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Postby Sabrblade » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:33 pm

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^ I notice a lack of comparison of MLPFIM to Rescue Bots in that post, which I only bring up since Rescue Bots is like the closest thing to a MPFIM-type TF cartoon (having similar tones, writing styles, and targeted age ranges for their toylines), and has tackled several unorthodox and even mature ideas that most TF cartoons have not, or even tackled topics found in other TF shows in revolutionary ways.
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby ctrlFrequency » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:46 am

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I have to agree with Sabreblade. Rescue Bots is probably the best show to compare with MLP (almost the same target ages).

Rescue Bots has a lot if depth to it. A lot. It seems like people dismiss it because of it's target and style. Clearly it's aimed for young kids, but kids shows have become very complicated since the 80's. It's not mindless entertainment anymore, they deal with life and emotional situations as well as include an deep plot that actually is a story arch, building on previous episodes. Characters are growing and changing just like real people do.

I really didn't care for it at first, then my 5 year old got interested and I really started paying attention, changed my mind very quickly.
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:48 am

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I wanted to mention Rescue Bots, but couldn't make a valid argument for it myself because I've only watched three-quarters of the first season and every season premiere thereafter. I didn't want to make a full assessment of the whole series based on the 18 or so episodes that I entertained from the first season, which started to really bore me after a while. I can agree that Rescue Bots is the closest to a Friendship is Magic we've gotten from Transformers, but MLP even manages to beat that show by keeping my interest in it for this long in comparison to RB.
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:52 am

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The Blurr (& Salvage) Trilogy is arguably one of the most mature stories of any TF cartoon ever made, and deals with the age old concept of "the rambunctious youngster needs to learn how to follow the rules while the leader tries to mentor him" that we've seen before with Cheetor in Beast Wars, Side Burn and Wedge in RiD 2001, Hot Shot in Armada, Ironhide in Energon, Hot Shot again in Cybertron, Bumblebee in Animated, Smokescreen in Prime, and Sideswipe in RID 2015.

The big difference with how it was handled with Blurr in Rescue Bots compared to all those other examples is that, while all of those other youngsters would get into trouble, get bailed out by their leaders, learn their lesson by the episode's end, and then repeat the cycle in other episodes, the situation with Blurr spanned three whole episodes instead of being done all in one, meaning that Blurr did not learn a thing by the end of the first episode, which actually ended on a solemn conclusion with almost no one willing to ever trust Blurr ever again. After all, what Blurr had done to put himself on everyone's bad side was the following.

Back when he and Salvage first came Earth way back in the past, their ship had crashed on what would in the present be known as Wayward Island. At the time they arrived on Earth, cave people were still around, so this was way back in prehistoric times. A meteor storm was going on at the time and Salvage tried to save the humans. However, one of the cavemen was missing from the rest and Blurr took off, promising to locate and bring back the missing caveman. When Blurr didn't come back, Salvage had to get the other humans to safety without the missing one, and then went to look for both the missing one and Blurr. Salvage found the missing caveman all alone, with Blurr nowhere in sight. Salvage took the caveman back to the cave where his ship was located, and that's where he found Blurr, who was then trying to get the ship working so he could get off the planet and leave Salvage behind. Enraged that Blurr had both deceived him and attempted to leave abandon him, Salvage went at Blurr and two fought, eventually being forced into the ship's stasis pods when the meteors started hitting the cave. The remained in their pods for some ten thousand years before being discovered by the Rescue Team in the present.

Thus, when the history of Blurr and Salvage was later made known by the episode's conclusion, virtually no one on the team was willing to forgive Blurr after learning that he tried to leave Salvage for dead.

And by the second episode, they still don't trust him, only working with him out of obligation, meaning that Heatwave, unlike every Optimus that ever mentored a troublemaking youngster, did not want to have anything to do with Blurr nor even believed that Blurr had the potential to get better at cooperating.

