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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

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Bee and maybe Optimus (somehow) are the only Autobots in this movie.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:54 am

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Latest issue of Entertainment Weekly has revealed two muscle car Decepticons (One being the red car)

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The two Decepticons are the main villains of the movie, there is Shatter who is voiced by Angela Bassett and is the red car and appears to be a triple changer accounting for the helicopter blades on her shoulder, the other guy is called Dropkick (Doubt it but wonder if he is anything like the 2007 character, they have similar color schemes so maybe) he is voiced by Justin Theroux and transforms into a blue AMC Javelin, this makes me think Barricade isn't actually in the film (tis a shame if true) because I hear that Jess Harnell's previous statement was vague or something.

Nice article with info including how the two cons have personality and character.

Their designs are a nice blend of the best parts of the complex movie aesthetic with some of the more smooth and round G1-lite designs, these cons are less monstrous and more colorful then most previous cons which is nice and refreshing. (Thank god the fem isn't a traditional shapely one)

(I got the original pic from Tfw yes but I'm attempting to see if EW has a digital magazine so I can get some pics of my own)
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:09 am

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They look cool and interesting to see the Dropkick name reused. Shatter's a triple changer? That didn't work out in toy form for Drift though. Anyways yes, more toys please.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:10 am

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A previous rumor also pegged the red female Decepticon car (now revealed to be Shatter) as the leader of the Cons in this movie.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:38 am

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Ew's website posted the full article and a bigger picture there. http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/13/bumbleb ... on-sharing

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Bumblebee is no longer disguising its bad guys.

Set in the yesteryear of 1987, the new Transformers film (out Dec. 21) finds the wounded yellow Autobot taking shelter with a teenager mechanic (Hailee Steinfeld) while trying to avoid two Decepticon trackers.

As the film prepares for its Comic-Con showcase in San Diego next week, EW has the exclusive reveal.

One of the Decepticons is Shatter, who takes the form of a cherry-red Plymouth Satellite. She will be voiced by Angela Bassett.

Dropkick, whose vehicle form is a blue AMC Javelin, will be voiced by Justin Theroux.


Bumblebee is very much a throwback to the original 1980s cartoon, with the hero returning to his Volkswagen Beetle form instead of a Camaro. But the film is breaking tradition by giving the Decepticons wheels instead of wings.

“The two main villains are Decepticon muscle cars,” says director Travis Knight (Kubo and the Two Strings).

There is one flying villain, whose identity and voice actor are still under wraps, but otherwise, these bad guys will be prowling the roads rather than the skies while pursuing their prey.

Although the film focuses only on this trio of Decepticons, the filmmaker promises these two will have more personality than usual.

“When the cast is too big, and you have a finite amount of time, there’s only so much you can do to create an investment in them,” Knight says. “This is a more personal, intimate, and character-driven story, so it felt right to keep the villain plot relatively simple and contained. If you keep things lean, you can add a lot of other stuff on top of it that makes it more enjoyable.”

In other words, there is more to Shatter and Dropkick than meets the eye.




Carnivius_Prime wrote:They look cool and interesting to see the Dropkick name reused. Shatter's a triple changer? That didn't work out in toy form for Drift though. Anyways yes, more toys please.


I remember an earlier rumor that both cars were triple changers somewhere.

I don't remember everything I read I just read the tfw2005 movie threads constantly because that's where information and rumors come from usually.

Edit: There is a cockpit on the blue guy's chest. (Bigger picture)

Edit 2: Those are not helicopter blades on Shatter's shoulders but actual plane wings on both shoulders.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:43 am

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Would have been interesting if they had done it so the cars combined into the helicopter...though where does the jet fit into all of this then? Does starscream still act second in command to shatter? (Of course that's assuming that it was him and not ramjet...I forget which rumour was true or false)
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:49 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Would have been interesting if they had done it so the cars combined into the helicopter...though where does the jet fit into all of this then? Does starscream still act second in command to shatter? (Of course that's assuming that it was him and not ramjet...I forget which rumour was true or false)


Just to clarify the rumor that apparently came from a long time member of Tfw2005 (Which is the biggest reason why people believe this stuff is possible legit) who was at some early screening was that the jet wasn't Starscream, not that the jet was Ramjet (That's something fans came up with because he's the only other seeker with the closest resemblance to the jet con)

It is likely to not be Starscream because of (Potential spoilers) Said early screening had the Seeker dying at the start of the movie. but things could have changed since.


