CrankyOldTruck wrote:How can any of you actually get excited over this? Does it take so little for Hasbro to mollify you people that you actually consider these paltry options in what is basically a pre-determined, re-hashed, overly-recycled-4-times-over figure to be acceptable to you? There is absolutely nothing new or even remotely inspired about this stuff at all!!
The stupid part is that every last one of you is going to run out and buy this Frankenstein POS after having already spent obscene amounts of money on the first 3 iterations of each and every figure that's going into this thing when, if fact, you will already have the damn thing thrice over (at least) if you just mix and match all your sets.
What is really going to chap all your asses is when Hasbro only releases the whole thing in one box set, makes it a Toys-R-Us exclusive and you have to pay TRU's god-awful prices to get the toy you all are so excited to have taken part in if you can even find a TRU that has it in stock.
Suckers and fools, each and every last one of you.
we get it. you hate everything, including the fandom (nice one btw). so i wonder why youre even trying to be a part of it? cause ya aint makin any friends around here with that attitude.CrankyOldTruck wrote:Suckers and fools, each and every last one of you.
Rated X wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:
I remember the days when you'd walk into Toys R Us during Beast Wars and only see two pegs of Transformers toys. That's it! I remember the days in the mid 90s when sometimes you wouldn't find any Transformers toys at all and you'd wonder if they toyline was canceled.
I look at all of the amazing Masterpiece figures that we've received. I look at my Combiner Wars Superion and think about how amazing it is to finally have this toy in my collection. I look at Generations Metroplex and continue to be amazed that we got him. I think what a lot of fans fail to realize is that profits generated by Transformers toys you don't like (such as Hero Mashers, Construct-Bots, and "marketing-gone-wild" Fan-Built Combiners) all go back into the larger pool for the Transformers brand which means more research and development, more products (for the fans and for the kids), more shelf space, etc. The profits get larger and more specialty items that are geared toward us are green lighted.
We're not going to like everything that comes out. I have a lot of Transformers in my collection that I'm not particularly fond of. But then I look at all of the really awesome stuff that we have gotten thanks to the success of the Transformers brand over the past 15 years and understand the bigger picture.
If Hasbro has to knock out some quick/easy products so that we can get Metroplex, Masterpiece Soundwave (who is still a cassette player), Combiner Wars, etc, then let them do what they have to do so that they can stay successful.
It could always be worse. It could be the late 90s all over again with only about 25 figures being released per year. I'll take things the way they are now!
gothsaurus wrote:Also... some really great points by Seibertron above. Repaints are what fund this whole franchise... and pay for all the safety testing, research and development, expensive molds for the toys, copyright and trademark purchases...
This is at least a fresh way to throw us the ball regarding repaints. It's a fun notion.
Hasbro/Takara have also done a great job working in some heavy retools to make the "repaints" that show up something more exciting. Sandstorm/Springer are some of the best examples. Huge props for the design team for planning that so well. Hoping they keep some of that coming for these combiners. (And seeing a comparison between Motormaster and Prime, I have full faith that they will.)
Rated X wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Also... some really great points by Seibertron above. Repaints are what fund this whole franchise... and pay for all the safety testing, research and development, expensive molds for the toys, copyright and trademark purchases...
This is at least a fresh way to throw us the ball regarding repaints. It's a fun notion.
Hasbro/Takara have also done a great job working in some heavy retools to make the "repaints" that show up something more exciting. Sandstorm/Springer are some of the best examples. Huge props for the design team for planning that so well. Hoping they keep some of that coming for these combiners. (And seeing a comparison between Motormaster and Prime, I have full faith that they will.)
While I can understand some of the repaints are done for so called "funding" people forget hasbro is a lot bigger thab transformers. If im correct, isnt TMNT owned by hasbro too? Over the years how many TMNT figures have been straight repaints? (maybe a few retools here and there but definitely not the abuse the TF brand has endured) You dont see a TMNT fan poll to create a fan made fifth turtle ? Choose the color of his headband, weapon, personality, etc. You dont see it because it would be really stupid and the fans would blast it to hell. So why is the same concept so embraced by TF fans ?
Noideaforaname wrote:I get why repaints exist, but making a whole event out of one when last time we got a brand new mold just seems cheap, especially when in all likelihood every one of these molds will have already gotten a few uses before this new one ever lands in store shelves. You'd think at the very least the torso bot would be a new mold, maybe the 'weapon' guy, too.
Not to mention we get too many cars, trucks, and jets as it is. It wouldn't be *quite* as disappointing if we were picking between lion and flying cannon.
