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Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:22 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?
Given the human-led focus of these films, most likely the human lead.



I see. I was curious. From what has been said of his theatre background, it might lend itself more to voice work than onscreen acting. Like a Jazz, Blurr, Wheelie or Wreck-Gar.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:42 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?
Given the human-led focus of these films, most likely the human lead.



I see. I was curious. From what has been said of his theatre background, it might lend itself more to voice work than onscreen acting. Like a Jazz, Blurr, Wheelie or Wreck-Gar.

Nah, definitely human lead from whats been said elsewhere as supposedly, Optimus Prime helps him find the right path. I'm thinking he'll be a bit like Ant Man from the MCU, just instead of Michael Sheen, you have a giant robot that turns into a truck.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:47 am

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Just when you thought they were learning a lesson from the human interactions in the Bumblebee movie. That sounds like a massive step backwards.

Plus there was a reason Douglas as Pym was given a supporting role. Because of what the character is forever known for..

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby rslatt74 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:12 pm

Really hope he plays Raul and we get two hours of Blaster and Tracks hijinks!
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Angel Manuel Soto Drops Info About His Transformers Movie

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:05 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Following on from the announcement that Angel Manuel Soto was helming a brand new Transformers movie, unconnected to any of the other movies currently being worked on, he dropped in on the Molusco TV Podcast and while there, dropped some information about his upcoming project.

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Thanks to the fine folk over at TFW2005, and in particular, the user Black Convoy, we have what he said translated, and he made some interesting comments about his movie:

Mr. Soto stated that the premises of his new Transformers movie will take place outside of United States. The story does not involve the military.

The plot is stated to be completely outside of the Bayverse.

Additionally, the director described the inception of the movie in question. He got the call from Paramount after the 2020 Sundance Film Festival where he showcased Charm City Kings. The Los Angeles production company expressed their interest to make a new and different Transformers project with him. Angel Manuel Soto personally pitched the idea to Paramount & Hasbro. The two companies liked the idea and gave a greenlight.


The Soto Transformers Project is still in an earlier stage than the upcoming DC Blue Beetle movie (also directed by Angel Manuel Soto).

The director is planning to humanize the Transformers characters on his movie (personality-wise and not design-wise). He want the robots to speak like us, in a natural way. That’s the way he remembers Transformers and the reason we felt identified with the original Transformers. He believes that when you humanize the characters, you get closer to them, love them. When there’s a human approach, you create a connection with them. If not, they are just lifeless robots.

Angel Manuel Soto is surprised to see all the reaction of fans about him directing this movie. He doesn’t want to let anybody down. While he can’t speak much details, he says that the budget is over 50 milliion dollars and it’s a challenge to manage it. He really wants to bring as much of the movie as he can to Puerto Rico.

Elsewhere, Mr. Soto stated that he always wanted to make a movie on Transformers; which he enjoyed during his childhood. Growing up, his father struggled to provide for his family but bought him Transformers toys which he loved and cherished.


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Re: Angel Manuel Soto Drops Info About His Transformers Movie

Postby TulioDude » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:24 pm

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The director is planning to humanize the Transformers characters on his movie (personality-wise and not design-wise). He want the robots to speak like us, in a natural way. That’s the way he remembers Transformers and the reason we felt identified with the original Transformers. He believes that when you humanize the characters, you get closer to them, love them. When there’s a human approach, you create a connection with them. If not, they are just lifeless robots.

Angel Manuel Soto is surprised to see all the reaction of fans about him directing this movie. He doesn’t want to let anybody down. While he can’t speak much details, he says that the budget is over 50 milliion dollars and it’s a challenge to manage it. He really wants to bring as much of the movie as he can to Puerto Rico.



This sounds way too vague,you could describe any of the new Transformers projects like that.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:13 pm

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No I'm not at all intrigued. This is laughable. The new movies will be garbage. And the sad thing is the bar they need to clear isn't even high.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:08 am

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-- Not related to the Bayverse. Design-wise, it's irrelevant, but story-wise, it means a lot.

-- No USA, no military. AT LAST!

-- The Transformers will have more personality and feel more "human". Don't tell me they will be the MAIN CHARACTERS?

Well, my hopes are certainly up. :BOWDOWN:
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:13 am

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The no military thing is 100% a step forward.

. He believes that when you humanize the characters, you get closer to them, love them. When there’s a human approach, you create a connection with them. If not, they are just lifeless robots.


That however, doesn't say "fan of Transformers" to me.
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Re: Angel Manuel Soto Drops Info About His Transformers Movie

Postby Brokebot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:30 am

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The director is planning to humanize the Transformers characters on his movie (personality-wise and not design-wise). He want the robots to speak like us, in a natural way.


You mean like Skids and Mudflap from Revenge of the Retcon? Yeah, that's just what was missing. "Humanized" alien robots. Screw all that plot and good writing nonsense, what this movie needs is Optimus Prime cussing and using street slang. :roll:

I can't wait to not watch this.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:39 am

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They seem to have this habit with the Live Action films of garnering good will. Then wiping it away with marketing...
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Brokebot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:40 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:No I'm not at all intrigued. This is laughable. The new movies will be garbage. And the sad thing is the bar they need to clear isn't even high.


