ALT. MENASOR 2.0 is COMING!!! (Update 1/01/06

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ALT. MENASOR 2.0 is COMING!!! (Update 1/01/06

Postby TFmaster » Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:48 pm

Ok, so why would this be in scratchbuilders forum when about 4/5 ths of this will be slight remolded repaints?

Because the majority of Motormaster will be scratchbuilt.

For those comming into this thread exspecting some kinda pics....

... :lol: Ha! Ha! . (Opp's I meant, "Sorry, not Yet")

Anyhoo, back to the topic at hand.

If I have learned ANYTHING from making my Scratchbuilt MPPMOP-01 it's that this reall get's easier as we go...

Motormaster should be no promblem as well as making his alt modes.

Now, my plan is to Scratchbuild a entire Trailer that transforms into all 3 alt modes (I know there's 4 when you include ramp mode but I'm not doing that mode because I want the room for mobility of any extra joints it may need for maximum poseability) that consist of Bot, vehical and Body section. I also want to make the Cab seperate from the rest of him to act as a drone or to help with poseability for Menasor so those damn cabs won't get in the way when his knees bend.

Now there is not much to say with what I want to do to Motormaster other then that because I can't do it without showing you and I'm not even to him yet but I already know how all the functions will work and perfectly with stability.

I have begun production on the easiest part of redoing this Bad boy. (If anyone wants to show version one here then please do because I can't show crap untill I got my new computer.) I have figured out the exact Alt's I'm using and for what limbs.

Now if any of the remember my old one you already know what his hands look like. (Clear Unicron hands dyed purple) but instead of their original intent I need to redo one to match the other since I'm now going with the following bots for limbs.

2 Alt Prowls= Wildrider and Breakdown
1 Alt Decepticharge= (If you can't guess this one then that's just sad.)
1 Alt Windcharger=Deadend

Now, if I am able to I'm going to take 2 pics of a minor alteration I did involving the front wheels of Prowl's and the doors then you'll understand my choices for the 2 who become the legs above.

Prowl's mold is perfect for Wildrider as an updated version into an Alt. He's the only one I have compleately done so far. The mod mentioned above allows me to connect the doors to the shoulders and hang off each side of the arms like the original Stunticons. (I learned this mod doing my Updated Alt Sideswipe from that mold.) When I get the chance and the ability to I'll send pics but right now it might look like it'll have to wait untill I get my new comp. (My wife and I were talking about getting a new one for christmas)

Breakdown will again be Alt Prowl's mold in G1 colors.

Alt Deadend from Windcharger will be easy and to use my past Alt Menasor's Alt Dragstrip Arm formation the same way for that color version of that mold and everything will fall into place.

Now, if you want an Idea of how I'm doing th legs from Prowl then here's the transformation.

Pop off the arms at the wheel well.
Pull out the doors on the sides just a little.
Fold hood down into robot mode position.
Pull out back bumper and keep together in one peice.
Fold bumper up to the underside of the car.
Lightly push doors down as far as possible.

There. You got the lower leg. Now do that again with another alt Prowl and you'll have 2.

If you want to know how to make the arms then guess from my old MP Menasor pic.

Ok...I'm done for now.

I'm out!

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Postby Bumblebee1251 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:46 pm

Man, I am excited.
I was just thinking of this one (well the old one) when I was looking at my spare 20th Prime.

here's a pic of the old one.

I think i would keep Deadend, just outta principle. but hey guess that's
why they don't put master anywhere in my name. :P
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Postby johndillinga2003 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:27 pm

Why not use the exsisting Deadend body?
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Postby TFmaster » Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:32 am

John Dillinga wrote:Why not use the exsisting Deadend body?

Although I like the way he turnned out he just never really said "Dead End" to me.

That and going the Energon route with the limbs would be simpler to do.

Besides, it easier to come up with two different paint scheems for the same bot then to do it with a different molds.