Not helping matters was that Blurr himself simply did not care about saving lives or working with a team. He was not a Rescue Bot and never wanted to be. He was just a regular Autobot who felt like he was being forced into a profession he never wanted any part of, only going along with it in the first place because Optimus Prime himself assigned him to it. But even though he did try to get used to his new life for Optimus's sake, he was still more prone to ignoring orders and endangering lives more than otherwise. He just really did not care at all about doing what he was told, and after overhearing Heatwave talking to Chief about wanting Optimus to reassign Blurr to a different team, Blurr took the opportunity to do everyone a favor and just leave on his own... by stealing the Sigma (the ship owned by Heatwave's team) to leave Earth altogether.

In many regards, this is the most realistic portrayal of the youngster/leader relationship ever seen in a TF cartoon, as real teenagers do not always learn their lessons so easily and those who don't respect authority tend to regularly make life hard for the authority figures who are trying to guide and mentor them. Compared to Cheetor and his ilk, Blurr was much more difficult and defiant than all of those others of his kind, causing way more grief and frustration for the team and never learning anything or even wanting to make amends for anything after two whole episodes. And even stole the Sigma, leaving the team defenseless from what was to come next.

The third episode showed that Blurr's committing "grand theft spaceship" had even greater consequences than expected. Of all the times that the traitor could have stolen the ship, he just had to do it right as solar flare activity was getting underway, which included a Coronal Mass Ejection that both knocked out all power on Griffin Rock but also took out a space satellite that was headed for Earth. For Griffin Rock. Without the Sigma, the team had no way of stopping the satellite, meaning that the renegade Blurr (whom they knew wouldn't care to come back and save them) was their only hope for survival.

It took Blurr's own conscience to convince him to go back and save everyone. Recall that I said "almost" and "virtually" no one on the team wanted to trust him, meaning that there were still one or two who did. Specifically, Cody, Boulder, and Salvage still believed in him. Remembering how, despite his not getting along at all with most of the team at, Cody still wanted to believe in Blurr, Blurr felt that even though he didn't like those guys that didn't mean he wanted them all killed. So he turned the ship around to go after the satellite and be the hero they needed him to be. And it sure wasn't easy since the ship had to both catch up to the fast-falling satellite and blast it at a dangerously close distance (since the ship's laser hadn't been properly installed before Blurr stole the ship) that could have taken out the Sigma as well, and all before impacting the ground. So it was a near suicidal rescue.

After blowing up the satellite, Blurr brought the ship back down and owned up for his misdeeds. So it took a really critical situation that would have killed many (which he'd have been partly responsible for) to open his eyes and show him just how important both being a Rescue Bot and selflessly saving lives really are, as well as how much he really is needed and can make a difference as a Rescue Bot.
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby LegendaryAntiHero » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:24 pm

I don't see why we couldn't get pony colored Transformers instead
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:02 pm

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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:I don't see why we couldn't get pony colored Transformers instead
There was one as an unused concept for a BotCon/TCC figure.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby ctrlFrequency » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:19 pm

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A pony colored Transformer... transforms from robot to MLP....

In 1984, I would have been throwing my allowance at that screaming "YES!!!!!" (I was a weird girl, only one of my friends who loved robots, horses, and frilly dresses... and blowing stuff up! I really haven't changed much except for my color palette)
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby Burn » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:21 pm

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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby ctrlFrequency » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:44 pm

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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:46 am

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So, these aren't mass-market retail? Bummer. I'd pick them up.

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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby LegendaryAntiHero » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:00 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
LegendaryAntiHero wrote:I don't see why we couldn't get pony colored Transformers instead
There was one as an unused concept for a BotCon/TCC figure.

Since when did FP had the MLP license?
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Re: Custom My Little Pony Transformers for International Day of Friendship - Press Release

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:01 pm

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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:
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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:I don't see why we couldn't get pony colored Transformers instead
There was one as an unused concept for a BotCon/TCC figure.

Since when did FP had the MLP license?
The point is, "Twilight Sparkle Prime" (TS-based redeco of Mach Kick) never made it past conception.
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