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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:38 am

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Mr Skram » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:39 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, Tarantulas is part of the boxset, that will NEVER be broken up by the club, if you want him by himself, you will have to go through scalpers on ebay, and at that point, buying the whole boxset would probably be cheaper.


I figured, just a bit of a pipe dream to snag him solo. I don't need him as an APC or whatever the alt mode is, I just like the colors and head. Hopefully TT does something for Tarantulas for the anniversary.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:42 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, Tarantulas is part of the boxset, that will NEVER be broken up by the club, if you want him by himself, you will have to go through scalpers on ebay, and at that point, buying the whole boxset would probably be cheaper.


I figured, just a bit of a pipe dream to snag him solo. I don't need him as an APC or whatever the alt mode is, I just like the colors and head. Hopefully TT does something for Tarantulas for the anniversary.


I would love it if they designed a bike with spider legs like that 3p figure, I would love a chance to get a version of that design as Airachnid :PRAY:
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:12 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Not too miffed by the unpainted dragon eyes, I always hated that mode. Is he using the devil gigatron mold? Can he pull off all 11 modes? I would keep him in the majestic 'Griffin' mode myself 8-)


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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:28 am

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Reflector actually looks pretty cool as a camera, not sure how stable he holds together, but shocky's arms seem to tab together very nicely. The black on his arms help sell the camera mode and it looks like a slightly neo-futuristic take on a modern photographers camera, with the extended lens and such, nice job on that :-?

Would love to get him, but I doubt that would happen, any chance bbts would get these for a reasonable price?
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Big Grim » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:43 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For those curious:

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It's semi-official, as this came from the designer himself.


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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:47 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Woah woah wait wait wait... The Dragon heads on megatro have no eyes painted? WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!!

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89$ and no eyes, 89 $ AND NO **** EYES!??!!??!

I am now wondering if this is a deal breaker, what do you guys think?

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You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:51 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah woah wait wait wait... The Dragon heads on megatro have no eyes painted? WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!!

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89$ and no eyes, 89 $ AND NO **** EYES!??!!??!

I am now wondering if this is a deal breaker, what do you guys think?

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You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.


The thing has 12 modes, so one isn't the best, it has at least 2 better beast modes to choose from >:oP

While I agree with the principal, I just can't bring myself to get worked up about it, since I know I would never use that mode
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:02 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah woah wait wait wait... The Dragon heads on megatro have no eyes painted? WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!!

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89$ and no eyes, 89 $ AND NO **** EYES!??!!??!

I am now wondering if this is a deal breaker, what do you guys think?

Image

You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.


The thing has 12 modes, so one isn't the best, it has at least 2 better beast modes to choose from >:oP

While I agree with the principal, I just can't bring myself to get worked up about it, since I know I would never use that mode

I understand what you mean, but I do feel that is quite a subjective matter. Personally I adore that mold's 2-headed dragon mode- in fact I feel it's the "signature" alt mode.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:06 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah woah wait wait wait... The Dragon heads on megatro have no eyes painted? WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!!

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89$ and no eyes, 89 $ AND NO **** EYES!??!!??!

I am now wondering if this is a deal breaker, what do you guys think?

Image

You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.


The thing has 12 modes, so one isn't the best, it has at least 2 better beast modes to choose from >:oP

While I agree with the principal, I just can't bring myself to get worked up about it, since I know I would never use that mode

I understand what you mean, but I do feel that is quite a subjective matter. Personally I adore that mold's 2-headed dragon mode- in fact I feel it's the "signature" alt mode.


I hear that, and it does suck hard, which is why I only spoke for myself (though, you gotta admit, with 12 modes, you should be able to be happy with 11 properly painted ones :-P )
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby King Kuuga » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:09 pm

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It seems entirely possible that the lack of eyes was a factory error that was too late to fix and FunPub's stickers are damage control. I highly doubt FP would deliberately leave out that particular paint app.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Robogeek1973 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:55 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For those curious:

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It's semi-official, as this came from the designer himself.


Oh my god that's awesome! :lol: :APPLAUSE:
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Deadput » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:21 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:Image

You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.



Jesus Christ their just eyes paint them yourself with a pen or something.


And what the hell are you going on about the stickers for would you rather them just have the retail CW Silverbolt, Ironhide and Prowl reused at an expensive price or just a 5 dollar sticker pack?


Their just stickers man Jesus I know you don't like Funpub or Hasbro but this is just sad I mean really sad.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:02 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Image

You have got to be kidding me.

I would say I can't believe that they'd be this f*cking lazy, and that I'm shocked at their money-grubbing in trying to make you pay extra for stickers (STICKERS) that are basically essential for the toy to look complete... but I can and I'm not. It's Funpub, what did we expect?

Seriously though. Up yours Funpub. You took one of the most awesome exclusives that never was, waved it in front of our faces and then took a gigantic sh*t on it. I sincerely hope some Chinese mold thieves make knockoffs of the toy, improve it with better paint and a better headsculpt, and release it for half the price. I'd buy it just to spite you. And I say that as someone who hates KOs with all my heart.



Jesus Christ their just eyes paint them yourself with a pen or something.

It's a $90 collectible made in very small quantities. I shouldn't HAVE to paint it myself. It isn't a model kit. Unpainted detail is bad enough on a retail figure, but on a severely limited, highly anticipated exclusive? It's bloody inexcusable.


