Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
jindrak wrote:OK, I can definitely give it a shot, especially knowing that it develops more as the seasons progress!
Are there any series to wait until last to watch? I've heard Armada and Energon are pretty poor.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:jindrak wrote:OK, I can definitely give it a shot, especially knowing that it develops more as the seasons progress!
Are there any series to wait until last to watch? I've heard Armada and Energon are pretty poor.
RiD and Beast Machines were gutwrenchingly horrid.
jindrak wrote:Oddly, I find the fact that the Predacons and Maximals are balanced 5 on 5 rather than the 10 to one odds the poor Autobots seem to suffer in every other series
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
G1 one is even more old and aged than Beast Wars. If you can get passed the "80s retro" feel of G1, then Beast Wars should feel like a similar "90s retro" feel to it.jindrak wrote:So with both ends of the current series covered, I naturally want to get into everything that's transpired during my long hiatus. Beastwars complete series is on netflix! Perfect!
But..I just cant get past how much it shows it's age. The sound effects and CGI are straight out of Everquests era, and I just am unable to just enjoy it for what it is.
In a word, yes! It was far more complex and compellingly made with its deep character-driven plots and story arcs. Aside from G1, it is most likely the most influential Transformers series ever made, with every series to come after it owing something to it. It is widely regarded as one of (if not THE) best Transformers cartoons of all time.jindrak wrote:So tell me; is beastwars the G1 of the generation after mine?
Some might think of it nostalgically, but for the most part, it was really well made and even fans who didn't grow up it, having been born later, have watched it and enjoyed it greatly.jindrak wrote:Is it beloved because it was what people grew up with and their nostalgia glasses let them overlook the age of the series?
Well, like I said, it's a "retro 90s" series. It was one of the first CGI cartoons of its time and is ntarually not going to be quite up-to-date with the technical production quality of today's CGI shows.jindrak wrote:I hear great things about it from just about everyone on every board, and don't want to miss out, but it's tough to get psyched up about.
Help!
Here's a rundown of every cartoon after Beast Wars:jindrak wrote:OK, I can definitely give it a shot, especially knowing that it develops more as the seasons progress!
Are there any series to wait until last to watch? I've heard Armada and Energon are pretty poor.
The numbers mostly remain even for the entire series run, even when both sides gain (and lose) more members.PrymeStriker wrote:jindrak wrote:Oddly, I find the fact that the Predacons and Maximals are balanced 5 on 5 rather than the 10 to one odds the poor Autobots seem to suffer in every other series
In the overall series, there a few more Predacons than Maximals. I don't remember how they kept the balance in each season, though. It's been a long time since I have seen Beast Wars.
Subtitles are no reason to skip a series. Granted, while a child may not take to them, you could still watch them yourself.Nutimus Prime wrote:Im watching all the Transformers series with my daughter, most for my first time too. At least what I find age appropriate so we skipped Japanese stuff because of the subtitles
Beast Machines is probably the most intellectually stimulating of any Transformers cartoon, being very highbrow and philosophical in its story.Nutimus Prime wrote:and will probably skip Beast Machines from what Ive heard.
"The rest... is silence."Nutimus Prime wrote:We started with G1 and we just finished season 2 of Beast Wars. She loves it and I do too. My little brothers watched Beast Wars when it aired but I never really did. Now that Im going through Transformers history I have to say Beast Wars IS amazing. Characters, story, everything. I dont usually judge older stuff too harshly on visual quality, etc. because technology always gets better. You cant flat out say a movie is crap because its black and white and was filmed in the 20s. Other aspects need to be evaluated. Classics and all that.
We watched "Code of Hero" last night and I just thought wow she may not really be getting this all right now but I am and holy crap. Now I see why its a fan favorite. "A deed once done cannot be undone.." Thats all Ill say.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Kewl.jindrak wrote:Quite honestly though, I am so friggin cuckoo for TFs right now, I'll most likely watch everything I can get my hands on Feels good to be young again.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Chaoslock wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:jindrak wrote:OK, I can definitely give it a shot, especially knowing that it develops more as the seasons progress!
Are there any series to wait until last to watch? I've heard Armada and Energon are pretty poor.
RiD and Beast Machines were gutwrenchingly horrid.
RiD was... But Beast Machines is a must-see-once for every tf fan. It's a lot darker than BW, and the ending is not optimal, but it is a good continuation of BW.
Sabrblade wrote:Subtitles are no reason to skip a series. Granted, while a child may not take to them, you could still watch them yourself.
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Machines is probably the most intellectually stimulating of any Transformers cartoon, being very highbrow and philosophical in its story.