Shockwave7 wrote:I was excited about this initially. But not so much anymore. Unlike Windblade, this 'fan built' combiner will not be new figures, or characters, from the ground up. It's just going to be another slew of repaints. They're kind of already doing that with the Optimus Prime figure (which is just a Motormaster repaint that was (for some bizarre reason) released BEFORE the actual Motormaster figure.
So the only part we fans can participate in this 'fan built' combiners is choosing which CW figures get repainted, pick a very limited selection of colors in which these figures will be repainted, and if we're lucky, maybe pick their names. Oh, and the faction too, we at least got to pick THAT.
I'm getting less and less enthused over this as time goes by. I'd rather just get the G1 inspired combiners.
Hope they do Abominus and Predaking...
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
leokearon wrote:Rated X wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Also... some really great points by Seibertron above. Repaints are what fund this whole franchise... and pay for all the safety testing, research and development, expensive molds for the toys, copyright and trademark purchases...
This is at least a fresh way to throw us the ball regarding repaints. It's a fun notion.
Hasbro/Takara have also done a great job working in some heavy retools to make the "repaints" that show up something more exciting. Sandstorm/Springer are some of the best examples. Huge props for the design team for planning that so well. Hoping they keep some of that coming for these combiners. (And seeing a comparison between Motormaster and Prime, I have full faith that they will.)
While I can understand some of the repaints are done for so called "funding" people forget hasbro is a lot bigger thab transformers. If im correct, isnt TMNT owned by hasbro too? Over the years how many TMNT figures have been straight repaints? (maybe a few retools here and there but definitely not the abuse the TF brand has endured) You dont see a TMNT fan poll to create a fan made fifth turtle ? Choose the color of his headband, weapon, personality, etc. You dont see it because it would be really stupid and the fans would blast it to hell. So why is the same concept so embraced by TF fans ?
TMNT is owned by Playmates
Seibertron wrote:Rated X wrote:
I remember the days when you'd walk into Toys R Us during Beast Wars and only see two pegs of Transformers toys. That's it! I remember the days in the mid 90s when sometimes you wouldn't find any Transformers toys at all and you'd wonder if they toyline was canceled.
I look at all of the amazing Masterpiece figures that we've received. I look at my Combiner Wars Superion and think about how amazing it is to finally have this toy in my collection. I look at Generations Metroplex and continue to be amazed that we got him. I think what a lot of fans fail to realize is that profits generated by Transformers toys you don't like (such as Hero Mashers, Construct-Bots, and "marketing-gone-wild" Fan-Built Combiners) all go back into the larger pool for the Transformers brand which means more research and development, more products (for the fans and for the kids), more shelf space, etc. The profits get larger and more specialty items that are geared toward us are green lighted.
We're not going to like everything that comes out. I have a lot of Transformers in my collection that I'm not particularly fond of. But then I look at all of the really awesome stuff that we have gotten thanks to the success of the Transformers brand over the past 15 years and understand the bigger picture.
If Hasbro has to knock out some quick/easy products so that we can get Metroplex, Masterpiece Soundwave (who is still a cassette player), Combiner Wars, etc, then let them do what they have to do so that they can stay successful.
It could always be worse. It could be the late 90s all over again with only about 25 figures being released per year. I'll take things the way they are now!
Rated X wrote:leokearon wrote:Rated X wrote:gothsaurus wrote:Also... some really great points by Seibertron above. Repaints are what fund this whole franchise... and pay for all the safety testing, research and development, expensive molds for the toys, copyright and trademark purchases...
This is at least a fresh way to throw us the ball regarding repaints. It's a fun notion.
Hasbro/Takara have also done a great job working in some heavy retools to make the "repaints" that show up something more exciting. Sandstorm/Springer are some of the best examples. Huge props for the design team for planning that so well. Hoping they keep some of that coming for these combiners. (And seeing a comparison between Motormaster and Prime, I have full faith that they will.)
While I can understand some of the repaints are done for so called "funding" people forget hasbro is a lot bigger thab transformers. If im correct, isnt TMNT owned by hasbro too? Over the years how many TMNT figures have been straight repaints? (maybe a few retools here and there but definitely not the abuse the TF brand has endured) You dont see a TMNT fan poll to create a fan made fifth turtle ? Choose the color of his headband, weapon, personality, etc. You dont see it because it would be really stupid and the fans would blast it to hell. So why is the same concept so embraced by TF fans ?
TMNT is owned by Playmates
I dindnt know that. But you still sidestepped my question. Why is it that transformers the only brand of action figures that abuses the repaint ?
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