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Burn wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:my rant is exaclty pointless,

Your words, not mine.

typo pal, typo, they happen sometimes, and thanks for pointing that out im in a better state of mind now lololol

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:my mistake, it should have! utter garabage.......but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

my rant is exaclty pointless, the movie is still the worst pile of dung ive seen in years........even ROTF was better, and thats saying a lot. so mate to each their own

So your mad at Bay because of your childhood?

Who cares exactly?

wtf does my childhood have to do with it, im 34. how about the fact that bay is the worst director on the planet and somehow he became the director of the best toyline and cartoon ever? thats what irked me, im not one of those guys that says the new version of TF has to be exaclty G1......how about the fact that bay doesnt know eff all about plot, story and character deveolpment.......have u seen any of his other movies, like the island for eg! the most laughable movies ive seen by a maintstream director have been by Bay........look at his rating on IMDB, hes a joke. and some how he got TFs.........maybe satan does run hollywood!

why was jolt in ROTF, he said nothing! not one word! why were the dinos in the last peice of crap? they didnt really do anything or speak a word........yea man thats just genius isnt it............

and btw there are millions of tf fans out there that feel like me, get used to it, go talk to ppl at CONS, a lot of the ppl in my age group and friends feel the same way, so u bay fan boys better get used to the idea that ppl have different opinions then u guys do.........

I'm pretty sure M. Night Shayamalan is the worst director of all time. At least most of Michael Bay's movies are watchable.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:my mistake, it should have! utter garabage.......but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

my rant is exaclty pointless, the movie is still the worst pile of dung ive seen in years........even ROTF was better, and thats saying a lot. so mate to each their own

So your mad at Bay because of your childhood?

Who cares exactly?

wtf does my childhood have to do with it, im 34. how about the fact that bay is the worst director on the planet and somehow he became the director of the best toyline and cartoon ever? thats what irked me, im not one of those guys that says the new version of TF has to be exaclty G1......how about the fact that bay doesnt know eff all about plot, story and character deveolpment.......have u seen any of his other movies, like the island for eg! the most laughable movies ive seen by a maintstream director have been by Bay........look at his rating on IMDB, hes a joke. and some how he got TFs.........maybe satan does run hollywood!

why was jolt in ROTF, he said nothing! not one word! why were the dinos in the last peice of crap? they didnt really do anything or speak a word........yea man thats just genius isnt it............

and btw there are millions of tf fans out there that feel like me, get used to it, go talk to ppl at CONS, a lot of the ppl in my age group and friends feel the same way, so u bay fan boys better get used to the idea that ppl have different opinions then u guys do.........

Just because a bunch of butthurt fanboys think the same way you do, doesn't make you all right about anything.

And to answer your questions, Jolt was in ROTF to combine Optimus and Jetfire, and the Dinobots were in AOE to introduce them into the story, so they can play a bigger role in the sequel. Obviously, you couldn't figure it out, so yeah, I guess it is a genius move, huh?

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

Well at least try reading a book, or something.

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

Well at least try reading a book, or something.

Do the IDW comics count?

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

Well at least try reading a book, or something.

Do the IDW comics count?

A book. With no pictures. And a vocabulary larger than "See Spot run."

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

Well at least try reading a book, or something.

Do the IDW comics count?

A book. With no pictures. And a vocabulary larger than "See Spot run."

I'm writing a book.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I'm pretty sure M. Night Shayamalan is the worst director of all time. At least most of Michael Bay's movies are watchable.

Pretty sure Uwe Boll tops both of them.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:

um yea i do believe what i say, bay sucks and so does the TF franchise, im sorry if your butt hurt and cant believe that there are ppl who love and collect tfs that absolutely hate bay and his pile of crap movies............

so yea i do believe what im saying.........

Who ever said I like the films?


I'm not butt hurt I'm just surprised of how immature and butt hurt you are acting and you say your 34 I'm 19 and I just move on with my life and don't sit in my chair getting all worked up about some guy and his movies.



FYI I'm a Beast wars guy so I recognize how bad the movies are but I also watch them anyways just to pass the time.

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

You don't have to be so rude about it just some guy's opinion.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:how about the fact that bay doesnt know eff all about plot, story and character deveolpment

G1 doesn't know how to do that either.



