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News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:42 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Very very nice.

Did you find he has double jointed knees yet? He has full leg movement

Double jointed as in the bend forward? Then yes, seems painful and looks weird. If you mean backwards so he can bend his knees more than 45° then no, but I'm about to go look.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:46 pm

carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Very very nice.

Did you find he has double jointed knees yet? He has full leg movement
Double jointed as in the bend forward? Then yes, seems painful and looks weird. If you mean backwards so he can bend his knees more than 45° then no, but I'm about to go look.

Backward yes, He can mooooooooooove

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:52 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
carytheone wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Very very nice.

Did you find he has double jointed knees yet? He has full leg movement
Double jointed as in the bend forward? Then yes, seems painful and looks weird. If you mean backwards so he can bend his knees more than 45° then no, but I'm about to go look.
Backward yes, He can mooooooooooove

More like thigh joints and I'd never have thought to look there. Gives a 90° bend, but at a weird angle. The "calf" still gets in the way. Give me a sec to snap a pic of Mega Man and some real double jointed knee action.

In the meantime, here are some size comparisons of Bee for Cobotron. He asked about the size in another thread off site.

And weighs about 50g more than either MP.

Beeggoron - anyone?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:59 pm

Here is some serious double jointed knee action.

Yes that fool is able to hold that pose on it's own.

This X makes even the best TFs look bad :twisted:

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:05 pm

And one last size comp of a couple bots with some righteous kicks!

Bee is actually just a hair taller than X.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:14 pm

that is a good looking pair right there

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:28 pm

Check it out, movie accuracy!

I feel like this is an intentional option as the black square box just behind the bumper fits Bee ears perfectly. I also like how the faux chest hang down isn't as noticable from the side or front.

The coolest part is that this is possible without moving any other parts. It's easy to tuck or untuck the head while in alt mode.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:35 pm

I do love that little feature, movie accuracy is finally toy accuracy!

I really like that MPM. He's pretty great. Transformation with the panels can get tricky, but I adore the robot mode.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:45 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I do love that little feature, movie accuracy is finally toy accuracy!

I really like that MPM. He's pretty great. Transformation with the panels can get tricky, but I adore the robot mode.

It is a little tricky, but not bad on my second attempt. Knowledge is power.

I probably should have posted some before and after pics for those that don't have the figure or don't feel like fiddling with it.

You're right on the money, D! It's a really great, fun and attractive figure (both to the eyes and hands). One of the things I keep noticing is how beefy and strong it looks. Very happy with this figure. I said somewhere that I originally wish it was a bit smaller, but now I'm glad it's a big chunk of a figure. It just plain looks imposingly good posed on my desk. Highly recommend, especially at that Ross price 8-)

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:54 pm

That diecast and more rounded look really helps this guy shine! i like how solid the legs are on him and how round and bouncy the arms and lower legs feel. It's a good feel for him, makes him feel pretty friendly.

The mix in of diecast gives him some good heft too. He's not my favorite MPM, but he is definitely good.

What did you think of the boob missiles?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:12 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That diecast and more rounded look really helps this guy shine! i like how solid the legs are on him and how round and bouncy the arms and lower legs feel. It's a good feel for him, makes him feel pretty friendly.

The mix in of diecast gives him some good heft too. He's not my favorite MPM, but he is definitely good.

I agree with all of that, except the favorite part. I only have the one :lol:

Bee is a good figure period and made all the better with an excellent movie and design to support it. I don't even mind having the both the SS and MPM versions. They're each at the top of their respective class and they manage to deliver completely different yet somehow similar experiences.

What did you think of the boob missiles?

Don't care for them, but don't hate them - so meh. I wish the headlights covered them better and pegged into them so they'd stop flapping up. I'd just like to ignore them easier. Did he use them in the movie? I don't even remember :lol:

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:05 am

Thanks for the size comp, buddybro!

Speaking of bros, checkout the arm cannon brothers!

They do both have a great fashion sense for moon boots, don't they?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 am

Cobotron wrote:...moon boots...

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:39 am

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:36 pm

All this talk about Cliffjumper inspired me to faction up my uninspired CliffyJ - Ace Design Tumbler to you and me.

Transformed him and couldn't decide if I wanted an offset hood symbol or not. It didn't really look good or needed so I didn't stick it or take any pics.

For $15, this is not a "bad" MP scaled CJ. Bot mode is aight, transformation is a bit of a pain because of heavy ass diecast door panels, but alt mode looks good (if you can get the rear end to line up). Well at least I'm happy with the chest sticker, which looks surprisingly good in alt mode. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of it and I'm sure as **** not transforming it back again :-x

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:38 pm

Transformations make or break a figure for me in many cases, shame that one has a tough transformation, it doesn't look too bad

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:05 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Transformations make or break a figure for me in many cases, shame that one has a tough transformation, it doesn't look too bad

It's not "bad" and the transformation isn't tough, just unnecessarily annoying because of the two diecast door panels that are loosely hinged. They just keep falling in the way until tabbed. If they were plastic it's be a non issue and honestly with the hood being metal the panels don't need to be for bot stability.

