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Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Cascadia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:05 pm

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Jim Sorenson who has ran the Ask Vetcor Prime page on Facebook has announced that it has come to an end. He has enjoyed having answer many questions in regards to the Transformers universe. He really loved doing it but he felt that it needed to come to end after 9 months of running it.

It is lot of text of him thanking various people who helped make it possible.

So what is up next for Jim?

Well, expect more from the Axiom Nexus News crew, albeit sporadically. Beast Wars Uprising still has a few tales left. I expect I'll be writing up a special BotCon retrospective in a few months. And look for a couple of non-Transformers books from me from IDW Publishing before the end of the year. But for the next few weeks, I'll take some time to relax with my family, play some table-top RPGs, catch up on some superhero tv, and enjoy a slight break from Transformers. But only a slight one, for I do love the richness of the mythology, the intricacy of the tapestry, the depth of the lore. I believe Ask Vector Prime added something new to said mythology, and hope you do to.

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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:18 pm

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It was an amazing endeavor. Nine months of new material we'd otherwise never get anywhere else. Vector Prime, you shall be missed.
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Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:30 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian Cascadia has written a post on our boards informing us of the end of Ask Vector Prime. Here it is below along with a link to Jim Sorenson's facebook post.

Cascadia wrote:Jim Sorenson who has ran the Ask Vetcor Prime page on Facebook has announced that it has come to an end. He has enjoyed having answer many questions in regards to the Transformers universe. He really loved doing it but he felt that it needed to come to end after 9 months of running it.

It is lot of text of him thanking various people who helped make it possible.

So what is up next for Jim?

Well, expect more from the Axiom Nexus News crew, albeit sporadically. Beast Wars Uprising still has a few tales left. I expect I'll be writing up a special BotCon retrospective in a few months. And look for a couple of non-Transformers books from me from IDW Publishing before the end of the year. But for the next few weeks, I'll take some time to relax with my family, play some table-top RPGs, catch up on some superhero tv, and enjoy a slight break from Transformers. But only a slight one, for I do love the richness of the mythology, the intricacy of the tapestry, the depth of the lore. I believe Ask Vector Prime added something new to said mythology, and hope you do to.

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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:01 pm

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Everyone should read Jim's full post. It is a testament of the devotion and effort he and many others put into this endeavor. Truly worth the read.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby o.supreme » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:06 pm

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I thought ended when TF:Cybertron did ...like 10 years ago.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Cascadia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:10 pm

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Sorry that I did not post the entire post since it was very long. But it definitely showed how devotion and love people put into this project. All of the posts in the project were nicely done and gave some meaningful information.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:30 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I thought ended when TF:Cybertron did ...like 10 years ago.
Not that one. The Facebook one that's been going on since last May.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Cheetron » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:46 pm

I may not have walkways understood what was being said but I always enjoyed seeing a new post from it. Ask Vector prime will be sadly missed
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:57 pm

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Here's a copy of Jim's heartfelt full post:

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It’s Over... FINISHED!




It's Over... FINISHED!

At long last, the end of Ask Vector Prime is here. For about nine months of my life, I helped him answer questions about the magical and the mundane, the minutia and the magnificent. It was a project different from any I've done before. Sure, I've made more than my share of Transformers (and non-Transformers) books, comics, stories, and articles. But this, this was an unfiltered Q&A, a project that depended entirely on the interaction with the audience with a delay of not more than a few weeks, months at most. I got to see what really mattered, what fans were really interested in, and then observe the response to my nattering as it unfolded. [WARNING: Long ramble ahead]

I loved it.

Really, truly, I absolutely loved it. His voice is one that I've been dabbling in since the first AllSpark Almanac, when he penned the summary for a comic which was itself a retelling of the first three episodes of Animated and needed a way to "see" all the disparate POVs in the book. I love his wisdom, his warmth, his cluelessness, his majesty, his timelessness, his wit, even his willingness to occasionally shill some product for sale in the real world, and did my best to bring all of that to the table. Along the way, I decided that he, or some version of him, needed a happy ending, and so set up his incognito mission to Nebulos with Scorpia, his once and future romantic interest, and Safeguard, his longtime companion.

