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Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:17 pm**

Our Seibertron.com gallery of the BotCon 2012 Transformers Generations "Fall of Cybertron" Voyager Soundwave, his data disc, and Deluxe Kickback are up. Click hereor any of the images below for the full gallery.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:26 pm**

That Kickback is incredibly ugly. Not impressed.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:26 pm**

I was pretty disappointed that the Voyager Soundwave was actually another WfC or FoC one. Wasn't the deluxe one good enough? The new features on him including his little... robot friends (diskicons?)... are pretty cool, but I still don't think it really warranted him getting another figure, especially if we could have gotten another character out of it. I'm pretty sure that most of us were hoping the Voyager Soundwave in the Generations line was going to be a G1 one, and he would have worked with the Legends Casseticons too, like how this one will have his little allies. At least they're also making a Soundblaster repaint of him, I suppose for those who are happy with their Deluxe Soundwaves.

Kickback looks interesting enough.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:47 pm**

Megazarak wrote:I was pretty disappointed that the Voyager Soundwave was actually another WfC or FoC one. Wasn't the deluxe one good enough? The new features on him including his little... robot friends (diskicons?)... are pretty cool, but I still don't think it really warranted him getting another figure, especially if we could have gotten another character out of it. I'm pretty sure that most of us were hoping the Voyager Soundwave in the Generations line was going to be a G1 one, and he would have worked with the Legends Casseticons too, like how this one will have his little allies. At least they're also making a Soundblaster repaint of him, I suppose for those who are happy with their Deluxe Soundwaves.

Kickback looks interesting enough.

I totally disagree with this - this new Soundwave fig is a step in the right direction. If anything, we could have totally do without a bajillionth version of Optimus Prime and, fortunately, this new FoC Optimus fig's disappointment was offset by both Shockwave and Soundwave.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:48 pm**

There are no words to describe the awesomeness these eyes have just witnessed...

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:51 pm**

Seriously?!?! This is the best Hasbro could do to pay homage to the Decepticon cassettes? To make a stiff Frenzy, a stumpy-legged Ravage with lumpy body and once again non-hinged paws, and a Laserbeak with thick wings that are in no way aerodynamic. Shameful. I'll stick with my 3rd Party Perfect Effect not-Rumble and not-Frenzy, Hasbro's Cybertron Laserbeak and Buzzsaw, and Hasbro's Classics Ravage.

Kickback looks okay, too bad the insect mode isn't transformed correctly (or at least it doesn't appear to be). I still like FansProject's version better.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:15 pm**

Never before has a Cybertronian passed so effectively for a coffee table. Well done, Ravage!

Will prolly pick up nevertheless.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:15 pm**

Looks like Hasbro has been paying attention to those third parties they hate so much, as well as the customs on Shapeways

.

Make Soundwave bigger, and give him some sort of tiny bots that turn into something that fits in his chest.

Good on you Hasbro, good on you. Between this, the new subscription figure thing for us collectors, MP-10 being done CORRECTLY in the US, and countless other things I've seen in these latest reveals, it seems Hasbro is FINALLY listening to the vocal minority of their customers, namely, the collectors.

Only a few problems remain (for me) that I hope they'll solve with these new releases, but only time will tell:

Use some paint...seriously...USE SOME PAINT!!!!!
Stop shrinking the figures, especially if it's for some stupid, cheap little weapon that the kiddies they're made for will only lose or break.
Stop using cheap/soft plastics that lose their ability to line up when you make countless thin panels out of them after transforming them only once or twice.

I don't want to sound so negative, as I'm actually very impressed with all of this stuff that Hasbro has been revealing, but I'm just hoping they'll continue to listen to the community and at least attempt to fix the issues that remain, assuming they can still turn a profit doing so.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:20 pm**

I was pretty disappointed that the Voyager Soundwave was actually another WfC or FoC one. Wasn't the deluxe one good enough?

I'm pretty disappointed as well. I think the deluxe one is fine.
I'm really not a fan of making the same figure again in different sizes. I just can't help but think "why?". I like soundwave very much, but this isn't like, a welcome surprise, it's just confusing. I thnik onslaught really could have benefited from the voyager size, and then really made bruticus look more solid.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:23 pm**

Insecticon's kind of WUT, especially whatever the hell that alt mode is supposed to be, but honestly it's decent in bot mode. If anything it'll fill up the Decepticon WFC/FoC shelf quite nicely.

