More Images - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Shockwave

His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

Over the years, I've learned not to get too excited over a prototype figure. Looks very promising, but il wait for the final model.

Venoose1 wrote:His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

It would be great because those G1 rubber hoses are mostly split in several parts. A heat-treated very tight coiled srping, but a soft spring, would fix that problem.

Is it me or has there been a flurry of mp releases and/or reveals this year, or Is this normal and I'm just noticing it?

His gun arm has a button-like indent on it. Lights and sounds?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Venoose1 wrote:His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

It would be great because those G1 rubber hoses are mostly split in several parts. A heat-treated very tight coiled srping, but a soft spring, would fix that problem.

I'm betting it's just a temporary thing. I would expect the final release to be rubber.

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:His gun arm has a button-like indent on it. Lights and sounds?

Gawd I'd hope not.

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Venoose1 wrote:His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

It would be great because those G1 rubber hoses are mostly split in several parts. A heat-treated very tight coiled srping, but a soft spring, would fix that problem.

I'm betting it's just a temporary thing. I would expect the final release to be rubber.

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:His gun arm has a button-like indent on it. Lights and sounds?

Gawd I'd hope not.

At least, let's hope it will be a high quality rubber that don't dry out easely.

Also, why so many hope MP Shockwave not have lights and sound? Because the original G1 toy had it and it was great. Very loud and annoying, but great. The arm hose is also part of the electronics. That hand-gun should light pretty bright with a satysfying "PEW PEW PEW". Also, Shock wave should have another button to say phrases. His eye would flash in sinch with his voice. It would be awesome!

I'm also pretty sure they can incorporate electronics without messing the overall design.

ZeroWolf wrote:Is it me or has there been a flurry of mp releases and/or reveals this year, or Is this normal and I'm just noticing it?

I'm thinking Hastak is finally starting to feel the sting of the 3rd party market.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, why so many hope MP Shockwave not have lights and sound? Because the original G1 toy had it and it was great. Very loud and annoying, but great. The arm hose is also part of the electronics. That hand-gun should light pretty bright with a satysfying "PEW PEW PEW". Also, Shock wave should have another button to say phrases. His eye would flash in sinch with his voice. It would be awesome!

I'm also pretty sure they can incorporate electronics without messing the overall design.

I personally detest electronics. They tend to ruin what could be great figures.

That being said, G1 Shockwave did incorporate the electronics well.

BUT ... will it add cost to what will already be a expensive figure?

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, why so many hope MP Shockwave not have lights and sound? Because the original G1 toy had it and it was great. Very loud and annoying, but great. The arm hose is also part of the electronics. That hand-gun should light pretty bright with a satysfying "PEW PEW PEW". Also, Shock wave should have another button to say phrases. His eye would flash in sinch with his voice. It would be awesome!

I'm also pretty sure they can incorporate electronics without messing the overall design.

I personally detest electronics. They tend to ruin what could be great figures.

That being said, G1 Shockwave did incorporate the electronics well.

BUT ... will it add cost to what will already be a expensive figure?

ROTF Leader Optimus Prime have electronics and is considered the defenitive Movie Optimus, and also, one of the best TF ever. It's also true that even in the early 1980's Shockwave's electronics were perfectly well implemented. If the designers are not drunk, they can do a great job with MP Shockwave.

As for incresed costs, it's a moot point. First, it will be a "leader" sized MP and those tend to be expensive from the start. Second, Shockwave don't need extra accessories. No need for detachable guns or trailers. This way, it could be even less expansive than the original MP Soundwave, who came with a cassette. Let's just hope it will have lights and sounds like the original G1 toy and no extra bits. This way, it could cost roughly 12000Y at the very most... or they'll say "fokkit" and gouge the price à-la MP-11 or Asia anything. No matter it's features.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Venoose1 wrote:His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

It would be great because those G1 rubber hoses are mostly split in several parts. A heat-treated very tight coiled srping, but a soft spring, would fix that problem.

I'm betting it's just a temporary thing. I would expect the final release to be rubber.

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:His gun arm has a button-like indent on it. Lights and sounds?

Gawd I'd hope not.