In my opinion? I think it's possible that it was going to be someone like Ramjet but after the news came out that Bumblebee might be a reboot I think they might have changed it to actually being Starscream and not dying

Edit: Does anyone else remember what else was included in the earlier rumors that claimed that the two Decepticon cars were triple changers? Because since that info is confirmed to be true there is a chance the other rumor stuff is also true.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:57 am

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Thanks deadput :-) I didn't see your edit till after I had posted sobdisrehard everything I said about a helicopter as you are right and those are plane wings
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:01 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks deadput :-) I didn't see your edit till after I had posted sobdisrehard everything I said about a helicopter as you are right and those are plane wings


Yeah I'm trying to keep up with the websites and such and updating as I go.

I'll be keeping my eye out for further news and rumors especially since SDCC will probably bring us some info.

Anyways it seems that Barricade might not be in the film after all however the two cons share many similar features to TLK Barricade's design so maybe he is involved in some role? (If Shatter and Dropkick die it could give Barricade a reason to be rivals with Bee)
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:13 am

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Now that we have a bigger look, Dropkick's head reminds me of that of Evac from the Universal Studios ride.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:13 am

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Two Decepticon Muscle Car Transformers from Bumblebee Movie Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 am

This is some exciting time for fans anticipating the upcoming Bumblebee movie. Yesterday we had the official reveal of the first Bumblebee toy from the film's main toyline and today we have our first look at two new robots: Shatter and Dropkick.

Both are said to be muscle cars, though shatter has some helicopter blades on her shoulder. The reveal comes to us from Entertainment Weekly and we thank Seibertronian Deadput for sending the news our way. You can see both decepticons very clearly in the image below after the blurb from Entertainment Weekly.


Bumblebee is no longer disguising its bad guys.

Set in the yesteryear of 1987, the new Transformers film (out Dec. 21) finds the wounded yellow Autobot taking shelter with a teenager mechanic (Hailee Steinfeld) while trying to avoid two Decepticon trackers.

As the film prepares for its Comic-Con showcase in San Diego next week, EW has the exclusive reveal.

One of the Decepticons is Shatter, who takes the form of a cherry-red Plymouth Satellite. She will be voiced by Angela Bassett.

Dropkick, whose vehicle form is a blue AMC Javelin, will be voiced by Justin Theroux.

Bumblebee is very much a throwback to the original 1980s cartoon, with the hero returning to his Volkswagen Beetle form instead of a Camaro. But the film is breaking tradition by giving the Decepticons wheels instead of wings.

“The two main villains are Decepticon muscle cars,” says director Travis Knight (Kubo and the Two Strings).

There is one flying villain, whose identity and voice actor are still under wraps, but otherwise, these bad guys will be prowling the roads rather than the skies while pursuing their prey.

Although the film focuses only on this trio of Decepticons, the filmmaker promises these two will have more personality than usual.

“When the cast is too big, and you have a finite amount of time, there’s only so much you can do to create an investment in them,” Knight says. “This is a more personal, intimate, and character-driven story, so it felt right to keep the villain plot relatively simple and contained. If you keep things lean, you can add a lot of other stuff on top of it that makes it more enjoyable.”

In other words, there is more to Shatter and Dropkick than meets the eye.

To read more and get a preview of Comic-Con 2018, pick up the new issue of Entertainment Weekly on stands Friday, or buy it here now.


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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:21 am

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Here is a giant pic if you want to update the article. (Also their wings not helicopter blades, Shatter has landing gear in her torso, jet intakes on her legs and Dropkick has a cockpit in his chest as well)

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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:23 am

Deadput wrote:Here is a giant pic if you want to update the article.

