not as important characters but as a badass group like most Dinobots are in other continuities.

[Stuartmaximus]

If the Creators are coming to invade Earth, then this could be an Optimus and Megatron/Galvatron "team up" movie like some of the older shows where they had to team up sometimes, since maybe Megatron doesn't want to be back under Creator control the same way as Optimus in AOE.

Not sure Megatron will be the main villain this time even if he doesn't team up, since the promo poster shows Optimus going against something that looks like Predaking.

That, or the Autobots defeat Creators early on and Megatron steals some of their powers or tech.

Erm i dunno if the creators(presumably the Quintessons) are coming to earth!(yet again! or did you not see the start of AOE?) because didn't Optimus fly off(hopefully on his way to Cybertron) at the end of the movie? so surely he'll meet the Quintessons along the way! which would negate the need for them to come to earth.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Presumably

Yeah, the movie wasn't fully clear on the matter (probably to keep the audience in awe and wonder over the "mysterious" and "legendary" nature of the knights), but it seemed to imply that Optimus was part of the same order of these knights, what with Lockdown both aiming to capture all of the knights (with Optimus among these prized captives of his) and pointing out how Optimus was "built" rather than "born", which to me sounds like that was to mean that Optimus and the other knights were made directly by the Creators themselves rather than born from the AllSpark.

I took it as Prime was one of the original knights too, so that was what I was running with. Would make sense too seeing as how he is supposed to be powerful and mighty as he is

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Seibertron.com was given exclusive access to the set of Transformers: The Last Knight and now we bring to you our first set of news in the form of 2 videos taken on set! The first video features the main cast of vehicles, including the Western Star alternate form of Optimus Prime, the Chevrolet Camaro of Bumblebee, the Mercedes of Drift, the Ford Mustang Police car of Barricade, and the towtruck alternate form for Onslaught! The videos feature some close up shots of the different vehicles, and even show Optimus Prime doing a 180 degree spinout! Check out these exclusive videos below, and stay tuned for even more The Last Knight news!

[Rodimus Prime]

That's Megatron? Why isn't he Galvatron?

Because he never was Galvatron. Galvatron is a KSI clone of Megatron.

"Within that manmade prototype I fought, I sensed the presence of Megatron."

"KSI might'a named the body the snappy name a' 'Galvatron', but that's just Megatron reincarnated."

Of course the "presence" of Megatron was there. KSI copied his brain and put it into a body that Megatron himself manipulated the KSI scientists into building. But without his spark, which was stated as a Transformer's soul, Galvatron cannot be Megatron. He himself said during the fight, he did not have a soul. So what happened to Megatron's spark? It was never specifically stated that it was destroyed at the end of DoTM. Prime ripped his head and spine out, and there were a lot of sparks, but that doesn't necessarily mean the spark was destroyed. And if indeed it WAS, then it's impossible for Galvatron to be a sentient reincarnation of Megatron, as a Transformer defines it, because there is no soul present if there is no spark present. So I stand by my statement, Galvatron is NOT actually Megatron, only a copy of him. And the question remains: where is Megatron's spark? We know where the head is. At KSI. Where is the spark?

[Hellscream9999]

Of course the "presence" of Megatron was there. KSI copied his brain and put it into a body that Megatron himself manipulated the KSI scientists into building. But without his spark, which was stated as a Transformer's soul, Galvatron cannot be Megatron. He himself said during the fight, he did not have a soul. So what happened to Megatron's spark? It was never specifically stated that it was destroyed at the end of DoTM. Prime ripped his head and spine out, and there were a lot of sparks, but that doesn't necessarily mean the spark was destroyed. And if indeed it WAS, then it's impossible for Galvatron to be a sentient reincarnation of Megatron, as a Transformer defines it, because there is no soul present if there is no spark present. So I stand by my statement, Galvatron is NOT actually Megatron, only a copy of him. And the question remains: where is Megatron's spark? We know where the head is. At KSI. Where is the spark?

Be cool if they did a 'Spark of Darkness' thing with it

[Seibertron]

Beast Wars Megatron has it. Waiting for Optimal Optimus to come along and fix things any time now.

[Hellscream9999]

Beast Wars Megatron has it. Waiting for Optimal Optimus to come along and fix things any time now.

Here he is to save the day

[JazZeke]

I don't like any of their designs. I never liked Bay's approach from the start. Bayformers is forgettable and it stinks. which it is a shame.

In your opinion.


I like the movie designs since they try to be unique compared to the blocky gundam g1 look I'm getting sick of.


Seriously though wheel feet were some of the best things to come out of there.

Yeah, honestly, wheel feet were a fantastic idea.