Alt mode is attractive with rubberish tires and bot mode does every thing MP Bee does. Execution feels a little amateur but really not bad. If I had paid more than $15 I'd be disappointed for sure.

Once in either mode the figure is tight and looks pretty good on the shelf. Can't say I'd recommend it without knowing it's flaws. I'm pretty sure there are better MP scaled CJs out there.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:43 am

So I Pounced at the opportunity to finish the TR Clones when Ali had the last one in stock. I've forgotten how weak these figures are, but at least the gimmick is cool and well executed.

They make sweet mounts for the TMs/PMs.

I'm still glad I finished the set.

I basically got Fastlane for free, Cloudraker/Wingspan were discounted at Walgreens and Pounce was shipped around $12. Ultimately I'm meh across the board, but happy to have slots filled (but who wouldn't be). :twisted:

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:21 pm

Neat find!

I got the clones too, they aren't that outstanding or inventive but they are kinda cool little bots to have

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:42 pm

So how about that Apeface? I like it and I feel the complaints are people have are unfounded and sound like mob mentality. I did have to mod it though. I already said stuff in the Siege thread, so just pics yo!

First off, face off!

*insert cliche*

I like the stock Spasma better, but I hear options are a good thing.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:04 pm

Spinister and stuff. Also had words about this bot on the Siege thread (see link above). I like it a lot. Not sure why but I get a Sam Elliot vibe from the figure. Might be my favorite helicopter bot and I dug the IDW version. This figure might be the perfect mashup of IDW and G1 - perfect new G1 stuff here.

A tall and sleek bot.

Has pew pews that can do things and such. I like them pegged onto the forearms.

Helicopter mode is cool and there are some interesting steps to get there. I read about different hip rotations on the Siege thread and while mine pegs fine either way, spinning the hip 180° does work better.

Either way you end up with this.

Nice little duo of 'Cons.

Hands down best feature of Spinister is the dance moves.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:35 am

Mrstheone got me a cool wooden mechanical puzzle treasure box for the mas of x. The build was really cool and involved with lots of moving parts. Easily took between 3-4 hours to build (my fingertips are raw feeling and sensitive today :lol:

). I highly recommend checking out their other products. If you're wondering what some of the white gunk is, that's wax used to lube the moving parts and gears (which I need to clean off).

Here's the finished product.

Three digit (user selectable) combination lock

Top storage, opens with a twist of the gear

Opens very much like a camera lens, or Unicron's maw

Removable keys to open the inner box

What treasures are hidden inside?

The internal box rises up as the doors open

Now I just need something to put inside, like a Zelda Boss key ;)^

off to Etsy I go 8-)

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:31 pm

Very nice Cons! Apeface is wonderful.

nice Puzzlebox too, I got something kinda like it for Christmas too

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:53 pm

I'm really digging this guy. He has an absolutely gorgeous paint job. Transormation is intuitively simple in a clever way. There are a couple neat tricks, but the clearance issues are holding it back. Articulation gets the job done and it's nice to finally have a movie Laserbeak. Mounting on the arm is cool and all, but for my money it's all about perching like a pirate's parrot. Fortunately, Laserbird pegs into the shoulder tires as if it was a design feature.

He's a little guy, but I dig that about him. I have a mega sized movie Soundwave, so it's fun to have a pocket sized ball of silver evil. He's just barely taller than SS Bee movie Bee.

You can see his silver tongued predecessor just towering over them all. He's a big boy and just dwarfs this newcomer.

Even though SS-51 pulls off the transformation tricks better leading to a superior proportioned bot, I still prefer the MtB figure. It just has an incredible amount of presence. Luckily for me, I'll always have room for more Soundwaves. ;)^

SS-51 Soundwave is a good figure and a worthy addition to the Studio Series line. There is an elegant simplicity to the transformation that is being held back by some clearance issues. The deco is absolutely beautiful even though is sparse on color. I think it's a great movie Soundwave, but the size is going to turn some people off.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:18 pm

So I recently got me a heavy for my sharkticon team in the form of Cyberverse Gnaw and you know what? I'm impressed. There are a few shortcomings; feels very light, limited articulation. Overall this is a better toy than the TR Gnaw. Yeah I said it

So lets get on with it. Size comparisons.

Note the lack of hollowness in the Cyberverse figure, along with the hazardous to your hair tats.

I also thinks he pulls the sharktifrog mode off better.

The shark arms do not move and that's a bummer and some will be turned off by his mouth full of robot head, but all I see is spiky death tongue. The correct way is to leave the head as is, but it sits lower if rotated around, but leaves the mouth a little open. Both work though.

Correct

Incorrect

Either way it reminds me of this nightmare.

Enjoy your nightmares

Pick your poison and have a few other angles for your dangle.

Let's talk about that gimmick yo! You know the spinny rotaty torso thing! First off the robot legs peg into the body. I was confused at first but then realized they are for stability of the gimmick. Those may get nipped off.

The torso spins pretty freely, but if you pump his fin there is a geared mechanic. I also think you can lock his torso and wind a spring. It clicks something awful and I've only done it once.

Still pics aren't doing this justice.

Overall, cool figure.