But it wasn't just Vector Prime, aka Vec-Tor, aka Vector Convoy, aka Vector Prima-Vectorum, that I loved. I loved the audience. Yes, even the once who asked annoying questions, and there were a few. In some ways I'm shocked by how much people cared. At our apex, we had a thousand subscribers, just north of ten thousand engaged users, and page impressions numbering in the 400,000 range. We inspired a discussion some five thousand comments long over on AllSpark.com, viewed well over 150,000 times. Ultimately, this was a fun little project with little side-stories told in very obscure corners of the Transformers multiverse. We tried to focus on continuities that had been all but forgotten, characters who had never received much if any fiction, and continuity disconnects that only those waving their geek flag the fullest and the proudest could be interested in. And yet, you came, and for that I will be forever grateful.

I also loved dabbling in different voices. Sideways was the first, and he was a hoot to be sure. Then, when Vector Prime went away to help Nexus end Singularities once and for all, I got to play around with Grimlock, Swindle, Animated Sentinel Prime, Movie Bumblebee, Cy-Kill, Sky-Byte, and a non-released toy with absolutely no fiction or history not penned by me, Spacewarp. They were all fun, in their own way, though I think the amazing work Kellen Goff did bringing Bumblebee to life as a series of audio files is underappreciated. If you haven't checked them out yet, go to Vector Prime's videos and listen to a few. Really, he caught lightning in a bottle. But what surprised me even more was that, when I conducted a poll as to which host the audience liked best, it was almost evenly split (with over 2000 votes total) between Cy-Kill and Spacewarp. And thus, both came back. Transformers: Spacewarp's Log, led to a new series of 30's style pulp encounters for Spacewarp, and Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric, allowed Cy-Kill to recount some 48 new 80's style stock cartoon plot misadventures.

Another aspect that made this project especially fulfilling was the many, MANY talented people I had the opportunity to work with and, in some cases, meet for the first time. There aren't enough words in the English language to properly thank Jesse Wittenrich and Pete Sinclair for giving me the chance to run this, start to finish. Jesse in particular provided invaluable editorial feedback and, in his own words, "kept me from going full Sorenson." He curbed my worst impulses and encouraged my best ones, and I could not have maintained the level of energy and quality and enthusiasm evidenced without his calm and steady feedback. He also provided some fantastic art, including the Vector Prime happy ending with Scorpia and Safeguard, and the profile picture for Spacewarp. (Not to mention profile pictures for Blackarachnia, Rook, Starscream, and some other Transtechies you'll be seeing in the not-too-distant future.)

Then there are my fellow writers. Hirofumi Ichikawa in particular wrote some amazing entries, tying up some of the Binaltech / Alternity loose ends and expanding some other areas of JG1 that I otherwise wouldn't have had the confidence or knowledge to tackle. He either wrote or at least edited (nearly) every entry that touched on the tangled mess that is the OG World and all that flows from it. His Air Attack Optimus Primal entry was a masterpiece, to be sure, but I personally cherished learning the Alternity designations for several new continuities. Then there's my long-time friend Chris McFeely, who provided feedback on a number of entries (and also, like Jesse, filed off some of my rougher edges) and wrote some terrific stories for Renegade Rhetoric. I feel fortunate that this forum has allowed me to get to know Alexis Carlo better, and afforded her the opportunity to write several entries, one of which (concerning transgendered Transformers) became our single most shared post. Likewise, I got to meet Louis Sun, who provided much Universe War expertise and became our unofficial copy editor. He has easily eliminated a few hundred typos and parsing flubs, giving the project a polish that was difficult for us to otherwise maintain given the frenetic pace. Christopher Colgin became our unofficial artist towards the end, drawing up some nifty Hanna Barbara style designs, and I'm glad to have his boundless enthusiasm in my life.

I could go on. Matt Karpowich, AKA Monzo, helped sanity check some of our early work. Vivian AKA Gearshift wrote up an entry or two and inspired one of the best episodes of Renegade Rhetoric. Andrew Hall, another long-time friend, shared some of his thoughts on Scrash, a character which he basically discovered and is uniquely qualified to write for. Professional creatives Dan Khanna, Matt Kuphaldt, Trent Troop, Glen Hallit, Simon Furman, and James Roberts all lent me their expertise on at least one answer. Bill Forster recolored Dominus Trannis from Rail Racer. Liam Shalloo made some awesome human versions of the GoBot main cast. Betsy Blackie and Brandy Dixon shared their beloved Rainmaker bios and art with the world. Matthew Reinhart shared some characters from his fantastic Transformers Pop-Up Book and some thoughts on what the design inspirations were.

