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SlyTF1 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.

They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.

On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.

They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.

On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?

That really bugged me too. Are we really supposed to believe humans could build better Transformers than the Transformers themselves? (Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)

Regarding the headline, I'm downright shocked that this movie managed to beat out Guardians of the Galaxy. GotG was by no means a perfect movie, but it was miles smarter and more original than AoE. Plus Gunn proved that you can have a movie where CGI characters get just as much focus and character development as the human actors.

JazZeke wrote:(Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)

THAT I had no problem with because it's supposed to be a dumb name. Wembley and/or Joshua said it was a focus grouped name, which means it's meant to sound lame as a jab from the movie towards focus groups.

JazZeke wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.

They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.

On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?

That really bugged me too. Are we really supposed to believe humans could build better Transformers than the Transformers themselves? (Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)

Regarding the headline, I'm downright shocked that this movie managed to beat out Guardians of the Galaxy. GotG was by no means a perfect movie, but it was miles smarter and more original than AoE. Plus Gunn proved that you can have a movie where CGI characters get just as much focus and character development as the human actors.

I think the premise of the "transformation" was that it was built around a Transformer's Cellular structure, and their ability to reformat their exoskeleton based on a scanned vehicle mode, whereas a traditional Transformer does it via contortionism. *Cough*Nanites*/Cough*. They were growing Transformers out of Stem Cells basically, by harvesting mechaorganic tissue and poking it with the proverbial science stick. The THEORY, I have no problem with, because sure, a nanite cloud rebuilding itself would look like a blob. PROBABLY, the Transformers never designed this trait because they already had a method of Transforming that worked and worked well. Chalk it up to complacency or simple ignorance. The problem I have with it is the way it was handled graphically, and that when you introduce Nanites, it becomes very hard to take down the enemy realitically, which is what ultimately happened.

I don't recall when TF4 and GotG came out, but I think TF4 simply beat it out because it had more time to sit in Theaters, a better following who saw it multiple times (GotG was a newcomer even to casual comic fans compared to Thor or Ironman), and a stronger showing (and support, especially in China) overseas. Those overseas numbers help.

As for "Transformium", G1 introduced a lot of metals too. As a fan, I kinda wish they'd stuck with Cybertronum, but there's no reason for a human to use Cybrtron as a root name, since they've only ever seen Cybertron for 20 minutes.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.

They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.

On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?

They didn't "perfect," anything. Them breaking down into their base particles in order to transform isn't perfected. That's primitive, at best. It may be more useful for combat purposes, but far from perfected.

I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.

I thought an arms race of weapons made from transformers tech would of been a better storyline to go with instead of its consumer angle. That way all drones the drones could of been military vehicles. Stinger could of still featured as a light reconnaissance car to keep up his mirroring of bumblebee.

No indicator that it was a good film in way shape or form however.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.

They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.

On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?

They didn't "perfect," anything. Them breaking down into their base particles in order to transform isn't perfected. That's primitive, at best. It may be more useful for combat purposes, but far from perfected.

They created the process and made it work with zero negative consequences. Sounds perfected to me.

TF4 was in my honest opinion,the best of the 4 movies(A lot of people will scream at me for this.) Let us hope that TF5 will be even better with almost no loopholes!

P.S.Cannot wait for Jurassic World too!

Lockdownhunter wrote:Let us hope that TF5 will be even better with almost no loopholes!

You kiddin'? Loopholes are what these filmmakers seem to love most (after excessive carnage and needless adult humor, that is).

At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.

inb4chrisprattinTF5becausehesineverythingnowadays

guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.

inb4chrisprattinTF5becausehesineverythingnowadays

Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.

That's because the drones weren't sentient. Or at least were just rudimentary intelligent. They didn't have the mental ability to use themselves in that way. However, Galvatron did, as seen during the motorway chase when Bee shot at him under the bridge. But Galvatron didn't do anything in the final fight.


I do agree though, I do not like the flying pixel transformation. Except for when Galvatron used it in combat. I admit, that was sweet.

