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Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:58 pm
by ausbot
I wonder if they dont want to compleat with a master piece version

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:03 pm
by xRotorstormx
I was really surprised and happy when they announced he was getting reissued...But of course, RID gets the shaft again :/

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:46 pm
by hinomars19
Are we sure this was even a real thing? It seemed a bit out of left field all along to be honest.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:33 pm
by Metrosuplex
Maybe no one really cared? So due to low interest, they shelved the project?

Personally, I think the thing was grossly overpriced. I get some of these toys are vintage, but COME ON! It's getting hard to know whether or not to place the blame on rising material costs or outright exploitation.

But yeah, go MP for that kind of money. The MP line is generally fantastic, so if they put more resources there, I'm sure the majority of fans would be happy. :-?

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:25 pm
by fenrir72
First Star Saber now this.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:44 pm
by Bowspearer
Metrosuplex wrote:Personally, I think the thing was grossly overpriced. I get some of these toys are vintage, but COME ON! It's getting hard to know whether or not to place the blame on rising material costs or outright exploitation.


Your argument here is ridiculous. You're claiming it was overpriced, yet you're going by BBTS prices which tend to have at least a 50% markup on Japanese retail prices where Transformers are concerned - in many cases around a 100% markup on Japanese retail prices in fact.

If you choose to pay import prices instead of importing things from Japanese retailers (or doing the even more common sense thing and preordering) then that's your call. However stop whinging about supposedly being ripped off when you are the one choosing to get scalped here by going with a US based importer when the banner ads on the right of this thread give you plenty of options in terms of Japanese-based retailers.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:57 pm
by xyl360
That's too bad that he got cancelled. It's a great figure. I wasn't going to buy one, but only because I already have him, otherwise he would have been preordered for sure (even at $150).

I guess the orders were insufficient in number so Takara backed out. I'm fine since I have him already, but this really sucks for those looking forward to getting their hands on him.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:39 am
by Emerje
Oh well, it happens. He was never officially solicited by Takara Tomy so this is no great loss for them, retailers jumped the gun. Entirely possible it was based on bad information by someone confused about the MP poll. No complaint from me, I've got three red ones and a yellow one (plus one of each Magnus) from Hasbro so I wasn't ordering anyway.

And it's correct that ordering Transformers from a non-Japanese importer is a bad idea compared to a Japan-based exporter like HLJ, AmiAmi, or Hobby Search (the big three). Not only will you get them faster that way, you'll also get them for below Japanese MSRP and tax free. For example I pre-ordered MP Soundblaster off HLJ for 12,640JPY (about US$127), 20% off the retail price (before tax) of 15,800JPY. Shipping will probably run the price up another $25 or so, but it's still cheaper than BBTS's price of $160 plus shipping. Even better I got G2 Sideswipe for 5,200JPY (about US$52) which is much better than BBTS's US$80 price tag.

Only time I used BBTS for a brand new Japanese Transformer was Fortress Maximus because I knew the shipping on that from Japan would push the total way beyond BBTS's shipped price.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:44 am
by fenrir72
Emerje wrote:Oh well, it happens. He was never officially solicited by Takara Tomy so this is no great loss for them, retailers jumped the gun. Entirely possible it was based on bad information by someone confused about the MP poll. No complaint from me, I've got three red ones and a yellow one (plus one of each Magnus) from Hasbro so I wasn't ordering anyway.

And it's correct that ordering Transformers from a non-Japanese importer is a bad idea compared to a Japan-based exporter like HLJ, AmiAmi, or Hobby Search (the big three). Not only will you get them faster that way, you'll also get them for below Japanese MSRP and tax free. For example I pre-ordered MP Soundblaster off HLJ for 12,640JPY (about US$127), 20% off the retail price (before tax) of 15,800JPY. Shipping will probably run the price up another $25 or so, but it's still cheaper than BBTS's price of $160 plus shipping. Even better I got G2 Sideswipe for 5,200JPY (about US$52) which is much better than BBTS's US$80 price tag.

Only time I used BBTS for a brand new Japanese Transformer was Fortress Maximus because I knew the shipping on that from Japan would push the total way beyond BBTS's shipped price.


