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Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:00 pm

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Cybertron and its robot mode. Original development designs I did for the Transformers series. Signed prints are available in my daughter's Etsy store, http://www.etsy.com/shop/FDartstudio
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby RhA » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:12 pm

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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Dead Metal » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:08 pm

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Wow, that is cool.

I love the detail and all, it's a little OTT in the details, but damn it's awesome.

I wish Floro Dery's website was still on-line, I love his art.
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Postby TurboMMaster » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:59 pm

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This is amazing!!! Sadly, in G1 Cartoon there was no way to portraied Cybertron Robot Mode properly, due to lack of all technical stuff we have today.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:19 pm

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You guys have no idea how much more awesome stuff there is that Floro Dery has posted both before and after he posted this. ;) ;)
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:51 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:You guys have no idea how much more awesome stuff there is that Floro Dery has posted both before and after he posted this. ;) ;)

Oh I do, but sadly AOL killed his website.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:54 pm

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Be prepared. A whole wave of Dery goodness is coming later this evening. ;)
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:04 pm

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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:32 pm

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Here it is. A truck-load of Floro Dery artwork from his blog and his Etsy "FDartstudio" account (many of these are no longer available from there but were mirrored prior to their being sold). All of this is mostly from season 2 and season 3 of the G1 cartoon, the G1 movie, and some early/unused concepts from either:


Decepticon Hall of Heroes, shown in BG are the Earth's moon and the severed head of Unicron.
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First version of Junkion spaceship, in BG is Cybertron.
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Temporary Decepticon base, in BG is Cybertron and two of its five moons.
From the episode "Enter the Nightbird"
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Shown on the left side is the Decepticon Forest Base; on the right side is the Decepticon tower on Cybertron, in BG are three of the five moons of Cybertron.
First is from "Make Tracks", and I'm not sure which episode the tower is from.
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Decepticon lunar dome base.
From "Blaster Blues"
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On the left side is Cybertron and its robot mode.The city of Lithone, in BG is Unicron, is on the right side.
First is from the discarded early draft of the G1 movie called "The Secret of Cybertron"; the second is from the final version of said movie.
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Early version of Autobot City, from when the name "Fortress Maximus" was originally going to refer to said city instead of being the name of the big Headmaster Citybot.
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The first version of Fortress Maximus, shown above, transforms to Autobot City, shown below.
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Early concept for Scourge
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Iron Mountain from "The Insecticon Syndrome"
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Unicron concept art
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Early concept for Galvatron
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Junkion ship and Quintesson ship from the G1 movie
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Nightbird concept art
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Surface of one of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
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Decepticon ship concept art, from the G1 movie
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Early concept for Hot Rod
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The Kronosphere from "War Dawn"
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Cybertron
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Sharkticon concept
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Unicron's brain, from the G1 movie
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TORQ III from "Dary of the Machines"
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Space carrier and an early version of Chaar
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Matrix of Leadership
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One of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
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Autobot City (third version)
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Early concept for Cyclonus
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Aujtobot shuttle from the G1 movie
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Autobot City transformed (third version)
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War screen room, from the G1 movie
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Sub-Atlantica, from "Atlantis, Arise!"
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Concept of Wreck-Gar
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Seibertron » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:40 pm

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I'm speechless.

Just. Wow. Amazing stuff. Someone needs to make a book with this stuff.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Cyberpath » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:23 am

Seibertron wrote:I'm speechless.

Just. Wow. Amazing stuff. Someone needs to make a book with this stuff.
Dery said that his nephew is currently working on putting together a book with all the artwork.

Sabrblade wrote:First is from "Make Tracks", and I'm not sure which episode the tower is from.

The second design is the Decepticon base from the beginning of the movie. (Shockwave: "Laserbeak returns, Megatron.")

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G1 Concept Art by Floro Dery (Image Heavy)

Postby Va'al » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:44 am

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Earlier this week, Seibertron.com user Cyberpath posted a piece of unused concept art by Floro Dey in the Energon Pub forums. It got some attention and good comments, and inspired others to track down more of Dey's art for his vision of the G1 universe. Now, Seibertron user sabrblade has gone and compiled an almost comprehensive list of all the available artwork out there, from his blog and his Etsy "FDartstudio" account. The concepts span across seasons 2 and 3 and the 1986 movie of the G1 cartoon, and some that never made it into the series at all. Take a look below at an image heavy post, and feast your eyes on some early G1 goodness.

sabrblade wrote:
Decepticon Hall of Heroes, shown in BG are the Earth's moon and the severed head of Unicron.
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First version of Junkion spaceship, in BG is Cybertron.
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Temporary Decepticon base, in BG is Cybertron and two of its five moons.
From the episode "Enter the Nightbird"
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Shown on the left side is the Decepticon Forest Base; on the right side is the Decepticon tower on Cybertron, in BG are three of the five moons of Cybertron.
First is from "Make Tracks", and I'm not sure which episode the tower is from.
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Decepticon lunar dome base.
From "Blaster Blues"
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On the left side is Cybertron and its robot mode.The city of Lithone, in BG is Unicron, is on the right side.
First is from the discarded early draft of the G1 movie called "The Secret of Cybertron"; the second is from the final version of said movie.
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Early version of Autobot City, from when the name "Fortress Maximus" was originally going to refer to said city instead of being the name of the big Headmaster Citybot.
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The first version of Fortress Maximus, shown above, transforms to Autobot City, shown below.
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Early concept for Scourge
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Iron Mountain from "The Insecticon Syndrome"
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Unicron concept art
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Early concept for Galvatron
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Junkion ship and Quintesson ship from the G1 movie
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Nightbird concept art
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Surface of one of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
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Decepticon ship concept art, from the G1 movie
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Early concept for Hot Rod
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The Kronosphere from "War Dawn"
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Cybertron
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Sharkticon concept
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Unicron's brain, from the G1 movie
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TORQ III from "Day of the Machines"
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Space carrier and an early version of Chaar
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Matrix of Leadership
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One of Cybertron's moons, from the G1 movie
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Autobot City (third version)
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Early concept for Cyclonus
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Aujtobot shuttle from the G1 movie
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Autobot City transformed (third version)
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War screen room, from the G1 movie
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Sub-Atlantica, from "Atlantis, Arise!"
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Concept of Wreck-Gar
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby griftimus prime » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 am