At least, let's hope it will be a high quality rubber that don't dry out easely.

Also, why so many hope MP Shockwave not have lights and sound? Because the original G1 toy had it and it was great. Very loud and annoying, but great. The arm hose is also part of the electronics. That hand-gun should light pretty bright with a satysfying "PEW PEW PEW". Also, Shock wave should have another button to say phrases. His eye would flash in sinch with his voice. It would be awesome!

I'm also pretty sure they can incorporate electronics without messing the overall design.

K

If they ,TT puts voice clips, I'd rather not, 'cause the JP version is waaaaaay opposite in character akin to the JP Starscream sounding like more of a young full of bravado upstart that the geeky high pitch schemer we all love. Corey Burton's Sark is the one true voice for Shockwave.

And ...electronics will hampre his mobility.

Soundblaster was 15800 yen. If he has electronics, which seems more than likely, he'll probably hover around that price. I would say no more than 17000, given Ultra Magnus was 18000.
I'm betting on 14 - 15000 yen.
Then with a 20% discount on preorder.
Hopefully the conversion rate doesn't get too terrible by then.

fenrir72 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Venoose1 wrote:His arm hose (is that what we call it?) looks like it's made out of a very tightly coiled metal spring.

It would be great because those G1 rubber hoses are mostly split in several parts. A heat-treated very tight coiled srping, but a soft spring, would fix that problem.

I'm betting it's just a temporary thing. I would expect the final release to be rubber.

CombaticonsCombine? wrote:His gun arm has a button-like indent on it. Lights and sounds?

Gawd I'd hope not.

At least, let's hope it will be a high quality rubber that don't dry out easely.

Also, why so many hope MP Shockwave not have lights and sound? Because the original G1 toy had it and it was great. Very loud and annoying, but great. The arm hose is also part of the electronics. That hand-gun should light pretty bright with a satysfying "PEW PEW PEW". Also, Shock wave should have another button to say phrases. His eye would flash in sinch with his voice. It would be awesome!

I'm also pretty sure they can incorporate electronics without messing the overall design.

K

If they ,TT puts voice clips, I'd rather not, 'cause the JP version is waaaaaay opposite in character akin to the JP Starscream sounding like more of a young full of bravado upstart that the geeky high pitch schemer we all love. Corey Burton's Sark is the one true voice for Shockwave.

And ...electronics will hampre his mobility.

I'm not so sure that the electronics would hamper his mobility, but having said that I still don't want them. I guess an LED and gun sound wouldn't be horrible, but please, please no voice chip. You're dead on right with the difference in character, but if they have to do a voice chip, I'd rather they relegated it to a stand like previous MPs

Any guesses about accessories? Not much that isn't bolted to the floor or self-propelled.



Wouldn't surprise me if it's the miniature version of his alt-mode that the animator mistook for his gun once. And maybe one of his dome-head robots like MP-21 Exosuit?

Well BBTS & TFSource wasted no time on getting this guy up for pre-order, jeez.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-shockwave/

$174.99

Those wondering about the sounds need not worry. It was said (on one of the sites covering the show) that shockwave will have lights but no sound. That reminds me of MP 1.

Even if that price is correct, he will be worth the $20 extra to get as opposed to Quakewave. I've owned both the G1 figure in mint condition as well as Quakewave. With G1, my only problem was the lower legs. They were too skinny. With Quakewave, they were too thick, and his chest was too short and high. The lower legs of the MP look perfect, though his chest still looks a bit too short. otherwise, MP Shockwave truly is what the line claims: a masterpiece.

As for the barrel detaching in the cartoon, I stand corrected. I did say "IIRC." I guess I didn't.

william-james88 wrote:Those wondering about the sounds need not worry. It was said (on one of the sites covering the show) that shockwave will have lights but no sound. That reminds me of MP 1.

I'm totally cool with that

I wonder if MP Shockwave will be able to hold either WST Shockwave or CW Legends Shockwave like that.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

I wonder if MP Shockwave will be able to hold either WST Shockwave or CW Legends Shockwave like that.

Hopefully he'll come with a miniature version of himself that he and other MPs can hold.