Yeah but the movieverse didn't "invent" them.

[Jeddostotle7]

I don't like any of their designs. I never liked Bay's approach from the start. Bayformers is forgettable and it stinks. which it is a shame.

In your opinion.


I like the movie designs since they try to be unique compared to the blocky gundam g1 look I'm getting sick of.


Seriously though wheel feet were some of the best things to come out of there.

Yeah, honestly, wheel feet were a fantastic idea.

Yeah but the movieverse didn't "invent" them.

Well, those are a singular wheel in place of legs, and (in that mode) non-moving treads for feet respectively. Bayverse was kinda the first to think of having normal legs with wheels for feet that act like roller skates.

[Stuartmaximus]

Beast Wars Megatron has it. Waiting for Optimal Optimus to come along and fix things any time now.

Here he is to save the day

Put it in jet mode with the arms forward....and you've got that mode too

[X3ROhour]

It doesn't even matter much.
Michael Bay will frel it all up anyway.

When is he going to go away?

Thing is he tried to leave after DOTM. Hasbro keeps bringing him back.

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[X3ROhour]

I don't like any of their designs. I never liked Bay's approach from the start. Bayformers is forgettable and it stinks. which it is a shame.

In your opinion.


I like the movie designs since they try to be unique compared to the blocky gundam g1 look I'm getting sick of.


Seriously though wheel feet were some of the best things to come out of there.

Yeah, honestly, wheel feet were a fantastic idea.

Yeah but the movieverse didn't "invent" them.

Well, those are a singular wheel in place of legs, and (in that mode) non-moving treads for feet respectively. Bayverse was kinda the first to think of having normal legs with wheels for feet that act like roller skates.

since movie 1s Bonecrusher vs bus roller derby, aahhhhhhh.
there are occasional goodnesses in the din of BOOMs.

[dragons]

Horrid sounds like truck with engine running

[X3ROhour]

1. I sorta like the movie designs but,
2. They seem like they are missing their out casings but...
3. The toys suck.

[KennethAkfaer]

1. I sorta like the movie designs but,

Yeah, I love the Ultron-Meg as well. I love all Megs actually...

2. They seem like they are missing their out casings but...

They were missing their out casings since movie 4...but...

3. The toys suck.

Hastak will bring their out casings back buy giving them..."out casings"



We may see a Aline-Shockwave or a Predator-Scourge

[tffan01]

Megatron is an improvement from the old skeletal design, I never really liked Transformers having gaping holes in their bodies (for example Blackout's legs).

[SlyTF1]

Now, we have Bumblebee:



This is the first design I can honestly say I'm disappointed or underwhelmed by. I liked his AOE design much better. His AOE look is probably the only Bumblebee design in the history of Transformers I've genuinely liked.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Lil undecided on Bumblebee. He's got his old look back just updated to the new car model. While I always liked his general look I really liked his AoE body type a lot too and hoped that would get some more use (I love the Deluxe toy also) Ah well, he still looks cool.

[Kurona]

Well... that sure is a design that exists.
Not entirely sure what else to say. He's... looking a lot like he always does.

[Bronzewolf]

Seibertronians, the official TF5 Instagram has been doing some big reveals lately, sharing almost all of the main cast of Autobots and a few Decepticons, including Megatron himself. Today they've shared one Autobot that we're all familiar with, Bumblebee! He's been the star of the past 4 Bayverse movies, and he returns for the Last Knight with a brand new Camaro alt mode, and a re-vamped robot mode! It doesn't look too different than his previous robot forms, especially his look in Age Of Extinction. However, you can see some different elements from his new Camaro mode now included. He appears to have that retracting battle mask feature, same as his previous incarnations. Check him out below!



Leave your thoughts in the comments, do.you.like this design more or less than his 2010 design? Or his Age Of Extinction design? And remember to keep those optics and audio sensors tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest and greatest Transformers news.

[Tyrannacon]

Looks like an atypical and almost recognizable design for Bumblebee from his previous incarnations in the Bayverse at least. I wonder if they're going to change his look again for his solo movie. Gotta sell those toys.

[camzilla51]

I can see the dressing room now...

"Alright 'Bee, the costume designer wants to go back to your old outfit, it's what the audience knows. I'm thinkin' classic! I'm thinkin' iconic! It's so YOU, baby! Yeah! Okay here's your motivation: you realized that you copied the look of the guy who was trying to be a copy-cat of you, and that's not really a good message for the kids, so you decided to go back to being yourself. BEE yourself, hey that's good... Get marketing on that, make it a hashtag... Oh, forgot to tell ya, we changed your bra again, nbd, you know the drill."