And what the hell are you going on about the stickers for would you rather them just have the retail CW Silverbolt, Ironhide and Prowl reused at an expensive price or just a 5 dollar sticker pack?

I wasn't talking about the stickers for the Magnaboss components. I was talking about Transmetal 3 Megatron. A set of exclusive stickers to turn a set of regular retail figures into something else is one thing. A supposed collector's item going for $90 using stickers (an antiquated and extremely poor method of detailing figures, especially small details like eyes)- and then expecting you to pay even MORE money for them to buy them separately- is daylight robbery.
Their just stickers man Jesus I know you don't like Funpub or Hasbro but this is just sad I mean really sad.

What's sad is that Funpub are allowed to get away with sh*t like this, and that there's people actually DEFENDING them for it. Though I use the term "people" very generously with regards to Hasbro/Funpub apologists.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Railbomb » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:06 pm

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:44 am

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Delta Magnus wrote:What's sad is that Funpub are allowed to get away with sh*t like this, and that there's people actually DEFENDING them for it. Though I use the term "people" very generously with regards to Hasbro/Funpub apologists.


That Bot wrote:It seems entirely possible that the lack of eyes was a factory error that was too late to fix and FunPub's stickers are damage control. I highly doubt FP would deliberately leave out that particular paint app.


Apologist? Or realist?
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:39 am

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Delta Magnus wrote:What's sad is that Funpub are allowed to get away with sh*t like this, and that there's people actually DEFENDING them for it. Though I use the term "people" very generously with regards to Hasbro/Funpub apologists.


That Bot wrote:It seems entirely possible that the lack of eyes was a factory error that was too late to fix and FunPub's stickers are damage control. I highly doubt FP would deliberately leave out that particular paint app.


Apologist? Or realist?


Realists. He still has eyes, it's not like they aren't sculpted in.

And really, we're somehow sub-human for defending something as minor as not painting the eyes on a figure that uses them in one of 11 modes? What an immature reaction. I've got a bunch of modern Takara Tomy Transformers that come with stickers to finish the figures. I guess they're garbage too. >:oP

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:03 am

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What if the eyes actually are painted, but because the hue is so close to the red he has it just looks like he has unpainted eyes from a glance?
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:20 am

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Insurgent » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:34 am

I feel like this thread is getting a bit Zack Snyder-ish.


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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby RevTibe » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:38 am

Insurgent wrote:I feel like this thread is getting a bit Zack Snyder-ish.

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:22 am

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Insurgent wrote:I feel like this thread is getting a bit Zack Snyder-ish.

Folks need to chill.

I don't think you appreciate the intense importance of a plastic dragon-man, you "subhuman apologist".


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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:37 am

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I don't think you appreciate the intense importance of a plastic dragon-man, you "subhuman apologist".

Truer words never spoken of grown men and women playing with children's toyses. :lol: ;)
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" BotCon 2016 set Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:45 am

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Delta Magnus wrote:What's sad is that Funpub are allowed to get away with sh*t like this, and that there's people actually DEFENDING them for it. Though I use the term "people" very generously with regards to Hasbro/Funpub apologists.


That Bot wrote:It seems entirely possible that the lack of eyes was a factory error that was too late to fix and FunPub's stickers are damage control. I highly doubt FP would deliberately leave out that particular paint app.


Apologist? Or realist?


Realists. He still has eyes, it's not like they aren't sculpted in.

And really, we're somehow sub-human for defending something as minor as not painting the eyes on a figure that uses them in one of 11 modes? What an immature reaction. I've got a bunch of modern Takara Tomy Transformers that come with stickers to finish the figures. I guess they're garbage too. >:oP

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I certainly wouldn't buy them if they need stickers. Stickers for detail should have been phased out for good in the 80s. They rub off, peel, and if they get anything at all on the adhesive surfaces then they won't stick. If it's the Arms Micron line you're referring to then yeah, they are garbage. The model-kit element was fine, but removing every single paint app from the figures in favour of stickers? No.

And I'm sorry, but for $90 I shouldn't be given an incomplete figure. I thought the whole point of exclusives was that they offered a premium product? Because not painting the f*cking eyes on the dragon heads is not something I'd expect from a premium product.

>B-But it's only a small detail on one of his 11 modes!


I don't care. It's $90, or in my case nearly £65. That's a lot of money. If they expect us to pay that much then it better be perfect. Yes, I COULD paint it myself, but I shouldn't have to. It's the principle of the thing as much as anything else, and the precedent it sets. Let them skimp on this and they'll keep on seeing how much they can get away with. "Oh, they won't mind if we don't paint the eyes!" "Nah, they'll be fine if he doesn't come with any weapons!" "Who cares if you have to buy the head for $10 extra?".

Was I a bit overzealous in implying that Hasbro/Funpub apologists were subhuman? Perhaps. But they are definitely idiots.
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And in all your ranting and raving you completely ignored my proposition. What sounds more likely: that FunPub decided "you know what? We'll skip the eyes on this premium figure's most iconic alt mode and just give it stickers, people love stickers!" or "Crap, the factory didn't paint in the eyes and it's too late to send them back to be fixed. What can we do? Hey, we're already putting out a sticker sheet for Magnaboss, let's include some eye stickers on there. It's better than just leaving it with no eyes." Occam's razor, my friend.
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