Soundwave, I'm a little displeased he's the exact same design as the WFC version which I already have, but honestly he's so damn awesome I don't even care. And the minions are just freaking amazing, and releasing more of them under Cyberverse is just ingenious. I will have them all!

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:35 pm**

So instead of the bountiful roster of characters they have, we get... ugh, mark keeps getting missed.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:41 pm**

Personally, I'm PSYCHED for Voyager Soundwave! I didn't get a chance to pick up the WfC one and this looks great! Plus, I'll even have a reasonably LARGE soundwave! The fact that Universe Blaster completely towers over PRID Soundwave saddens me. xD Gotta have a Soundwave that's in-scale with his arch nemesis!

Now I'm glad I didn't end up pulling the trigger on that third party Soundwave I saw awhile ago. And to top it off? Soundwave's casset...diskicons? Sure, I'll go with that.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:05 pm**

This makes me happy I never got the Deluxe Soundwave. And Kickback looks freaking awesome! Can't wait to get the both of them!

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:17 pm**

SlyTF1 wrote:This makes me happy I never got the Deluxe Soundwave. And Kickback looks freaking awesome! Can't wait to get the both of them!

What's sad is that I actually did sorta get a chance to get WFC Soundwave almost a year ago. Only thing that stopped me from getting him was I forgot the $10. Never saw him again. :-(

So seeing this gives me a (no Star Wars pun intended... okay, maybe it was a little intended) new hope. :grin:

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:34 pm**

Man, and I paid Voyager prices just for the Deluxe one after having no luck finding it... Oh well, I'll happily add a Voyager Soundwave to my collection, especially since he has his minions with him, as well. Though admittedly, I'm not too big on the Frenzy/Rumble mold they're using.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:40 pm**

Blurrz wrote: So instead of the bountiful roster of characters they have, we get... ugh, mark keeps getting missed.

This is Hasbro we're talking. Just like 343 Industries; taking a huge franchise (Halo, in this case), and thinking they're improving it, instead, ahem, !@#$ it up. /:)

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:42 pm**

There is nothing that makes my draw drop and hit the floor here.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:47 pm**

tigertracks 24 wrote:There is nothing that makes my draw drop and hit the floor here.

You towel! :sad:

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:59 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:
Blurrz wrote: So instead of the bountiful roster of characters they have, we get... ugh, mark keeps getting missed.

This is Hasbro we're talking. Just like 343 Industries; taking a huge franchise (Halo, in this case), and thinking they're improving it, instead, ahem, !@#$ it up.

Except 343 was Bungie's Halo department, they just moved over to Microsoft's franchise....

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:11 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:There are no words to describe the awesomeness these eyes have just witnessed...

My sentiments exactly. there is so much awsome stuff this year im gonna have to cut back on other things it seems

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:21 pm**

Blurrz wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Blurrz wrote: So instead of the bountiful roster of characters they have, we get... ugh, mark keeps getting missed.

This is Hasbro we're talking. Just like 343 Industries; taking a huge franchise (Halo, in this case), and thinking they're improving it, instead, ahem, !@#$ it up.

Except 343 was Bungie's Halo department, they just moved over to Microsoft's franchise....

Yet again, scheme failed.

Retreat!

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:44 pm**

If you didn't buy this:

Or this:

you can now buy this:

umm.... yeah.... I'll stick to my Perfect Effect Frumble.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:48 pm**

*sigh* And now we're reminded that the Generations release of that Frenzy/Rumble is STILL canceled. :BANG_HEAD:

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:50 pm**

"Kickback" is right. As in "someone at Hasbro or High Moon Studios design departments is taking kickbacks from FansProject to design a crappy looking Insecticon!"

Soundwave looks good though, in a "same as the last figure" way. Of course, he'll be a smidgen bigger, hopefully, and does have the whole minicon thing going on now, so that's a plus. That and it saves me hunting down the earlier version. That Fremble looks pretty terrible though, and Ravage isn't all that much better. Laserbeak is ok though. Would be cool to see more of the Cassetticon characters done in this way, but...good.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:53 pm**

Trikeboy wrote:If you didn't buy this:

Or this:

you can now buy this:

umm.... yeah.... I'll stick to my Perfect Effect Frumble.

Got the first, wasn't satisfied because his waist broke.

Wanted to get the second, never got the cash to get him, even before he was canceled.

I'd rather go for Frisbee here than nothing.

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