Sabrblade wrote:

guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.

inb4chrisprattinTF5becausehesineverythingnowadays

Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.

I just finished the movie yesterday and I can confirm that Crosshairs does transform but you can't see him because Grimlock is in front of him.

Sabrblade wrote:

guarayakha wrote:At least AoE does not comes with a Screaming LaBeouf. The Kreo-formers though...urghh. I guess it's probably faster (and cheaper?) to do a simulation of floating cubes than to rig a transforming model that'll only be scene like what, once each? Not even the bots get to transform on screen except for Prime and Drift. And Bee gets a cheating shot of "car flaps opening"-> Camera change to humans-> back to botmode. Which is funny considering that in TF1's audio commentary Bay explicitly said that he hated that one shot where Bee does just that, because it's lazy work.

inb4chrisprattinTF5becausehesineverythingnowadays

Lockdown, Bee, and Crosshairs each did get to transform onscreen at least once. Hound, however, got the short end of the deal.

Don't forget all of the Dinobots, at least twice.

Autobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!

bolding mine

Wow, it beat a movie that wasn't even in wide release at all in 2014 and only in limited released for a week? Impressive!

The Dinobots had a few transformations so that made me happy ( especially since rumors were going around that they didn't transform).Although it is known that Crosshairs transforms, it's still not onscreen.He wasn't even like Que in DOTM when they returned in the background Que can be seen starting to transform.

For all the Transformers movieverse fans out there, some good news from Amazon Prime! The online retailer's premium section is adding a bunch of movies to their streaming service, and the list includes the latest Paramount/Michael Bay output - Age of Extinction - as of June 13th. Check out the full list below to see what else is available, too.

Amazon has released its lineup of movies and TV shows that will be available for streaming come June 2015. During those hot summer days, Amazon Prime members will be able to enjoy titles like "Transformers: Age of Extinction," "The Shining," "Lucky Number Slevin" and Season 5 of "Covert Affairs."

Amazon Prime titles

June 1
"The Shining"
"Roman Holiday"
"Apocalypse Now"
"Apocalypse Now Redux"
"Something Wild" (1986)
"Sid & Nancy"
"Sucker Punch"
"Troll"
"Troll 2"
"Rep: The Genetic Opera"
"The Island of Dr. Moreau"
"Seven Psychopaths"
"The Paper Chase"
"People Will Talk"
"Far From Home: The Adventures of Yellow Dog"
"Murder of a Cat"
"Nine Months"
"Word and Pictures"

June 12
"Life of Crime"

June 13
"Transformers: Age of Extinction"

June 15
"Leprechaun: Origins"

June 19
"A Most Wanted Man"

June 22
"Lucky Number Slevin"

June 24
"Covert Affairs," Season 5

June 26
"Katy Perry: The Prismatic World Tour"

June 27
"The Mist"

Insurgent wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.

That's because the drones weren't sentient. Or at least were just rudimentary intelligent. They didn't have the mental ability to use themselves in that way. However, Galvatron did, as seen during the motorway chase when Bee shot at him under the bridge. But Galvatron didn't do anything in the final fight.


I do agree though, I do not like the flying pixel transformation. Except for when Galvatron used it in combat. I admit, that was sweet.

The main question is, Why Galvatron didn't do anything by himself during Hong Kong scene, he isn't easy to be damaged, and he showed already that he is strong enough to fight with Prime. Yet again he let his mindless drones get the job done, whey never learned that this can't work don't they.

Imagine how mucha Decepticons could be effective, without "Megatron/Galvatron is only sitting and giving order" rule

TurboMMaster wrote:

Insurgent wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think the transformation was a visual style more then anything else as it's combat advantages were certainly not played upon in the final battle in Hong Kong.

That's because the drones weren't sentient. Or at least were just rudimentary intelligent. They didn't have the mental ability to use themselves in that way. However, Galvatron did, as seen during the motorway chase when Bee shot at him under the bridge. But Galvatron didn't do anything in the final fight.


