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Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Looking at the comparisions pics in this thread. This X-Transbots wheelie is legends scale & not commander scale.

X-Transbots Hoss Has the over 4 inch tall height & more bulk to be considred a Commander scale toy. While X-Transbots Ollie Is around 3 & 1/3 inch tall,has less bulk & is considered a Legends scale TF toy.

This X-Transbot Legends Wheelie toy is simply not needed. as HasTak has already made a decent Legends scale Wheelie toy for Universe.

His head rises up to their Huffer's chest. Their Huffer is deluxe height so that makes their Wheelie scout class. I have no clue what "commander" class is. I passed on the post DOTM stuff. And legends Wheelie sucks. I have him. He is too small and has no elbow articulation. Legends don't belong in toy stores. They should be the toys for McDonalds Happy Meals. That's how cheap they are.

Commander scale is one of the scale names equivelants of the basics or scouts class.

I have seen over Ten youtube videos reviews on X-transbot Stax.
X-Transbots Stax is not deluxe size,It's Commander scale. HasTak Deluxes are Over Five inches tall. Stax is 4.5 inches so he is Commander scale.

X-Transbot ollie is over one inch shorter than Stax & has less bulk. So Ollie is a Legends scale toy.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Looking at the comparisions pics in this thread. This X-Transbots wheelie is legends scale & not commander scale.

X-Transbots Hoss Has the over 4 inch tall height & more bulk to be considred a Commander scale toy. While X-Transbots Ollie Is around 3 & 1/3 inch tall,has less bulk & is considered a Legends scale TF toy.

This X-Transbot Legends Wheelie toy is simply not needed. as HasTak has already made a decent Legends scale Wheelie toy for Universe.

His head rises up to their Huffer's chest. Their Huffer is deluxe height so that makes their Wheelie scout class. I have no clue what "commander" class is. I passed on the post DOTM stuff. And legends Wheelie sucks. I have him. He is too small and has no elbow articulation. Legends don't belong in toy stores. They should be the toys for McDonalds Happy Meals. That's how cheap they are.

Commander scale is one of the scale names equivelants of the basics or scouts class.

I have seen over Ten youtube videos reviews on X-transbot Stax.
X-Transbots Stax is not deluxe size,It's Commander scale. HasTak Deluxes are Over Five inches tall. Stax is 4.5 inches so he is Commander scale.

X-Transbot ollie is over one inch shorter than Stax & has less bulk. So Ollie is a Legends scale toy.

Not all deluxes are the same height. Take good ol classics bumblebee vs. classics mirage. Same wave, but mirage is taller. So does that make classics bumblebee a scout instead of a deluxe ? Youre too critical over half an inch. Deluxes vary in size and so do the 3rd party figures that are scaled to match hasbro deluxes. If ollie turns out to be the same height as RTS windcharger, how would that make him legends class ?

not buying unless he's leader class!

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Looking at the comparisions pics in this thread. This X-Transbots wheelie is legends scale & not commander scale.

X-Transbots Hoss Has the over 4 inch tall height & more bulk to be considred a Commander scale toy. While X-Transbots Ollie Is around 3 & 1/3 inch tall,has less bulk & is considered a Legends scale TF toy.

This X-Transbot Legends Wheelie toy is simply not needed. as HasTak has already made a decent Legends scale Wheelie toy for Universe.

His head rises up to their Huffer's chest. Their Huffer is deluxe height so that makes their Wheelie scout class. I have no clue what "commander" class is. I passed on the post DOTM stuff. And legends Wheelie sucks. I have him. He is too small and has no elbow articulation. Legends don't belong in toy stores. They should be the toys for McDonalds Happy Meals. That's how cheap they are.

Commander scale is one of the scale names equivelants of the basics or scouts class.

I have seen over Ten youtube videos reviews on X-transbot Stax.
X-Transbots Stax is not deluxe size,It's Commander scale. HasTak Deluxes are Over Five inches tall. Stax is 4.5 inches so he is Commander scale.

X-Transbot ollie is over one inch shorter than Stax & has less bulk. So Ollie is a Legends scale toy.

Not all deluxes are the same height. Take good ol classics bumblebee vs. classics mirage. Same wave, but mirage is taller. So does that make classics bumblebee a scout instead of a deluxe ? Youre too critical over half an inch. Deluxes vary in size and so do the 3rd party figures that are scaled to match hasbro deluxes. If ollie turns out to be the same height as RTS windcharger, how would that make him legends class ?

X-Transbot Wheelie has no bulk & will be under 3 & 3/4 inches tall. This is the height & bulk of most of HasTak's Legends TF toys.

If I had to provide a HasTak Legends Scale toy. that X-Transbot Ollie will wind up being a similar height & bulk. Then it's BH Legends Scale Twinstrike.

Seriously? Arguing over semantics?

(Although, I'm all for some antics... )

I've got that Legends scale Wheelie riding Classics Grimlock. That looks good. But I'd like to keep an eye on this one. I like how it's coming along so far. I might be tempted, depending on price.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Commander scale is one of the scale names equivelants of the basics or scouts class.

I have seen over Ten youtube videos reviews on X-transbot Stax.
X-Transbots Stax is not deluxe size,It's Commander scale. HasTak Deluxes are Over Five inches tall. Stax is 4.5 inches so he is Commander scale.

X-Transbot ollie is over one inch shorter than Stax & has less bulk. So Ollie is a Legends scale toy.