Already got it, thanks!

These look good, I like seeing that alt mode kibble, but it does bring more of an aesthetic of the older Bay films
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:28 am

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Deadput wrote:Here is a giant pic if you want to update the article.

Already got it, thanks!

These look good, I like seeing that alt mode kibble, but it does bring more of an aesthetic of the older Bay films

(Pic I posted is a much bigger one, putting the photo in a new tab should show the size)

The kibble is pretty great and I'm happy to see these designs, I think the biggest problem wasn't the aesthetics in of itself but more so that characters didn't resemble past versions of themselves for the most part and that Decepticons were given monstrous designs to visually distinct themselves from the Autobots.

My own personal opinion of course, I think that from a spectacle standpoint that the live action film aesthetic is more interesting to look at on the big screen then the simple designs from G1, Although Bee does a great job of being a perfect blend of the two.

Edit: I think Dropkick turns into a helicopter actually, he seems to have possible rotor on his back and the cockpit in his chest looks more like a helicopter cockpit then a jet one. So there goes the theory that the two combined into a jet.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

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Shatter and Dropkick, huh? Interesting! Shatter's face looks pretty scary, kinda getting Hannibal Lecter vibes. Both of them look pretty cool and I'll happily buy SS figures of them.

Also, nice to see the name Dropkick getting reused.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:28 am

Deadput wrote:
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Deadput wrote:Here is a giant pic if you want to update the article.

Already got it, thanks!

These look good, I like seeing that alt mode kibble, but it does bring more of an aesthetic of the older Bay films

(Pic I posted is a much bigger one, putting the photo in a new tab should show the size)

The kibble is pretty great and I'm happy to see these designs, I think the biggest problem wasn't the aesthetics in of itself but more so that characters didn't resemble past versions of themselves for the most part and that Decepticons were given monstrous designs to visually distinct themselves from the Autobots.

My own personal opinion of course, I think that from a spectacle standpoint that the live action film aesthetic is more interesting to look at on the big screen then the simple designs from G1, Although Bee does a great job of being a perfect blend of the two.

Edit: I think Dropkick turns into a helicopter actually, he seems to have possible rotor on his back and the cockpit in his chest looks more like a helicopter cockpit then a jet one. So there goes the theory that the two combined into a jet.


They both seem to have a little helicopter kibble going on in their shoulders. They might actually be triple changers, or have some type of Safeguard situation going on.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:31 am

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Edit: I think Dropkick turns into a helicopter actually, he seems to have possible rotor on his back and the cockpit in his chest looks more like a helicopter cockpit then a jet one. So there goes the theory that the two combined into a jet.

Maybe they combine to form a helicopter? Like Battletrap except their combined mode is a vehicle. Either way, I really like the look of them! Glad that they keep the complexity of the usual Bayverse designs.

This does bring up an interesting point, though. There were supposedly going to be 4 Transformers in the movie, so that would be Bee, Starscream, Shatter, and Dropkick. But wasn’t Jess Harnell returning as Barricade? Maybe it’ll just be a cameo or something.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:49 am

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Shatter is probably just a car with a flying car mode like Tracks...who gets badly damaged ...and given to Matt Tracker to repair...

I didn't realise this was being done by a guy from Laika, I might end up paying to see this film at some point.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:00 am

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I may be premature in my assessment, but it seems to me these two new Decepticons might be more like Renegades form Gobots. Meaning that, they don't present a real threat, and are not really threatening and scary like some Decepticons from past films, probably wont be threatening/killing any humans, but will more fit the tone of the film. I can see Starscream as more of a potential threat, but I think these two are going to be toned way down.

Also, was it just my imagination, or had I heard somewhere that this film might be going for a PG rating (rather than PG-13)??
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:16 am

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o.supreme wrote:I may be premature in my assessment, but it seems to me these two new Decepticons might be more like Renegades form Gobots. Meaning that, they don't present a real threat, and are not really threatening and scary like some Decepticons from past films, probably wont be threatening/killing any humans, but will more fit the tone of the film. I can see Starscream as more of a potential threat, but I think these two are going to be toned way down.