G1 should go die in a hole sometime soon since it's being shoved down our throats all the time not that I hate G1 or anything but G1 makes people selfish and needy and attack people because their suffering from nostalgia.



IDW comics can stay since the only things G1 are character's and their designs.

Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Do not bother them with details, they where getting along fine without those.

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

Wow... Just... Dude, that is without a doubt, the saddest, most pathetic thing I have ever read. Just... wow.

Have you ever given a thought to... I dunno, having a life?

From what I've observed of what most people consider "a life," it's nothing I wish to be a part of.

Well at least try reading a book, or something.

Do the IDW comics count?

A book. With no pictures. And a vocabulary larger than "See Spot run."

I'm writing a book.

(Comics are books.)

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

Uh, duh.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

First off -

JazZeke wrote:Uh, duh.

****, beat me to it. And that's only the most recent, where they should have been able to iron out most of the wrinkles in the plot, but instead they just ignore everything for booms. And what was with having the Dinobots shown being frozen in the Arctic if they were on Lockdown's ship the whole time anyway? Totally and completely unnecessary.

Also, sorry Sly, but the Dinobots were bad, and you should feel bad.

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

Uh, duh.

1. They probably weren't even using that device at the time. Eventually, they probably would have found Optimus, anyway. And obviously, the kind of barn that Cade has. Even so, Optimus was sitting down in the basement. They make it sound like he was standing straight up, 30 feet and all.

2. It was never established that the particles could defy gravity. They're still bound by physics. Just because they can glide through the air doesn't mean they can fly around all over the damn place.

3. Shane said the car was broken. I guess whoever the hell wrote this didn't even pay attention to the movie.

4. He got the ability to fly when he assumed his Knight mode, when he grabbed the sword aboard the Knight's Temenus. He didn't have the ability to do **** all along. Plus, there is no Linkin Park song in the movie, so this entire point is ****.

And for that last one, Optimus never says ONLY the Autobots can repair him. He says that they can, but Cade offers to do it, instead. Cade repaired him. He didn't repair himself by scanning the damn car, nor did they ever establish that that's what happened. It's just a bunch of people pulling things out of their ass to try to make up "plot holes," for the movie.

Even with all these "plot holes," there are tons of movies which are critically acclaimed that have many more. So, what constitutes as "bad writing," when the movie has less plot holes than supposed "good movies"?

SlyTF1 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

Uh, duh.

1. They probably weren't even using that device at the time. Eventually, they probably would have found Optimus, anyway. And obviously, the kind of barn that Cade has. Even so, Optimus was sitting down in the basement. They make it sound like he was standing straight up, 30 feet and all.

2. It was never established that the particles could defy gravity. They're still bound by physics. Just because they can glide through the air doesn't mean they can fly around all over the damn place.

3. Shane said the car was broken. I guess whoever the hell wrote this didn't even pay attention to the movie.

4. He got the ability to fly when he assumed his Knight mode, when he grabbed the sword aboard the Knight's Temenus. He didn't have the ability to do **** all along. Plus, there is no Linkin Park song in the movie, so this entire point is ****.

And for that last one, Optimus never says ONLY the Autobots can repair him. He says that they can, but Cade offers to do it, instead. Cade repaired him. He didn't repair himself by scanning the damn car, nor did they ever establish that that's what happened. It's just a bunch of people pulling things out of their ass to try to make up "plot holes," for the movie.

Even with all these "plot holes," there are tons of movies which are critically acclaimed that have many more. So, what constitutes as "bad writing," when the movie has less plot holes than supposed "good movies"?

You just keep getting sadder and sadder.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:Technically if there's plot holes and bad story lines ... that may have something to do more with the writer than the director.

Again, I feel compelled to ask this; what are these "plot holes," people keep finding in these movies?

First off -

JazZeke wrote:Uh, duh.

****, beat me to it. And that's only the most recent, where they should have been able to iron out most of the wrinkles in the plot, but instead they just ignore everything for booms. And what was with having the Dinobots shown being frozen in the Arctic if they were on Lockdown's ship the whole time anyway? Totally and completely unnecessary.

Also, sorry Sly, but the Dinobots were bad, and you should feel bad.

The Dinobots were never shown frozen in the Arctic. Those were regular dinosaurs.

Here we go again.