ZeroWolf wrote:Is it me or has there been a flurry of mp releases and/or reveals this year, or Is this normal and I'm just noticing it?

Most definitely, there's been a barrage.... I have done so many pre-orders I am loosing count!

Amelie wrote:Holding my breath here....


.... what if the leg transformation is the basis of a new Megatron?

I can see it.....

We now have a look at his back:




Source: http://snakas.web.fc2.com/

That's a clever way to store the end of the gun's barrel.

Also, yeah, I vote for a mini-shocky accessory!

I wonder if/hope that backpack is detachable in robot mode. Shockwave didn't routinely carry a load on his back in the cartoon.

I guess that answers my question regarding the barrel. I'm with Amelie, his legs might be a trial run for a new Megatron.

Also, not meaning to derail the thread, now that we have Shockwave, is Jetfire in the realm of possibility?
(Kronos is a good figure, but I'd love an official piece.)

It looks nice, but how big is it, standing next to Rodimus it looks a bit on the small size. Also, I have my Quakewave, which is a perfect size for an MP Shockwave and I love the light up eye gimmick. Strange that there's still no update on MP-05 Megatron or an MP Galvatron.

But all that aside, I'll still get it cos I'm a huge fan of Shockwave.

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder if/hope that backpack is detachable in robot mode. Shockwave didn't routinely carry a load on his back in the cartoon.

Yeah but I think its more as an homage to the toy and I am perfectly fine with it:


Transformers G1 1985 Shockwave (Laserwave) Gallery

This really looks like this MP is more of a straight up redo of the toy in better proportions and better articulation. Thats what a lot of people had asked for.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder if/hope that backpack is detachable in robot mode. Shockwave didn't routinely carry a load on his back in the cartoon.

Yeah but I think its more as an homage to the toy and I am perfectly fine with it:


Transformers G1 1985 Shockwave (Laserwave) Gallery

This really looks like this MP is more of a straight up redo of the toy in better proportions and better articulation. Thats what a lot of people had asked for.

Me too. I'm perfectly fine with it. ACTUALLY, now that I think about it, Shockwave was probably one of the most good looking G1 toys, so I'm happy to get an update for him.

Shockwave did have a backpack though, it transformed into the back of the gun.

His lower arms have a peg and hole to connect to each other, but I wonder how the legs will transform to bring them together, considering his 'underpants' and the inner side of his lower legs.

Based on the toy and the animated design, the backpack works out really well for him. Great looking prototype!

Cyberpath wrote:Shockwave did have a backpack though, it transformed into the back of the gun.

After seeing this gif and the original artwork this figure is just about perfect, Wow!

Look, I just need to know how tall it is to start making my ARE ALL DEAD wall.

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder if/hope that backpack is detachable in robot mode. Shockwave didn't routinely carry a load on his back in the cartoon.

What episode. As far as I recall, it was Pat Lee who ditched the backpack.

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder if/hope that backpack is detachable in robot mode. Shockwave didn't routinely carry a load on his back in the cartoon.

What episode. As far as I recall, it was Pat Lee who ditched the backpack.

Looking at the animation models Cyberpath posted, I see now that he did have a backpack, but that it was low enough on the body to not be that noticeable, hence my initial confusion.

"Nerds RULE!" And I'm wearing it as a badge of honor! For such a nerd, Shockwave and the other nerd (FoC referred to the latter as such), Soundwave really has a strong appeal to the fandom.

Only haters hate for the sake iirc when a blog took to denigrating the walking nuclear powered calculator. It's his monocular visage plus the backpack. Really seals the deal on him.

Btw guys, his ominous presence kind of reminds me of a DOM tropen, only the latter is bulkier.

DOM



Shockwave by the late Herb Trimpe



(zat back pack....yummy!)

padfoo wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Shockwave did have a backpack though, it transformed into the back of the gun.

After seeing this gif and the original artwork this figure is just about perfect, Wow!

Wait, do you think he's gonna have a detachable gun barrel? You guys may or may not know how much I hate parts-forming...

SillySpringer wrote:

padfoo wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Shockwave did have a backpack though, it transformed into the back of the gun.