BeastProwl wrote:If your going to watch Prime with your daughter, note that it's more mature than Beast Machines! It has real Robo-Gore. Beast Machines is dark, yeah. But not as dark as prime.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Ah, right then.Nutimus Prime wrote:When I say child I mean my preschool age daughter. So she definitely wont be taking to reading the subtitles lol.
Agreed.Nutimus Prime wrote:Im already pushing some boundaries as far as what Im allowing her to watch, Transformers wise I mean, but she knows the difference between pretend and real so its working well at the moment. No Bay movies thats for sure lol.
Right on.Nutimus Prime wrote:Ill be grabbing all 3 G1 Japanese series to watch for myself and when shes a bit older we can start them.
It's more like she may not quite understand all that's going on aside from "good guys fighting bad guys". If anything, she might be a bit bored with it if it doesn't keep her attention going.Nutimus Prime wrote:As for Beast Machines I will definitely watch it after Beast Wars but Im debating her introduction to it. I may watch each episode, make sure its appropriate, then watch with her.
If you haven't seen them, don't skip them. Regardless of their quality, they are important parts of the Transformers brand history and were the biggest things of their time. And they're especially good for kids in their own ways:Nutimus Prime wrote:When we finish Beast Wars/ Beast Machines I have some decisions to make. I wanted to watch all english series in chronological order but Im debating skipping over Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron and Animated. If so we are jumping right to Prime and Rescue Bots. Im excited for Prime and Rescue Bots looks very fun for kids.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I think she would like Armada and Animated, especially the latter. It's very fun and visual. As for Beast Machines, definitely wait until later with it. You can watch it and make your own mind up about it, but it's not really for kids. Very dark and depressing. Personally, I think it's the worst TF series after Cybertron, but that's just my opinion.
I dunno what you guys are talking about, but I LOVED Beast Machines as kid (I was still in grade school when it came on), and I had those kinds of parent who shielded me from everything and anything objectionable. Yet, Beast Machines was considered okay and I came to like it even moreso as I got older and understood it better.PrymeStriker wrote:BeastProwl wrote:If your going to watch Prime with your daughter, note that it's more mature than Beast Machines! It has real Robo-Gore. Beast Machines is dark, yeah. But not as dark as prime.
Beast Machines isn't really as dark in my opinion, but it sure is creepier and more depressing than Prime. Beast Machines gave me nightmares as a child, especially that Blackarachnia.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I dunno what you guys are talking about, but I LOVED Beast Machines as kid (I was still in grade school when it came on), and I had those kinds of parent who shielded me from everything and anything objectionable. Yet, Beast Machines was considered okay and I came to like it even moreso as I got older and understood it better.PrymeStriker wrote:BeastProwl wrote:If your going to watch Prime with your daughter, note that it's more mature than Beast Machines! It has real Robo-Gore. Beast Machines is dark, yeah. But not as dark as prime.
Beast Machines isn't really as dark in my opinion, but it sure is creepier and more depressing than Prime. Beast Machines gave me nightmares as a child, especially that Blackarachnia.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Well, okay, that makes sense.PrymeStriker wrote:When Beast Machines was out, I was in pre-school.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
There are TONS of varying opinions on all of these shows, so your best bet would be to few them for yourself and form your own.Nutimus Prime wrote:So Robots in Disguise and Animated arent as bad as some people make them out to be? As long as my daughter likes it we will watch it then. Hub has been airing Animated in widescreen HD so I was hoping to see it rereleased or wait until I can record it.
I know the Unicron Trilogy has a lot of opinions on quality whether it be plot, animation, dubbing, etc. We may end up watching it. But every series we watch adds more time before I can watch the show I was interested in starting, Prime lol.
Is Prime that bad for young ones? Ive skimmed some episodes because Im buying the Blu-rays in anticipation of us starting it but I havent seen anything crazy yet. Like I said Ive only watched pieces at a time. I know Cliffjumper goes byebye in the first episode or so but I havent actually watched it yet. I guess Prime may be a show I watch each episode first then decide if its ok to watch with her.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:There are TONS of varying opinions on all of these shows, so your best bet would be to few them for yourself and form your own.
For me, I hold no delusions over Robots in Disguise, it is nothing great. But I loved it as a kid and consider it a guilty pleasure of mine.
The Unicron Trilogy is a mixed bag. Armada got better as it went on, Energon got worse as it went on, and Cybertron was decent all around.
Go-Bots is just pure zany lulz and catchiness.
Animated really only gets hated on because of its cartoony art style and quirky characters. But it's really a diamond in the rough with great storytelling and characterization.
Prime is only really dark in certain episodes, but it's only the robots that the violence affects, so there's nothing overtly gruesome on the human side. And it does have its fair share of lighter-toned fun episodes with humor and such.
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