Also, was it just my imagination, or had I heard somewhere that this film might be going for a PG rating (rather than PG-13)??


I mean it would be fresh to get some more "lighthearted" Decepticons but I don't think they necessarily will be, just because you have a personality doesn't mean you stop being a threat.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Maybe they combine to form a helicopter? Like Battletrap except their combined mode is a vehicle. Either way, I really like the look of them! Glad that they keep the complexity of the usual Bayverse designs.

This does bring up an interesting point, though. There were supposedly going to be 4 Transformers in the movie, so that would be Bee, Starscream, Shatter, and Dropkick. But wasn’t Jess Harnell returning as Barricade? Maybe it’ll just be a cameo or something.


Shatter has jet parts not helicopter parts (She has wings on her shoulders not blades) so unlikely, I think their not combiners, unless it's a fictional jet helicopter.

The guy who was at the screening basically said that "The movie only "stars" 4 robots, not that there would only be 4.

And considering that in the apparent early screening that The seeker who isn't Starscream died at the start of the film, I'm guessing possibly perishing while chasing Bee which leads to the latter eventually being discovered by Charlie I think that the Seeker isn't among those 4 and is the cameo while Barricade who hasn't been shown is the last of the 4.

Edit: Oh yeah I forgot about that one of the other things the guy said was that Megatron has a cameo in the film frozen like 2007 but he has a G1 like design with a bucket head and arm cannon, also Optimus has a cameo and has a more smooth g1-ish design like Bee does so if that's true then that's like 7 robots in total including cameos. Bumblebee, Shatter, Dropkick, Barricade, Seeker-Bro (Starscream or Ramjet-or-any-other-seeker-name) Optimus Prime (cameo) Megatron (Cameo)

I think I also heard rumors that Hot Rod was in a flashback cameo but I'm not sure if that's true, there has been plenty of rumors and I don't write or bookmark them which is really a pain when I need to bring these rumors up again. (I'd would suck as a journalist)
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:37 am

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Speaking of rumors the guy on Tfw2005 (Optimus_Prowl) who claims to have saw the screening back in March and was the one speaking of many of the rumors I already mentioned is saying some more story details in the Tfw2005 thread of this news.

I'm placing spoiler labels on these quotes of his so if you read them and they turn out to be true don't go blaming me for clicking on them.

About Shatter and Dropkick, (Plot spoilers, not in depth but still story stuff) "these were the two decepticons that become triple changers and help out and then betray sector 7. They have some great scenes in this movie"

He also says (I don't think this counts as spoilers since we already know they are triple changers) "Shatter turns into a jet, while dropkick turns into a helicopter. His blades hang off his back Blackout style."

As for how the triple changing is shown in the movie "The triple changing becomes a huge part of how they fight in the two big battle scenes we get with them. It gets decently creative with how they swap between modes. I think its pretty well reflected in how both robots have car and aerial parts on them the whole time."

And as for Barricade "unless they created brand new scenes and footage there wont be any sign of barricade. These two are the main antagonists of the film." Hmmmmm maybe His appearance might be like that certain character cameo in the end of Solo and not part of the main film.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:44 am

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The rumours about a megatron cameo is interesting, as if his appearance has changed in to a more g1 look then maybe this has gone more of a reboot direction. After all we all know how he looked when he crashed to earth and when he awoke under the hoover dam.
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Re: Bumblebee: The Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:48 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:The rumours about a megatron cameo is interesting, as if his appearance has changed in to a more g1 look then maybe this has gone more of a reboot direction. After all we all know how he looked when he crashed to earth and when he awoke under the hoover dam.


Uhhhhhh Allspark shenanigans?

In all seriousness though I do think they will try to make this movie a dull purpose one, to be both a prequel to the Bay films, but also the start of a reboot. (As for how that could work, the events of the movie would still be the same, it would be the movies after this one that would diverge into two different timelines)
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