Yeah, but the diehards will continue to throw their money at it, ensuring nothing but similar garbage in the future.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

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Sounds like he's not screwing with beast wars so it may be the better of the two planned films.
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Re: Angel Manuel Soto Drops Info About His Transformers Movie

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Brokebot wrote:
The director is planning to humanize the Transformers characters on his movie (personality-wise and not design-wise). He want the robots to speak like us, in a natural way.


You mean like Skids and Mudflap from Revenge of the Retcon? Yeah, that's just what was missing. "Humanized" alien robots. Screw all that plot and good writing nonsense, what this movie needs is Optimus Prime cussing and using street slang. :roll:

I can't wait to not watch this.


Don't automatically assume "humanizing robots" automatically mean bad writing. The article clearly stated this:
He want the robots to speak like us, in a natural way. That’s the way he remembers Transformers and the reason we felt identified with the original Transformers.

Assuming the director is not a 15 years old kid, the "Transformers he remember" must be from the cartoons, not ROTF.

We just have to wait and see if the writing match his intentions before casting hasty judgement.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:06 am

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"No military"

They said the same thing about Dark of the Moon before that movie came out, and yet...


blackeyedprime wrote:Sounds like he's not screwing with beast wars so it may be the better of the two planned films.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:05 am

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Sabrblade wrote:"No military"

They said the same thing about Dark of the Moon before that movie came out, and yet...


blackeyedprime wrote:Sounds like he's not screwing with beast wars so it may be the better of the two planned films.
This isn't the Beast Wars film.

Plus what does no military mean? No military protagonist? No military antagonists? (Ala cemetery wind in AoE).

Bumblebee only used the fictionalised Section 7 in a secondary antagonist role behind Shatter and Dropkick.

Also Rodimus, what was said that indicates to you that it will be a bad movie? (Ostensibly a movie we won't see for 4 years most likely depending on when Blue Beetle is filming)
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:35 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?
Given the human-led focus of these films, most likely the human lead.



I see. I was curious. From what has been said of his theatre background, it might lend itself more to voice work than onscreen acting. Like a Jazz, Blurr, Wheelie or Wreck-Gar.

Nah, definitely human lead from whats been said elsewhere as supposedly, Optimus Prime helps him find the right path. I'm thinking he'll be a bit like Ant Man from the MCU, just instead of Michael Sheen, you have a giant robot that turns into a truck.


Wrong Michael ;)
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Postby william-james88 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:38 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:They seem to have this habit with the Live Action films of garnering good will. Then wiping it away with marketing...


They wipe it away with the finished product (aside from the Bee film)
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So is this guy going to be a human lead or VO?
Given the human-led focus of these films, most likely the human lead.



I see. I was curious. From what has been said of his theatre background, it might lend itself more to voice work than onscreen acting. Like a Jazz, Blurr, Wheelie or Wreck-Gar.

Nah, definitely human lead from whats been said elsewhere as supposedly, Optimus Prime helps him find the right path. I'm thinking he'll be a bit like Ant Man from the MCU, just instead of Michael Sheen, you have a giant robot that turns into a truck.


Wrong Michael ;)

It's Michael Douglas isn't it. Always have a blind spot with those two for some reason.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:33 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:They seem to have this habit with the Live Action films of garnering good will. Then wiping it away with marketing...


They wipe it away with the finished product (aside from the Bee film)


Touché. However, I did mean the good will garnered from the Bee film.

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:39 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:also Rodimus, what was said that indicates to you that it will be a bad movie?
Just the whole image they're projecting right now. And I'm saying this about both the announced so far projects. Seems like they have a certain message in mind which started with the Bumblebee movie and is continued here. I did end up seeing that film and it was a wash for me, so I have no hopes for these. I'm happy so see we're getting away from the Bay versions, less military focus is better, but less human focus would also be better. So I'm not intrigued. I might give it a shot once it's streaming.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:14 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:also Rodimus, what was said that indicates to you that it will be a bad movie?
Just the whole image they're projecting right now. And I'm saying this about both the announced so far projects. Seems like they have a certain message in mind which started with the Bumblebee movie and is continued here. I did end up seeing that film and it was a wash for me, so I have no hopes for these. I'm happy so see we're getting away from the Bay versions, less military focus is better, but less human focus would also be better. So I'm not intrigued. I might give it a shot once it's streaming.

A certain message in mind?

Also we're never going to get less human focused movie other then the cgi prequel they're doing. That's just the nature of the Beast at the moment.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby partholon » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:12 pm

a 50 mil transformers film dose not inspire. add in the current mindset of hollywood?

ive a bad feeling about this one.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:45 pm

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50 Mil for a Transformers film does seem really low...
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:53 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:50 Mil for a Transformers film does seem really low...

Hmm I wonder if there was a mistake somewhere as that's lower then Bumblebee's budget, which was the smallest of the live action films.
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