That and the limbs look better proportioned... :wink:

Oh, BTW I also plan to use Supreme Cybertron Starcsream's head for the Combined forms Menasor head... :twisted:

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Postby Viagra Prime » Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:10 pm

No doubt this will be awesome. Though I hope you have not put your TWW Megs aside indefinitely.
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Postby GlauG » Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:12 pm

I think I speak for a lot of us here when I say I can't wait. :D
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Postby Pun-3X » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:20 pm

Wow. :shock:

When you're done, you've got to post pics of Menasor kicking the other BT/Alts' butts.
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Postby TwV » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:51 pm

W00T! 8)
That's very good to hear, TFM. ;)
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Postby Pepie » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:07 am

awesome.. seeing how beautifull version 1 was I'm anxcious to see your version 2 Menasor.. good luck man!!
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Postby primezimm » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:42 am

I can't wait to see ver 2 either. Do you have vehicle mode pics of your ver 1 Motormaster?

I've been looking for an anniversary Prime to convert to a version of Motormaster that I've thought up. I'm trying to find him on sale, $20-25, otherwise, he's too expensive to kitbash. I would like to use Deadend as Wildrider, sine he was the black car in the cartoon. Then convert one of the alt vettes into Deadend. I would also like to get Drags.. oops, Decepticharge (lousy name) and Wheeljack (to convert to Brakedown). I would love to know more about possible techniques for combining to avoid too much alteration to the original vehicles.

It sounds like an incredible project.
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Postby Fighbird » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:00 pm

Heh, some people like the Stunticons small, others big. 8)

Can't wait to see your Motomaster. Although my MM Motormaster (currently) won't have a torso mode, I am also going for the detachable truck. But that's solely because it simplifies things for me, especially working on such a small scale.

Do you have blueprints or something we can see at this poit? :D
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Postby The Spider » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:13 pm

Sounds great! Here's hoping you can top your last one.

On a bizarre sidenote I had a weird dream where suddenly everyone was tying all the Menasor customs on the site (and some of the other incarnations of individual Stunticons like the Alternators and G2 Breakdown) as part of the mainline continuity, and the explanation was that they keep on getting destroyed/killed/whatever a lot like Kenny from South Park. Reasoning being that Motormaster likes to torment his troops, Stunticons really don't like Motormaster, Megatron goes crazy at times, etc.
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Postby TM Megatron » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:11 pm

any updates?? u know, if u ever want to get rid of motormaster, lmk, ive been looking for a MP prime fig lol :lol:
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Postby TFmaster » Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:30 am

Ok. Now I know that it's been awhile with updates on this bad boy and trust me people I really do have plans for him.

First and formost I wanted to make sure I had all the 4 Basic Alternators made before I start construction on Motormaster.

With it being the first of a new year and a work horse as I am I wanted to show off some pics that might spark reinterest for those awaiting the new revamp.

So without further ado..

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Postby Heat Guy » Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:40 am

Nice... I cant wait to see the others.
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Postby HeliumSweater » Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:27 am

Why did you melt the car?
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Postby TFmaster » Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:56 am

Old Sweater wrote:Why did you melt the car?

I wanted Breakdown to be the pun of some cruel joke.

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Postby devastating-bruticus » Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:59 am

Looks like what my brother did to my legos...
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Postby TFmaster » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:11 am

Here are a couple more teaser pics...

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Postby TFmaster » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:14 am

And another...

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Postby gawd6sic6 » Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:37 pm

<---- drooling!!! me wants !.. looking great so far. keep up the great work on it.
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Postby TFmaster » Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:52 pm

gawd6sic6 wrote:<---- drooling!!! me wants !.. looking great so far. keep up the great work on it.

Does that say Gwar in your Avatar?

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Postby Primus_feather » Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:34 pm

Nice use of Supreme Starscreams head!!! That is such a good idea!!

Theres no way to Transform Prowls mold that way without removing bits??
You cant fold his head into the cest and have a secondary hinge fold up,
i.e. a new engine deign/knee hinge???
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Postby BillyBadAss » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:18 pm

When you make the gallery - you gotta have him fighting Pepie's Metroplex..!

Can't wait to see this one!!

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Postby gawd6sic6 » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:00 pm

yes thats gwar in my avatar.. remember im the one that is turning a sigma 6 fig into oderus. just got my dremel so i can start back on that... ill show ya some pix once i get him looking good. [/quote]
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