Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:28 pm

Actually my dislike for him started out because Va'als infatuation for him, and I like to stir Va'al, in other words, it started out as a joke and I didn't really give a **** about Alpha Bravo.

But over time, as more and more people became infatuated with a character that had basically no characterisation, and how he was being turned into a quasi Mary Sue. So really, my problem isn't so much with Alpha Bravo (and I don't give a flying **** what people say, putting a helicopter into a team of jets is STUPID) but rather with his fans who worship him like he's the be all and end all.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:28 am

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See, that I can understand. He stands out, he has no personality, and the ironic cult around him can turn as many people off as it gets more people in on the joke. For my part, since i don't really know what any of the Aerialbots' personalities are like, he doesn't bother me as much. He forms Superion's arm and that's about the end of it. I don't really know more or less about him than any of the others. But I understand it can be different if you've been around these characters for 30some years. I sympathize.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:38 am

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Burn wrote:Actually my dislike for him started out because Va'als infatuation for him, and I like to stir Va'al, in other words, it started out as a joke and I didn't really give a **** about Alpha Bravo.

But over time, as more and more people became infatuated with a character that had basically no characterisation, and how he was being turned into a quasi Mary Sue. So really, my problem isn't so much with Alpha Bravo (and I don't give a flying **** what people say, putting a helicopter into a team of jets is STUPID) but rather with his fans who worship him like he's the be all and end all.


I am so very pleased that you think of me that way. :x

(because I only started all of this as a joke too, to annoy other people such as the one who started this thread.. :-$ )
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Black Hat » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:06 pm

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Kurona » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:36 pm

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This is the same franchise where a Rhino apparently moves as fast as a shiny flying gorilla on a hoverboard.

What's mary-sueish about Alpha Bravo...? He's not exactly Star Saber; the one piece of fiction he was in where the dude took on a major role portrayed him as a fish out of water, had one of the greatest portrayals of the psychological effects in a combiner, and had him come to a tragic end. I used to kind of like him because he looked cool and you could headcanon him as someone in a ragtag group, but when he actually got a character it made me care for him a lot.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:43 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:the ironic cult around him can turn as many people off as it gets more people in on the joke.


Yes. This.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby It Is Him » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:06 pm

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Z3ROhour » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:50 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Who in the what now?

Alpha Bravo fans are the modern day equivalent of Starscream Fangirls. Best to just ignore them.



Like I said: "who in the what now" ;)


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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Z3ROhour » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:52 pm

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It Is Him wrote:Irony is a tool of the functionalists to enslave the working classes. Alpha Bravo represents a point of hope in the struggle against the grand taxonomy of Cybertron. Resist.




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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby DetectiveFork » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:19 pm

I'll join the minority and say that yes, Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Rook irritated me. Not because they exist, but because Hasbro (again) decided to go the route of a true G1 remake and then swerved away at the last second. It's similar to when they remake a G1 character like Powerglide and then color him silver. It's frustrating when they create a toy that draws so heavily on nostalgia and then throw in an imperfection for seemingly no reason. Why even go this route to begin with if you're not going to commit?

The good news is that Takara and eventually Hasbro usually remedy this issue by releasing missing characters or figures in classic color schemes. In the end, I think they manage to please most everybody.

With Titans Return and Power of the Primes, Hasbro seems to have embraced making full-on G1 updates, so that makes me really happy, at least.

And I'm glad I never purchased Alpha Bravo, Offroad or Rook to have an "almost there" combiner.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:22 pm

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:17 pm

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This thread is still going? That's got to say something about Ab's legacy ;-)
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby DetectiveFork » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:12 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:This thread is still going? That's got to say something about Ab's legacy ;-)


Or infamy. ;-)
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:01 am

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DetectiveFork wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:This thread is still going? That's got to say something about Ab's legacy ;-)


Or infamy. ;-)


He left a deep mark either way, and that's saying something for a character without any real characterization.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:10 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
DetectiveFork wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:This thread is still going? That's got to say something about Ab's legacy ;-)


Or infamy. ;-)


He left a deep mark either way, and that's saying something for a character without any real characterization.


But he has a whole three-four panels, and an sorta official fanfic! What more do you need?!

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:59 am

Va'al wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
DetectiveFork wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:This thread is still going? That's got to say something about Ab's legacy ;-)


Or infamy. ;-)


He left a deep mark either way, and that's saying something for a character without any real characterization.


But he has a whole three-four panels, and an sorta official fanfic! What more do you need?!

( :-P )


For him to die a pointless death.

Like other well established and loved characters, i.e. KUP
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:06 am

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:41 am

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Is Ab actually still in the comics then or did slingshot get revived? Surely Superion was used in more than just Combiner Wars.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Ironhidensh » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:26 am

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Who is Alpha Bravo?

























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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:58 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Who is Alpha Bravo?

Bowing to pressure from a vocal minority who believe there isn't enough diversity in Transformers, Hasbro introduced a helicopter into a team that was comprised solely of super fast jets.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:49 am

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DetectiveFork wrote:I'm glad I never purchased Alpha Bravo, Offroad or Rook to have an "almost there" combiner.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:05 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
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Rook was awesome as well, a really fun toy, never underestimate the power of hulk hands! Really though it was good that hasbro covered their bases in a sense, it allowed those who cared about accuracy (to a certain point of course) to get the combiner they want while everyone else got some excellent toys that were great to transform and combine. So hate Ab or love Ab, who cares? Combiner Wars was awesome :-)
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rainmaker » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:40 am

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I don't actually understand what's so bad about having a helicopter in a team of jets.

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:53 am

Rainmaker wrote:I don't actually understand what's so bad about having a helicopter in a team of jets.

The jets will get to the battlefield first and then have to wait for the helicopter to turn up before they can combine ...
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:04 am

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Rainmaker wrote:I don't actually understand what's so bad about having a helicopter in a team of jets.

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Most jets have a minimum top speed of at least 400 mph.

Helicopters, even the fastest of them (as far as I know, I could be wrong) have a maximum top speed of 250 mph.

In layman's terms: jet fast. Whirlybird slow.
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