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News Credits: 905 · by **Mach** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:48 am

Classic/Henkei Thundercracker and Skywarp are always sought after by Transformers collectors to complete the collection of seekers. These are also Botcon/Gentei exclusive figures, thus it is not unusual that these figures are expensive.
KO makers sense this business opportunity, though unethical, and created the KO Classic Skywarp & Thundercracker.
Actoys member sgxingx has posted the toy images of these KO.

by **Dclone Soundwave** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:04 am

Well, at least they're easily identified as KO's. The cockpits are a dead giveaway.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:19 am

Kitbash Fodder!

News Credits: 4 · by **OhioBot** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:45 am

Want.

by **Heckfire** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:19 am

At least now there's a slim chance of actually getting a Thundercracker for my collection.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:42 am

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Well, at least they're easily identified as KO's. The cockpits are a dead giveaway.

And the sticker copying on Thundercracker. I have to admit, if I didn't already have a Gencon TC and Classics Skywarp I'd be tempted to get this. Or try to since I have no idea how to acquire them. Originals are so much more enjoyable to show off then those cheap KOs anyways.

by **TheAllSpark** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:51 am

ok
2 questions:

Besides the obvious cokpit being blue what are the other problems with these figures?
And... where can I find these guys online? :grin:

I want to make some rainmakers

by **Rockdown** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:27 am

Sad but true, the quality of KOs could surpass that of henkei thundercracker and skywarp!

News Credits: 10 · by **Trikeboy** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:32 am

Thank god these are easily identifiable. Hopefully, if they are decent KOs, they are good for repainting into the rainmakers and Sunstorm.

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:50 am

I'd pick that Thudercracker up for sure. A K.O. place holder is equal to a custom placeholder, IMHO. If the quality is good enough I'd be tempted to sell my real Skywarp and replace him with this!

by **HeadmasterPrime** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:54 am

holy slag at least these arent at my stores

by **Poyguimogul** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:17 am

EWWW. They almost got it right on Skywarp. Thundercracker looks decent till you get to the wings, and the over sized con logos ; ;

~KOtoys has some decent stuff. Green g2 beachcomber classic legend.
Blue hound(legend) Orange Jazz(legend)~> Metrobomb / Skystalker? neither, no black or purple ><;

If you get the KO Ramjet + KO sunstorm you can make a complete KO Sunstorm, as the KO Sunstorm weapons come with the Ramjet.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:28 am

Ooh, if that Thundercracker had been released a few years ago, it would've broken the fandom in half.

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:59 am

very nice ill get them if there cheaper than the originals that i find are going for

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:11 am

Heckfire wrote:At least now there's a slim chance of actually getting a Thundercracker for my collection.

This does not get you a Thundercracker for your collection. It would be the equivalent of saying you had a Ferrari because you put a prancing horse on a Hyundai.

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:12 am

Well, it looks like someone heard me when I said why isn't there KOs of the more rare and highly sought-after figures out there like Classics Thundercracker.

Doesn't matter to me though, as I already have all of them, but if I ever see these I may buy them just to see what they're like. Now if they were to a Sunstorm and that other Rainmaker, then I'll have to buy them.

by **IceWilly** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:32 am

As much as many of us value licensed figures and accurate paint jobs... 100$ for thundercracker is just not realistic. I personally spent the money, but many others can't. No one will try to pass these off as anything but KO's in their collection, but even so who cares. I hope they are at least decent quality both for kitbashing but for others to get G1 characters.

In other news, my Takara Ramjet was incorrectly assembled. I had to pop a bunch of pins out and shave some plastic off so the hip ball joints were sitting flush. Really worried me. A couple replacement parts, however shoddy quality would be nicer to slide in their VS buying a new Henkei fig in case of damage

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:58 am

GetterDragun wrote:
Heckfire wrote:At least now there's a slim chance of actually getting a Thundercracker for my collection.

This does not get you a Thundercracker for your collection. It would be the equivalent of saying you had a Ferrari because you put a prancing horse on a Hyundai.

I love that comparison. :lol:

Technically, true, but I think the KO here is pretty good compromise for folk who can't make their own, or don't want to pay up. They can have a blue seeker to "complete" their set, but it won't be as pretty as the Gentei one, or as good quality as the Botcon one, or real. But for someone who just wants something to fill the spot, it kind of works.

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:08 am

Looking at these makes me glad I got the henkei ones so I don't even need to contemplate getting these.

News Credits: 905 · by **Mach** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:16 am

GetterDragun wrote:
Heckfire wrote:At least now there's a slim chance of actually getting a Thundercracker for my collection.

This does not get you a Thundercracker for your collection. It would be the equivalent of saying you had a Ferrari because you put a prancing horse on a Hyundai.

I read somewhere that china even has KO Ferrari. Look exactly the same, just maybe toyota engine :mrgreen:

So is different having a Hyundai with Ferrari logo, then a "real" KO Ferrari

by **Rated X** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:35 am

Its about time somebody put that mold to good use !!!

I admit the blue cockpit kind of sucks but if the price is right Im all in !!! Hopefully they will do Thrust and Dirge too. Whats the price ???

P.S. Think about all the girls that would jump in that fake Ferrari.... Who cares about the engine on the streets ??? Youre local strip is not a NASCAR track, LOL

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:32 pm

I have TC and SW already, but this is cool for those that want a stand in. I mean, most that buy any other KO, whether it be a G1 KO or something else, are usually buying them for that reason.

So I'm not offended in anyway, as a Botcon 2007 box set owner. I think it's just as silly to get upset over this as it would be to get upset over a KO G1 Sunstreaker. Neither KO diminishes the value of the original in either case.

With that said, I do like the idea of getting one of those KO Thundercrackers and removing the stripes on the wings to make him a Generic Seeker to accompany Acid Storm.

by **Rorschach** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:47 pm

At least someone wants my money.

I love the open market and those crazy asian bootleggers.

I can't wait to snag some of these and I pray that they'll work up some Dirge/Thrust figures as well. Hell, I'd love to see them do the rest of the Botcon stuff as well. Having some decent stand-ins is better than having nothing at all.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:43 pm

Fender Bender wrote: Neither KO diminishes the value of the original in either case.

These theoretically could. In an auction setting, if it's said to be a Botcon TC, and is set cheaper than an actual Botcon TC, then people will naturally flock to bidding on that one. If the seller has several of these then, the competitive auction market will flock to those, and the authentic is either ignored, or goes for far less because it was robbed.

Now, how many of us will be selling the Botcon sets anytime soon?

WHy is Skywarp a knock off? He was a general market release. The Botcon set was TC, Dirge, Thrust.

And I'm with the others, this is a good opportunity for Seeker bashes.

by **fowlowl2626** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:50 pm

not too bad, for a decent price and a few paint touch ups these guys could be really nice replacements, maybe the demand for the real ones will die down a little and the prices may slightly drop. B-)