And then there are the actors! Peter Spellos, Richard Newman, and David Sobolov all generously shared their time and talent, reprising the classic characters they helped create for various Transformers shows. Daniel Ross, Abby Collins, Jon Bailey, Shane Morrison, Marissa Meizel, and Laura Knapton each helped bring our videos to life. Jon was particularly a treat to work with, as I've been bumping into him at conventions for years, so allowing him to voice an official Optimus Prime felt very right. And I'll never be able to write for Rook without hearing Daniel's snide delivery in my head. Oh, so perfect.

Sorry, I know, long wall of text thanking a bunch of people. TL;DR version, I couldn't have done it alone, nor would I have wanted to. But with the help of all these people, not the least of which were the hundreds (thousands?) of people asking questions and the tens of thousands of people reading the answers, there wouldn't have been an Ask Vector Prime.

Thanks to all of you for engaging with me in this unique forum. I know I stumbled occasionally, and that a small but vocal number of people didn't enjoy it; I respect their position even if it's not one I share. But, stumbles aside, I am incredibly proud of the work, both the caliber we managed to produce and the sheer length of it. Just for fun I cut and pasted the entire thing into a Word document. It clocked in at well over 500 pages. Holy crap! I mean, that's a good-sized novel worth of free Transformers content, delivered daily. Among all that, we managed to significantly expand on gender diversity with the Transformers franchise, including creating the first female Optimus Prime. We explored Vector Prime's ancient history. We created a whopping 65 new schemes for Cy-Kill to spring on the Guardians--alas, each one ultimately ending in failure. With lots of help, we filled out the ranks of the Multiversal 13 just in advance of blowing them up. Jesse and I finished off the ranks of the Convoy. With Bill Forster's help we provided a little fiction for all of those weird but cool Human Alliance characters. I got to indulge in my yen for Mini-Cons, sorting many many more of them into teams. With a little guidance from Simon Furman, we were able to detail the future of forgotten splinter timelines like Rhythms of Darkness and Twilight's Last Gleaming. And let's not forget all of the masterful, painful, groan-inducing puns that we dropped along the way to dodge the questions we didn't want to (or weren't allowed to) answer.

What's next from me? Well, expect more from the Axiom Nexus News crew, albeit sporadically. Beast Wars Uprising still has a few tales left. I expect I'll be writing up a special BotCon retrospective in a few months. And look for a couple of non-Transformers books from me from IDW Publishing before the end of the year. But for the next few weeks, I'll take some time to relax with my family, play some table-top RPGs, catch up on some superhero tv, and enjoy a slight break from Transformers. But only a slight one, for I do love the richness of the mythology, the intricacy of the tapestry, the depth of the lore. I believe Ask Vector Prime added something new to said mythology, and hope you do to.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby GrimlockPrimal » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:12 am

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....damn, this is like a good friend you took for granted suddenly having to move to a new province (or state, for the 'Muricans :p).

AVP will be sadly missed in this fan's eyes, even if it did cause some debate.
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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:24 pm

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Although I never regularly perused Ask Vector Prime, I always admired the hard work put into it. Jim, I salute you!
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Postby ScottyP » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:10 am

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I respect the effort. Hopefully the rumblings about some of the material being literal trolling attempts are just that.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:30 pm

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ScottyP wrote:I respect the effort. Hopefully the rumblings about some of the material being literal trolling attempts are just that.
I think I might know what those rumblings might be referring to.

Among the vast amount of questions asked of Vector Prime, there were some particular questions asked that Vector Prime diverted from giving the desired answers to since these particular questions were iffy ones that either couldn't be answered (meaning Jim wasn't allowed to touch the subjects that the questions dealt with, or the questions were simply unanswerable for whatever reasons) or they were simply bad/dumb questions written by folks who were deliberately messing around with Ask Vector Prime.

The majority of the answered questions got answers that were either good, funny, or both. But for those specific ones described in the paragraph above, Jim did what he could to playfully skirt around answering them directly since he either couldn't or (in the cases of iffy questions) wouldn't. BUT, this kind of answer-skirting has precedence since the same was done for those kinds of questions that were asked on the original Ask Vector Prime feature that was put on Hasbro.com back in 2005. A few examples of this from the original:
Q: Was Primus Cool?

