fenrir72 wrote:Different market, different buying habits,different culture.
GuyIncognito wrote:Takara's Prime figures feature fewer paint apps than Hasbro's.
slimjim0 wrote:Hasbro uses Takara's molds, the original G1 figures say Takara Hasbro on them, somewhere down the line Hasbro separated from Takara (or vice versa) but Hasbro still uses all of their molds. You won't see a Hasbro figure/mold that's not also produced exclusively by Takara in Japan.
slimjim0 wrote:Hasbro uses Takara's molds,
You won't see a Hasbro figure/mold that's not also produced exclusively by Takara in Japan.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
slimjim0 wrote:Hasbro uses Takara's molds, the original G1 figures say Takara Hasbro on them, somewhere down the line Hasbro separated from Takara (or vice versa) but Hasbro still uses all of their molds. You won't see a Hasbro figure/mold that's not also produced exclusively by Takara in Japan. With that said, all of the molds/figures should operate the same, but you're going to see massive amounts of redeco's, i.e. Takara Nemesis Prime (AM) vs. Takara Dark Guard Prime vs. Hasbro Optimus Prime (Voyager - Prime line) vs. Takara Optimus Prime (AM) and so on, and so on. But all of those figures are built from the same mold just look different. As someone pointed out above, Takara uses much less paint on their figures than Hasbro. Takara still uses the old school method on many of their figures which is stickers. I do like some of the Hasbro figures better because of this. I really think the whole fascination behind Takara products is two fold: the rarity and the exclusive figures that Hasbro might not offer, i.e. AM-19 Gaia Unicron. Hasbro still doesn't have a "Prime" Unicron and might not, so that's why I ordered it from Takara. I may be wrong on some of the above points, but that's how I see it! Anyway, hope this helps!
slimjim0 wrote:And straight from the horse's mouth (Hasbro), they just said that "TOMY is the originator of the molds". Just got off the phone with them, no sh*t.
slimjim0 wrote:And also, in the 80's when Transformers first hit the shelves in the U.S. Hasbro could not figure out how to design their own figures because of the intricacy of the parts. That's why they hired Takara to do all of them. Hasbro concocted Transformers after one of their guys returned from a business trip in Japan and saw all of these amazing transforming figures without a storyline. That's when Hasbro decided to breath life into them (good vs. evil) and design the cartoon, comic books and toys. Check out the documentary in DVD deluxe box set for the complete first 4 seasons of G1 Transformers. Hasbro had the idea for Transformers and Takara was already designing the toys. The success of Transformers was so fast and immense that they couldn't waste time trying to create their own. The first set of Transformers (G1 Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker for instance) were already existing molds/toys in Japan. Hasbro picked a handful of existing toys from Takara for "good and evil" and began designing the comic book and cartoon around them. That's why all three seekers were the same with different decos, to get it out fast.
And straight from the horse's mouth (Hasbro), they just said that "TOMY is the originator of the molds". Just got off the phone with them, no sh*t.
GuyIncognito wrote:slimjim0 wrote:And straight from the horse's mouth (Hasbro), they just said that "TOMY is the originator of the molds". Just got off the phone with them, no sh*t.
Sure you did.
GuyIncognito wrote:I just got off the phone with the President of Hasbro and he said "I design all the molds myself. Say 'Hi' to slimjim0 for me!"
slimjim0 wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:slimjim0 wrote:And straight from the horse's mouth (Hasbro), they just said that "TOMY is the originator of the molds". Just got off the phone with them, no sh*t.
Sure you did.
Maybe you missed this above:
Look on the back of your FOC figures, or any Hasbro figure for that matter, and it will say "Manufactured under license from TOMY Company, Ltd." AKA Takara/TOMY.
GuyIncognito wrote:Just stop already. You don't even know what you're talking about.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:He's right about the G1 Transformers being Japan's molds, but not all were from Takara-TOMY. For example, Jetfire was a mold from the Macross line by Takatoku Toys.
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