After seeing this gif and the original artwork this figure is just about perfect, Wow!

Wait, do you think he's gonna have a detachable gun barrel? You guys may or may not know how much I hate parts-forming...

It just detaches just like Prime's trailer. Parts formers are like Omega Supreme and Godbomber.

Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

The button in the side of his arm is likely to light up his gun hand in bot mode. It looks funny because it doesn't have the spring in there to make the button pop out. I don't like it, I wish they would have made a section of the arm the button so it would blend in and be more cartoon accurate.

I agree that the barrel is probably hidden in the backpack since it doesn't need to hold a sound box and the batteries can be hidden in the body. His gun hand probably wont be translucent since the eye is and they'd be gang molded, but will likely have an LED in the barrel.

[edit] Just noticed that his eye doesn't light up, it's light piped, the back of his head is clear to let the light through. I HATE light piping, it has no place in a Masterpiece figure where all of the other figures have painted eyes. I realize a flashing eye was his thing on the cartoon, but it's not like MP Wheeljack has flashing ears. So much for perfection.

Emerje

fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?

It does seem like the gun-barrel might unfold from underneath the backpack. Notice the hinge between Shockwave's head and his backpack.

Burn wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?

Acck! If the sound gimmicks are ditched, the better.

But, if using MP as an example, the black pile divers of Lambor is , well kept in the box.

fenrir72 wrote:But, if using MP as an example, the black pile divers of Lambor is , well kept in the box.

ah but they're more of an accessory, they're not needed for either mode.

Gun barrel is a necessity for Shockwaves gun mode.

Maybe they could make the gun barrel convert into some kind of weapon accessory for Shockwave to wield in robot mode, like a giant-sized bazooka or something (even if he didn't have such an item in the cartoon).

Burn wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?

I dont understand, isnt his backpack the gun handle? Why are we thinking it will be the barrel?

And there wont be any sounds, just lights, and I do find those important in an MP like this one. MPs are supposed to be the be all end all versions of figures and since Shockwave was an 80s space gun, I would love it to have some lights for added fun and playability.

fenrir72 wrote:
Acck! If the sound gimmicks are ditched, the better.

They were never there. Anyways, this guy is reported early 2016, I think we are looking at the final prorotypes and the next part is merely colouring. I dont think much will be changed from what Taktom has planned right now when they showed these.

Emerje wrote:I HATE light piping

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Though to early to tell, maybe the gun barrel functions like a mat, detaches and folds around the existing back pack or simply you just put it aside.

I can't imagine they'd do a MP figure and have a part like that set aside. Reeks of laziness.

But I agree, it will become part of the backpack in some fashion. It could even make up the backpack entirely.

If there are lights and sounds, they may just go with the small button batteries rather than large AA batteries to save on space.

Or just ditch it all together, are lights and sounds really important in a Masterpiece figure?

I dont understand, isnt his backpack the gun handle? Why are we thinking it will be the barrel?

And there wont be any sounds, just lights, and I do find those important in an MP like this one. MPs are supposed to be the be all end all versions of figures and since Shockwave was an 80s space gun, I would love it to have some lights for added fun and playability.

fenrir72 wrote:
Acck! If the sound gimmicks are ditched, the better.

They were never there. Anyways, this guy is reported early 2016, I think we are looking at the final prorotypes and the next part is merely colouring. I dont think much will be changed from what Taktom has planned right now when they showed these.

Emerje wrote:I HATE light piping

Emerje

Gaaah.. To lazy to edit.

The backpack is the back of the gun. The handle is the legs. IUf you ever find the G1 toy in the wild, being Sockwave or the black Shackwave, take it. It's engeneering on par with G1 Jetfire.

Burn wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:But, if using MP as an example, the black pile divers of Lambor is , well kept in the box.

ah but they're more of an accessory, they're not needed for either mode.

Gun barrel is a necessity for Shockwaves gun mode.

That then or make the barrel collapsible or wrap around to his back pack. The possibilities in my opinion is limited to 3.

1.Kibble
2.Wrap around the back pack
3.A mini torture/laboratory set (Shocky is a scientist, at least that's how his bio was fleshed out.