Takara Tomy Transformers Combiner Wars Also Arriving in 2015

Japanese text: Gattai Senshi = Combine(r) Warrior

Do you reckon Takara will do Slingshot as an exclusive repaint like they did with Stinger?

Hmmm already having the Hasbro version, I probably won't buy into an entire combiner, but if one or two figures have a clearly superior deco I might bite

None of the silhouettes look like Dragstrip, so it looks like they'll be getting full teams in a wave.

Then again, none of the silhouettes look like Alpha Bravo either.

Left leg is Skydive, Right leg is Air Raid, Left arm looks like Firefly (can clearly identify his gun pegged into the back of the wing, and the Right arm, is a bit mishmashy, but it looks like the forearm is also firefly, you can see the tailfin folded up just above the wrist. You can also just see the barrel of *another* Firefly rifle next to Superion's head, as though it's symmetrically plugged into the back of the wing on that side too. If that's a firefly repaint as slingshot, they're in the correct positions to line up with a G1 Box-Art and G1 series accurate Superion.

Pinch of salt, though, as it could just be a placeholder configuration for the teaser with 2 fireflies.

Remember when I crapped on these toys? Yeah, I take it back. They're fun. I enjoy them. Great line for collectors. I haven't seen the local crew around here this stoked and out on the hunt for official product in a very, very long time.

ScottyP wrote:Remember when I crapped on these toys? Yeah, I take it back. They're fun. I enjoy them. Great line for collectors. I haven't seen the local crew around here this stoked and out on the hunt for official product in a very, very long time.

Yeah, and my deluxes still smell funny. After cleanng them off though, I've found that they sure are a lot of fun.

Fan edit of the silhouette to remove the "Gattai Senshi" Kanji (source):

Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Sabrblade wrote:Fan edit of the silhouette to remove the "Gattai Senshi" Kanji (source):

Why does he have two of the same limbs for arms?

Metro Prime wrote:Why does he have two of the same limbs for arms?

Because there only exist three jet limb molds? Alpha Bravo's not in this.

If Takara makes a Slingshot, it'll more than likely be made from one of the other three jet limbs, unless Hasbro has secret plans for a new Slingshot mold further down the line.

Mkall wrote:Got 4/5ths of Superion a couple days ago. I gotta say it's the most fun I've had with a combiner in years.

I don't have any of them in hand yet. They are, however, the most excited I have been for retail product in years. That coming from someone who really doesn't care about Superion all that much. I think it's far past time these guys got their due though. The deluxes all look great on their own from the photos. I'm very curious to see what Takara do for their releases. I wonder who is gonna let the first images of devastator slip.

Thanks for the tip
on Dragstrip!

Just got Powerglide and leg joints will definitely be a problem at elbows. Maybe some plasti dip would tighten them up?

Of course there is a hole in the umm...elbows. Maybe a 3rd party will make something that fits and makes it a ratchet joint.

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Yup. These guys are fun. Like, super fun. Amazingly super fun.

I just need Silverbolt...

megatronus wrote:I just need Silverbolt...

Hey! thats the name of my new club. Wanna be in it?

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

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Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?

Optimizzy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

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Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?

We can only assume those were the original plans. Like many pretools (pre-planned retools), the alternate head was visible in the original's instructions, in this case Scourge's, but ultimately not used. Nowadays a good majority of molds have alternate parts, making the overall process more efficient.

I'd give a total list, but it's really long.

I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

Gearslide wrote:I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

Or use Alpha Bravo's head...

Agamemnon wrote:

Gearslide wrote:I feel like you could stick Air Raid's head on Fireflight's body, and with a good enough paint job, you'd have a snazy Slingshot toy.

I'm kinda hoping that's what Takara does. If they ARE bringing Slingshot back.

And if they DO that, I wonder if they'll bring back Wildrider for their Menasor set.

Or use Alpha Bravo's head...

...Alpha Bravo has both a visor and a mouth plate. And G1 Slingshot has never had either of those things as far as I know. Although he did have "Aviators" of a sort in the G1 cartoon.

Air Raid's head has a similar face, head shape, and even the "rounded top" that Slingshot's has.

I can totally see Hasbro and Takara making wild rider and slingshot eventually. They seem to be pushing the "scramble city" angle and more variety will help with that.

To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.

Tyrannacon wrote:To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.

preorder from BBTS or TFsource. you can cancel at any time with BBTS, and any time before release with TFsource

shajaki wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:To pre-order the Takara Tomy version of Megatron or to wait and see what the Hasbro one holds. Oh decisions.

preorder from BBTS or TFsource. you can cancel at any time with BBTS, and any time before release with TFsource

I may just do that. I've been looking forward to this incarnation of Megatron for months, I want to make sure I get him to put him in my shrine.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Takara's Superion would be much better. When it comes to paint and details most likely. Plus, I think Takara may make their own combiners. How about a Dinoking?

Takara never made any new molds for their counterpart lines to Hasbro's Classics, Universe, and Generations lines (Henkei! Henkei!, United, Generations, and Legends all used existing molds).

Not new molds, but they have done remolds like Ratbat and Cloud Brawn so maybe an entirely new figure is out of the question, but remolding an existing jet isn't.

Emerje

Ratbat and Cloud Brawn are both based on pre-existing tooling that originally went unused: Ratbat used the Gen. Scourge mold's alternate head (alternate meaning it's "built into the mold" like the regular head), and Brawn is based on the canceled "GDO" release.

.

Was scourge the. Designed to be re-tooled into rat bat and at some point it was canceled stateside?