Nope.
I have X-Transbots Krank (Huffer) and he is a very large Deluxe or one of the smaller end of Voyager, just.
With the scaled render which X-Transbots put out, that would make Ollie a definate Deluxe scale.

This is of course if you wanted to place him with your Hasbro deluxe figures. Placing him alongside your Hasbro Leader or MP scaled figures would possibly make him look a little more, in scale!?

I am totally down for this. The only thing that would make it cooler is a Sharkticon tooth necklace.

zodconvoy wrote:I am totally down for this. The only thing that would make it cooler is a Sharkticon tooth necklace.

still waiting for that and his little satchel from some 3rd party, for any Wheelie toy. I'll buy it!

Pre-order up on BBTS:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=XTR10016&mode=retail

Ack, sold in a set. Who's the red guy with the spoiler supposed to be? Price is a bit stiff too. Thinking about it, though...

You gotta buy the Gobot too. BBTS is scared to get stuck with extra stock lol. Good thing I want them both.

Rated X wrote:You gotta buy the Gobot too. BBTS is scared to get stuck with extra stock lol. Good thing I want them both.

Oh, right. I forgot about the Turbo repaint. Too bad the alt mode kinda stinks for Turbo...

I don't want Wheelie. I just want Turbo. I'm buying the set just for him. I wish they'd split em' up so I could just get my Gobots fix.

xyl360 wrote:I don't want Wheelie. I just want Turbo. I'm buying the set just for him. I wish they'd split em' up so I could just get my Gobots fix.

I think...I think you might find a taker for Wheelie.

Are you anywhere near MN, WI, IA, or ND? I might be able to help you out... I'm on the fence about this, mostly because of the asking price... I'm not committing, but there could be interest. And I bet you could find someone else, or if you have an eBay account, you might be able to ultimately get Turbo for less than half the overall cost. Just a thought...

Agamemnon wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I don't want Wheelie. I just want Turbo. I'm buying the set just for him. I wish they'd split em' up so I could just get my Gobots fix.

I think...I think you might find a taker for Wheelie.

Are you anywhere near MN, WI, IA, or ND? I might be able to help you out... I'm on the fence about this, mostly because of the asking price... I'm not committing, but there could be interest. And I bet you could find someone else, or if you have an eBay account, you might be able to ultimately get Turbo for less than half the overall cost. Just a thought...

Hehe, nope, not anywhere near there unfortunately. Yeah, I was thinking of hitting ebay after the release as I expect some Turbos will show up, I just hate risking paying higher aftermarket prices and potential difficulty in finding one should he end up being as popular or more popular than Wheelie (assuming it's possible there are more collectors like me uninterested in Wheelie and very interested in 'Classics' Gobots).

Not interested in set, but I'm liking that Turbo.....

No need for wheelie....

Scaling Transformers is always a topic which makes for (sometimes) interesting debate, but usually gets bogged down with one person(s) opinion going against another, or worse!

I struggle with the various scaling issues Hasbro and now the many 3rd Party companies are throwing at us, but overall try to stick to a fairly logical understanding that a car Transformer should be smaller than a truck Transformer, who should be smaller than an aeroplane Transformer but that ideal is, quite often, thrown out due to the fictions robot height, which of course, should probably, maybe, come first in regards to scale?

Anyway, I have just re-read some of the previous posts regarding Ollie and, once again, touched upon Tsutsukakushi's OCD regarding fractions of inches, but I now guess that T works for the Dept of Measurements!
X-Transbots Krank/Huffer from toe to top of cab is 6 inch, so assuming X-T havent adjusted the height of Ollie and going by their previous render, that would put Ollie at approx 4 3/4 inches.

If anyone wanted to put X-Transbots Ollie alongside their official and/or unofficial 'Masterpiece' scale... [hold up, is 'Masterpiece' even a scale, or just a tidy description of what could be a "highly articulated collectors premium edition"?] ...or should I be using 'Leader' scale, that would put him up to waist height on a MP Seeker!

Aaaaargh, scale!

Which ever way we look at it, this guy will probably look great but does not scale well with collectors current displays?

This is the second time the company behind/that is X-Transbots have put out a 'Wheelie' and the scale keeps getting bigger. Expect Titan Wheelie by 2015!

Well, Wheelie was going to be the new Bubmlebee, right?

If you want a scout class wheelie for your classics collection thats about the same size as smaller igear mini bots, this is perfect. I dunno what to tell you MP guys. Im usually a stickler on cartoon scale, but wheelie being the size of a human was so wrong. He was a car, not a headmaster or targetmaster, so scout scale seems much more appropriate. To have a wheelie the size of an exo suit would be kind of corny for a display of any scale.

he looks awesome. but i have no need for 3rd party MP's.

TFSource has pre-orders for Ollie and Sonic separately, if you're only after one of them.

I'm only buying this if this is 1/1 scale. yes and comes with an inscale exo-suit so I can wear it. =D

Just so everyone know, the figures are available separately on BBTS too, now, at $59.99 each.

mooncake623 wrote:I'm only buying this if this is 1/1 scale. yes and comes with an inscale exo-suit so I can wear it. =D

But 1/1 Exosuit scale isn't 1984 G1 toy scale!

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:I'm only buying this if this is 1/1 scale. yes and comes with an inscale exo-suit so I can wear it. =D

But 1/1 Exosuit scale isn't 1984 G1 toy scale!

Lol you are correct! no sale for me unless it is 1986 Movie and season 3 scale so that means it got to be 11 feet tall? yea... thats 1/1.1232 scale? ahh I'm confusing myself now.. =X