Amen to that bro' Though hlj is still a wee bit expensive than amiami or hobbysearch (no wonder they always get sold out)

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:58 am
by Deathscythetransform
Sad news for those who were looking forward to get this... :-(

Still, though its a great toy, the overpriced tag on this was... well... exagerated. #-o

Still, RID or Car Robots, call them as you want, was a great line. :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN:

Way superior to the unicron trilogy :HEADHURTS:

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:00 pm
by Mindmaster
Deathscythetransform wrote:Way superior to the unicron trilogy :HEADHURTS:


But... I liked the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, to be exact). :-(

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:21 pm
by RAcast
Mindmaster wrote:
Deathscythetransform wrote:Way superior to the unicron trilogy :HEADHURTS:


But... I liked the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, to be exact). :-(

And there's a VERY good reason Cybertron Optimus Prime has held it's value very well over the years (far better than RiD Prime).

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:02 pm
by Deathscythetransform
Mindmaster wrote:
Deathscythetransform wrote:Way superior to the unicron trilogy :HEADHURTS:


But... I liked the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, to be exact). :-(


I also enjoyed armada a lot more than energon and cybertron

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:17 pm
by Bowspearer
Emerje wrote:Oh well, it happens. He was never officially solicited by Takara Tomy so this is no great loss for them, retailers jumped the gun. Entirely possible it was based on bad information by someone confused about the MP poll. No complaint from me, I've got three red ones and a yellow one (plus one of each Magnus) from Hasbro so I wasn't ordering anyway.


Not to mention that this is BBTS we're talking about who have a bad habit of jumping the gun on product listings.

Emerje wrote:Only time I used BBTS for a brand new Japanese Transformer was Fortress Maximus because I knew the shipping on that from Japan would push the total way beyond BBTS's shipped price.


Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that was a bad call. Considering that shipping prices to the US seem to be about the same as they are to Australia based on what you've said- here's what you would have been up for with just Fort Max in a shipment. It cost me $255AUD at the time when the dollar was worth around ($1.07USD).

I wound up getting mine shipped in a bulk lot with one other Fort Max and 6 MG Gundam Kits for around the $140 mark and when I was playing around with the shipping calculator for an individual shipment (one of them wasn't mine), an individual Fort Max was going to be just under $80AUD to ship out.

The long and the short of it is that you would have been better off getting it from HLJ at the time and even better off still if you and someone else had done a bulk order.

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:19 pm
by Seibertron
Mindmaster wrote:Unfortunate news to those who were looking forward to Takara's C-001 Super Fire Convoy, a reissue of Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy. Our friends at Big Bad Toy Store informed us that, because Takara has appeared to lose interest in this project, are cancelling preorders, as they will be unable to fulfill said orders. The following message was sent to those who preordered:

Hello,

The purpose of this message is to inform you that we unfortunately will not be able to fulfill your preorder for product TAK11741 C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this cancellation has caused. We have recently been informed that Takara will not be producing this product, which is why we are unable to fulfill our preorders. Due to this matter, all remaining preorders have been cancelled accordingly.

Thank you for your understanding during this matter and have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

BBTS Customer Care


We've been asked by the powers-that-be to pull our news story about the cancellation. Not quite sure what that means for the time being but stay tuned!

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:54 pm
by Bowspearer
Interesting. I wonder if it's due to embarrassment, or because they got it wrong that they got it wrong (as in it's actually happening after all).

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:09 am
by VioMeTriX
i would be very interested if they rerelease ultra magnus to combine with him...

Re: C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:50 am
by fenrir72
Seibertron wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Unfortunate news to those who were looking forward to Takara's C-001 Super Fire Convoy, a reissue of Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy. Our friends at Big Bad Toy Store informed us that, because Takara has appeared to lose interest in this project, are cancelling preorders, as they will be unable to fulfill said orders. The following message was sent to those who preordered:

Hello,

The purpose of this message is to inform you that we unfortunately will not be able to fulfill your preorder for product TAK11741 C-001 Super Fire Convoy - 2014 Reissue - Preliminary Preorder. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this cancellation has caused. We have recently been informed that Takara will not be producing this product, which is why we are unable to fulfill our preorders. Due to this matter, all remaining preorders have been cancelled accordingly.

Thank you for your understanding during this matter and have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

BBTS Customer Care


We've been asked by the powers-that-be to pull our news story about the cancellation. Not quite sure what that means for the time being but stay tuned!


Was it the same with regards to the cancellation of Star saber too?