We can only assume those were the original plans. Like many pretools (pre-planned retools), the alternate head was visible in the original's instructions, in this case Scourge's, but ultimately not used. Nowadays a good majority of molds have alternate parts, making the overall process more efficient.

I'd give a total list, but it's really long.

So what you're saying is that there's a possibility of the Firefly mold including a proper Slingshot head mold.

I didn't realize the Ratbat head appeared in the directions for Scourge. I don't read instructions.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I didn't realize the Ratbat head appeared in the directions for Scourge. I don't read instructions.

Straight from Scourge's instructions.

megatronus wrote:Yup. These guys are fun. Like, super fun. Amazingly super fun.

I just need Silverbolt...

Agreed. I haven't been this excited for Hasbro releases in quite some time!

Emerje wrote:So what you're saying is that there's a possibility of the Firefly mold including a proper Slingshot head mold.

Basically, yes. Now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if, given the G1 Aerialbot limbs all transform the same way, we'll end up with two pairs of pretools: Skydive with Air Raid, and Firefly with Slingshot/Quickslinger/the dead one. Firefly using the Harrier instead of his regular F-4 Phantom form (similar as they are) leads to some credence to that. All he'd need is some new wings and a new head.

Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Remember seeing pics of CW Powerglide and maybe pics of CW Bombshell with 3rd targetmasters modes.

Just wondering if CW Legends Thundercracker and CW Legends Windcharger also have 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.

Also wondering if all future CW Legends waves with have toys with 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Remember seeing pics of CW Powerglide and maybe pics of CW Bombshell with 3rd targetmasters modes.

Just wondering if CW Legends Thundercracker and CW Legends Cliffjumper also have 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.

Also wondering if all future CW Legends waves with have toys with 3rd Targetmasters modes or not.

I don't think Bombshell has a 3rd mode. Unless I've totally missed it!

And I take it you mean Windcharger? Don't have him but I don't think he has a 3rd mode either. I think it's only Powerglide.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.

The upcoming blackjack will become Menasor's chestplate, so those that have third modes are less "Targetmaster" modes and more "Combiner Accessory" modes.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

Thanks for the info, Been wondering this answer for while. Should have posted this reply weeks ago.

The upcoming blackjack will become Menasor's chestplate, so those that have third modes are less "Targetmaster" modes and more "Combiner Accessory" modes.

The ones that have official third modes are called out as such on their packaging: "Combine to form". Compare Bombshell:



with Autobot Powerglide:



With that, the images with the Legends on Optimus Prime's chest are just people fooling around. The Japanese are especially known for that.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

But both thundercracker and windcharger can be attached to the torso made by the Optimus/Motormaster mold, though tat is not official.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Do all the CW wave One legends toys have a 3rd alternate Targetmasters mode?

Powerglide does. Bombshell can be configured into one, whether it's official or not. Thundercracker and Windcharger are preexisting molds that do not.

But both thundercracker and windcharger can be attached to the torso made by the Optimus/Motormaster mold, though tat is not official.

I thought those pegs on Bombshell's butt were pretty clearly pegs to hold him as a weapon. But, indeed, it doesn't say anything on the package. And when I just tried it now, the pegs are a tad undersized and slop around in the combiner fists. Perhaps that was the original intent and the tolerances were off preventing it from fitting well, so they scrapped the marketing on it...

Or maybe we'll see something in the Motormaster instructions...

Agamemnon wrote:Or maybe we'll see something in the Motormaster instructions...

Nope, Superion has Powerglide, Menasor has Blackjack. Bombshell is stand-alone for now despite being a new mold.

New development on the Devastator rumor.

I couldn't see any data regarding this in this thread so, from a friend that works at TRU in Canada:
Transformers Generations Devastator
List price $179.99 (Canadian)
SKU 198274
So looks like Devy may be titan class after all? (or just smaller and given an outrageous markup )
He said there was also a listing for the Insecticons as a platinum set for $99.99 (good grief)

Note: We know the Platinum Edition Insections set is real, at least.

Also, $180 Canadian dollars is roughly $150 U.S. dollars.

I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.

Sabrblade wrote:New development on the Devastator rumor.

I couldn't see any data regarding this in this thread so, from a friend that works at TRU in Canada:
Transformers Generations Devastator
List price $179.99 (Canadian)
SKU 198274
So looks like Devy may be titan class after all? (or just smaller and given an outrageous markup )
He said there was also a listing for the Insecticons as a platinum set for $99.99 (good grief)

Note: We know the Platinum Edition Insections set is real, at least.

Also, $180 Canadian dollars is roughly $150 U.S. dollars.

We're aware of this, but are currently trying to use our own resources to confirm this.

Mindmaster wrote:We're aware of this, but are currently trying to use our own resources to confirm this.

Got it.

Not asking for a news post (since I don't recall the original Devastator rumor getting one), just helping to keep us up-to-date on the rumormill.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.

Ouch, that would mean roughly US$300 for the set, more or less depending on who you buy from. I'll take my chances with Hasbro even if I have a pretty low success rate getting exclusives I want from TRU.

On the other hand, US$150 seems a little too good for Hasbro at US$25 a figure. I'll believe it when I see it, but I have a feeling they'll be the same as the Canadian price.

Emerje

Actually a devastator would make sense. I just can't see Hasbro starting the year with all the Aces they're holding without a bigger summer release.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.

ehm, so generations figures in the MP line? or are they going to be actual MP's ? because there's a big difference in aesthetics and details between those 2 lines.

do note, i would buy an actual MP devastator in a heartbeat.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I have an update on Devastator. Besides the 6 voyagers Takara will release each member individually as a MP figure since they're going to be MP car size.

Do we have a confirmed source or, in case of anonymity, reliability records?