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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 am

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The ideas running in Mr. Dery's head.Amazing, breath taking! I read somewhere that he used to be a Physics professor...........so math indeed is the language of the universe. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby xyl360 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:43 am

Do those concept drawings of the movie Decepticons remind anyone else of Bayverse bots :P?

Seriously, it's kinda eerie. I wonder if Bay's design team saw these and drew inspiration from them for his insecoidbots.

Also, what the heck's up with the whole Cybertron having a robot mode thing? Was that seriously a concept tossed around for the movie as in Primus and all that? I thought all that stuff was just junk cooked up for the comics.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:23 am

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xyl360 wrote:Also, what the heck's up with the whole Cybertron having a robot mode thing? Was that seriously a concept tossed around for the movie as in Primus and all that? I thought all that stuff was just junk cooked up for the comics.
Simon Furman created the character of Primus in 1988. This idea of Cybertron being a giant robot came about two whole years before Furman would create Primus. So, no, it's not meant to be Primus. It was from the discarded early draft for the 1986 movie called "The Secret of Cybertron":
TFWiki.net wrote:"The Secret of Cybertron" was a proposed script by writer Flint Dille and creative director Jay Bacal, hastily produced in a week after they read Ron Friedman's original draft for The Transformers: The Movie and deemed it "incoherent." Although hugely proud and excited about the script they had created, Dille and Bacal were disappointed to discover that executive producers Joe Bacal and Tom Griffin did not share their enthusiasm, and "The Secret of Cybertron" was promptly "filed away."

Details on the story of "The Secret of Cybertron" remain minimal, as the script is lost to the mists of time - Dille believes he may own a copy, but has yet to uncover it. It is believed that at least some aspects of the story made it into the completed movie, although Dille describes the finished feature as "such a Frankenstein of different drafts and ideas and people" that he cannot remember which elements, if any, originated in his and Bacal's script. What is known, though, is that "The Secret of Cybertron" originated the idea of the Quintessons as the creators of the Transformers, which Dille later revived for "Five Faces of Darkness".

As pieced together from different interviews with Dille, the story would have allegedly involved Optimus Prime embarking on a quest to discover the origin of the Transformer race. The titular "secret" would have been that Cybertron itself was a giant robot, and the planet would have been transformed by the Matrix of Leadership to fight Unicron, who was in this draft a weapon apparently created by the Quintessons, intentionally setting up a "brotherly" dynamic between the two planets years before Simon Furman got the idea into his noggin.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Wasp-shot23 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:05 am

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Looking at those Galvatron, Scourge and Cyclonus concepts, they look a hell of a lot like Ulises Farinas' weird take on the trio... Maybe he was privy to this art and was acting to homage it, actually being very clever and not making Heart of Darkness look rubbish?
...Yeah, I don't think so somehow.

And that Proto-Primus looks awesome. I love the multi-layered complicated look... Cos lets face it, even in the 80's before Mr Bay, it couldn't have been hard to imagine that a robot that size would be almost infinitely complex.
I think I'd like that in plastic.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Cyberpath » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:49 am

Hey, where's my news credit point? I posted some of these months ago and no one seemed to care. :lol:

I wonder if the sketch work with the exposed inner mechanics of Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge and Nightbird was a type of robotic écorché, or an actual proposed look. Probably the former.

I think The Transformers could have pulled off a robot Cybertron, but I never liked the idea, so I'm glad the concept never made it to the series. Though the illustration is great!
Without the creativity and skill of Dery I think the show might not have been as successful and timeless.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby gothsaurus » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:25 am

I'd buy this in a book... in a heartbeat.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby spiderbob007 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:59 am

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The lush nuances of Dery's watercolors were apparently lost in translation once animated for the cartoon episodes and movie. The sci-fi quality of the images reminds me of Ralph McQuarrie's Star Wars concept art, or to a lesser degree the Ralph Bakshi era Spider-Man cartoon backgrounds. Although probably budgetary prohibitive, it would be cool to see future animated projects integrate what for me is an epically grandiose visual energy that would become legendary among Transformers fans.
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Re: Cybertron's robot mode (unused concept art by Floro Dery)

Postby Trikeboy » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:27 am

Well, the concepts for Galvatron, Scourge and Cyclonus explain why the toys look the way they do. The designs got changed after the toy designers started work and couldn't change it.
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Postby triKlops » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:33 am

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Postby ScottyP » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:02 am

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Postby Va'al » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:50 am

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Cyberpath wrote:Hey, where's my news credit point? I posted some of these months ago and no one seemed to care. :lol:


I did credit you in the news post, but we can only assign the numeric credit count to one user at a time. :(
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Postby kirbenvost » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:37 pm

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Oh man, these look amazing. Some of those landscapes would make great framed artwork for my wall. I love the grandiose sci-fi designs. And hey look, G1 Proto-Primus! So awesome. :D
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