Hierophant wrote:Alternatively, One can speculate what are they going to do with the future figs. We've all seen that the later waves the retools get considerable mass in their weapons (I mean look at sideswipe's gun! or the Wreckers' armaments! it's like a response to repay the debt to the fans for the lack of mass in the current figs) and perhaps the later molds *may* be a tad complex? Hasbro prolly plays the ol' 'testing waters' phase to see if simpler transformation do any good to the target customers... I swore people complained on how hard WFC figures were to transform back then
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Hierophant wrote:Alternatively, One can speculate what are they going to do with the future figs. We've all seen that the later waves the retools get considerable mass in their weapons (I mean look at sideswipe's gun! or the Wreckers' armaments! it's like a response to repay the debt to the fans for the lack of mass in the current figs) and perhaps the later molds *may* be a tad complex? Hasbro prolly plays the ol' 'testing waters' phase to see if simpler transformation do any good to the target customers... I swore people complained on how hard WFC figures were to transform back then
Sounds plausible.
Don't remember where I read this from, but the simplification supposedly started in response of parents' complaints that their kids couldn't figure out the complex transformations of the ROTF toys, which resulted in the increasingly simpler DOTM line. This trend continued into the first wave of PRID toys, and onto FoC.
Dagon wrote:I've got Shockwave, and he feels light, fragile and he's small. I know none of that is anything that hasn't been discussed in here already.
I still want to hope Bruticus will be ok, but I know it's all signs pointing to not on that. Shame.
waaaaghlord wrote:As far as designs getting simpler goes this is just something that happens in cycles and we have seen it before. The RiD line was seen as being overly complex and was followed by the over simplified Armada. Complexity crept back in until the movie toys (arguably) overdid it and we're now seeing a reset back to simpler designs. More complex design will creep back into the main lines until we see a similar situation five or ten years down the line. It's just the way things are.
Autobot032 wrote:I can overlook complexity, for a moment. And you do make a good point, but there's still the other problems:
Downsizing, plastic quality, construction quality.
Jazz813 wrote:True they aren't great, but it's the best thing what we can get at the moment. I just hope that this downgrade will not be a new trend from Hasbro or Takara/Tomy in the next future.
Autobot032 wrote:Jazz813 wrote:True they aren't great, but it's the best thing what we can get at the moment. I just hope that this downgrade will not be a new trend from Hasbro or Takara/Tomy in the next future.
"but it's the best thing we can get at the moment" just feeds them a whole bunch of "HAH! We were right! They WILL buy them! Make 'em all like this." into their already messed up minds.
This trend will continue until someone actually puts on a BIG show for Hasbro that makes them see "Whoa. Okay. We're about to be lynched."
I've owned (and still do) several TakaraTomy releases. Sturdy. The plastic is solid. Even Masterpiece Rodimus with flawed design choices, is better built than today's offerings. In the time since Rodimus and the DOTM line, we've seen changes in plastic, size, quality, construction, and an increase in price.
Hasbro's Masterpiece Rodimus? Breaks. Without you ever laying a hand on it. Plastic's crap.
FOC? Like I said, I've seen sturdier plastic in disposable utensils. Jazz flexes. And now, TakaraTomy's using thin, and I mean really thin, plastic on their PRID/Arms Micron line. Breakdown's a fantastic figure, but most of his body shell is just that, a shell. Akin to an egg's. When TT cuts corners, that's a bad, bad sign.
This trend will continue. We have the power to stop it.
RodimalToyota wrote:Some common sense.
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