A: Cool? As in cold to the touch?! Heaven's no! Primus is warm and full of life! Ha!
Q: Can you boogie down?

A: When I was a younger Transformer, I was able to participate in many more activities. We once had a mini-con that transformed into a disco ball, but that was a long time ago.
Q: How much do you weigh?

A: That depends on which planet I am living.
Q: Do you know Alpha Q?

A: Yes

During the months when Vector Prime was replaced by someone else, either Sideways (who had kidnapped Vector and took over the page by force) or one of the guest columnists (Grimlock, Swindle, Animated Sentinel Minor, Movie Bumblebee, Cy-Kill, Sky-Byte, or Spacewarp), several of the questions asked were mostly given funny (or in Sideways's case, rude) answers to both lighten up the mood and get through a lot of the iffy questions.

But, one of the most controversial things about AVP's run was when Cy-Kill took over and then got his own Facebook page later, during which times people started to deliberately ask questions specific to things from the Challenge of the GoBots cartoon in an attempt to get that information onto the TFWiki since the Wiki had for years been adamant about not covering the GoBots franchise any more than necessary since GoBots isn't a Transformers property, but some people still really want the Wiki to cover GoBots. Since then, the Wiki has been trying to scale back as much newly-added GoBots information as it could to keep from letting it further clutter things up.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:05 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:But, one of the most controversial things about AVP's run was when Cy-Kill took over and then got his own Facebook page later, during which times people started to deliberately ask questions specific to things from the Challenge of the GoBots cartoon in an attempt to get that information onto the TFWiki since the Wiki had for years been adamant about not covering the GoBots franchise any more than necessary since GoBots isn't a Transformers property, but some people still really want the Wiki to cover GoBots. Since then, the Wiki has been trying to scale back as much newly-added GoBots information as it could to keep from letting it further clutter things up.


It doesn't help that Gobots is acknowledged as a legit universe for Transformers (Gargent cluster I believe), but fans often don't realize Hasbro does not own Gobots outright. The characters and trademarks are Hasbro's, the toys belong to Bandai (except for the Tonka originals, but not the outsourced ones) and the cartoon belongs to Hanna-Barbera. Plus, separate franchises, separate wikis.

There is a Gobots wikia, but it's an incomplete mess that's best left forgotten.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:28 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It doesn't help that Gobots is acknowledged as a legit universe for Transformers (Gargent cluster I believe),
To be fair, that idea was done by Jim as well, in the AVP text hidden in the AllSpark Almanac II book (which was apparently concocted entirely by the book's writers with no actual Q&A from the fans).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:but fans often don't realize Hasbro does not own Gobots outright. The characters and trademarks are Hasbro's, the toys belong to Bandai (except for the Tonka originals, but not the outsourced ones) and the cartoon belongs to Hanna-Barbera. Plus, separate franchises, separate wikis.
Right. Jim's a big GoBots fan and did what he did for fun. But a lot of fans took his work way too seriously and have tried to use what was supposed to be harmless fun as a means to force more GoBots coverage onto the Wiki.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:There is a Gobots wikia, but it's an incomplete mess that's best left forgotten.
Yeah, and everyone likes the idea of there being a separate GoBots Wiki but, sadly, no one wants to actually go through the effort of making it a reality.
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Jim's a big GoBots fan and did what he did for fun. But a lot of fans took his work way too seriously and have tried to use what was supposed to be harmless fun as a means to force more GoBots coverage onto the Wiki.
Yeah, see, this here is no big deal at all. Thanks for clearing it up. Rumors, you know?
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Re: Ask Vector Prime has come to an end

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:33 am

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ScottyP wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Jim's a big GoBots fan and did what he did for fun. But a lot of fans took his work way too seriously and have tried to use what was supposed to be harmless fun as a means to force more GoBots coverage onto the Wiki.
Yeah, see, this here is no big deal at all. Thanks for clearing it up. Rumors, you know?
Sure thing.

Other than that, the only other things I can think of that some people disliked were the rare convoluted answers given about things like "Character X is really also Character Y from Universe A having been sent to Universe C, getting a new body and/or new name in a stopover at Universe B along the way" or something nuts like that.

Thankfully, those kinds of answers were far and few overall.
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