I do agree though, I do not like the flying pixel transformation. Except for when Galvatron used it in combat. I admit, that was sweet.

The main question is, Why Galvatron didn't do anything by himself during Hong Kong scene, he isn't easy to be damaged, and he showed already that he is strong enough to fight with Prime. Yet again he let his mindless drones get the job done, whey never learned that this can't work don't they.

Imagine how mucha Decepticons could be effective, without "Megatron/Galvatron is only sitting and giving order" rule

im not sure he couldve stood a chance against the dinobots but i do agree he couldve done a lot more in the final battle

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!

bolding mine

Wow, it beat a movie that wasn't even in wide release at all in 2014 and only in limited released for a week? Impressive!

1 - Transformers: Age of Extinction Paramount Pictures $1,091,404,499
2 - The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Warner Bros. / New Line Cinema / MGM $955,113,783
3 - Guardians of the Galaxy Marvel Studios $774,176,600
4 - Maleficent Walt Disney Pictures $758,654,942
5 - The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1 Lionsgate Films $752,100,229
6 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 20th Century Fox $748,121,534
7 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier Marvel Studios $714,766,572
8 - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Columbia Pictures $709,582,323
9 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 20th Century Fox $708,835,589
10 - Interstellar Paramount Pictures / Warner Bros. $672,974,414

Lego and Sniper don't feature on the list for obvious reasons...
Age of Extinction beat all of these movies which were on wide release last year. Clearly.
In comparison to most of those films in the list, I did not like AOE as much - but the figures speak for themselves.
It's also the 12th highest grossing film of all time. No other film from 2014 is even in the top 20 highest grossing films...

Beardy wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:According to Deadline, an industry trade website, Transformers: Age Of Extinction was the clear winner of 2014, having the largest box office take of the year, it even beat out other big greats such as American Sniper and The Lego Movie!

bolding mine

Wow, it beat a movie that wasn't even in wide release at all in 2014 and only in limited released for a week? Impressive!

1 - Transformers: Age of Extinction Paramount Pictures $1,091,404,499
2 - The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Warner Bros. / New Line Cinema / MGM $955,113,783
3 - Guardians of the Galaxy Marvel Studios $774,176,600
4 - Maleficent Walt Disney Pictures $758,654,942
5 - The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1 Lionsgate Films $752,100,229
6 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 20th Century Fox $748,121,534
7 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier Marvel Studios $714,766,572
8 - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Columbia Pictures $709,582,323
9 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 20th Century Fox $708,835,589
10 - Interstellar Paramount Pictures / Warner Bros. $672,974,414

Lego and Sniper don't feature on the list for obvious reasons...
Age of Extinction beat all of these movies which were on wide release last year. Clearly.
In comparison to most of those films in the list, I did not like AOE as much - but the figures speak for themselves.
It's also the 12th highest grossing film of all time. No other film from 2014 is even in the top 20 highest grossing films...

AOE beat the Hobbit? [petpeeve}Hell yeah! On a very personal note, I think Peter Jackson jumped the shark with LOTR and really butchered the Hobbit, making it form light-hearted into something that's harshly shoe-horned into LOTR. No Ents? Again no Tom Bombadil? A made-up war? Yes, the Hobbit deserves to be beaten by Micheal Bay. [/petpeeve]

Much like Amazon Prime, as we reported a month ago, streaming service Netflix has also made Transformers: Age of Extinction available for viewing online as of this weekend! The notification comes to us from fellow Seibertronian Cobotron, who also sends us the stock image used by Netflix below. Will you be taking some time this Sunday to revisit the fourth instalment in the Paramount series about (more or less) our favourite transforming robots?



To view on Netflix, follow this link: https://www.netflix.com/gb/?trkid=13462064

To view on Amazon Prime, follow this link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L83TQR6

One time was enough for me.

This weekend? Is this a region thing cos I've watched AoE on Netflix four times in the past few months already.