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Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Mon May 04, 2020 3:19 am

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TulioDude wrote:I believe that Barricade is alive.


He might be but the Tfwiki (yes I know it's fan made and thus not official word or anything) considers him to be dead so I was listing him off as dead as a possibility even though he's probably alive and I don't consider anyone dead where possible in these movies, I'm an advocate of the "Dino is alive" camp.

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is, that satisfys no one but those who don't like the movies.

This is true but you want to know what also wasn't satisfying to Bay fans?

The Last Knight, which is a shame because I went to that 25 minute movie preview thing where they had the early Hot Rod voice and such, and I liked what we saw there but then again very rarely does a preview pick the worst pieces from a film to show.

Still worth it for that poster and usb thing.

Obviously things were not properly planned but if it were up to me The Last Knight should of been a 2 part film, one dealing with the junk yard situation and a more down to Earth (literally) film with the Autobots dealing with Megatron's gang while part 2 would of been the whole Cybertron and Evil Prime stuff.

Sabrblade wrote:His lasting the longest was likely leftover from an earlier script in which he would have been decapitated and had his body taken over by Cogman, Headmaster-style, based on how the Nitro Zeus toy is Titan Master-compatible for seemingly no in-story reason when going off the final version of the movie.


While true of course, what was intended for the film and ultimately what is in the film are different things, regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TulioDude » Mon May 04, 2020 9:55 am

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Deadput wrote:regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.


Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios. ;)^
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Mon May 04, 2020 1:15 pm

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TulioDude wrote:
Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios. ;)^


This is true, the creative imagination from fans and creators is a big part of why Transformers is the way it is today.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:38 pm

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The Hollywood Reporter reports that yet another Transformers film is in the works, one separate from
  • the Bumblebee sequel written by Joby Harold and directed by Steven Caple, Jr.,
  • the Beast Wars project written by James Vanderbilt,
  • and the much older, still-in-the-works animated prequel film written by Andrew Barrer and Gabriel Ferrari and directed by Josh Cooley.
This new standalone project is to be written by Marco Ramirez and directed by Angel Manuel Soto.
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4 Transformers FIlms are now Currently in Development

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:45 pm

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Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade has informed us of a 4th Transformers film currently in development. That's right, with the addition of this one, there are now four transformers films with creative teams attached. Anything could happen, of course, but as of now all the projects are in development. This new film project is being written by Marco Ramirez (who wrote Netflix' Defenders) and has Angel Manuel Soto pegged as director Angel Manuel Soto, who did Charm City Kings. All that is known is that this film will not be linked to any current film series, it will be its own thing.

Here are the other 3 Transformers films currently in development:

- the Bumblebee sequel written by Joby Harold and directed by Steven Caple, Jr.,
- the Beast Wars project written by James Vanderbilt,
- the animated prequel film written by Andrew Barrer and Gabriel Ferrari and directed by Josh Cooley.

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The 7th Live Action Transformers Film will be FIlmed in Montreal and Peru on a $200 M Budget

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:00 pm

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While there are currently 4 Transformers films currently in development, the next live action installment in the live action film franchise will be shooting in Montreal in two studios, MELS Studios stage 3 and MTL Grandé. This will take place for 11 weeks, from July to September, before continuing filming in Peru. The site this comes from, Journal de Montréal, also states the budget is estimated to be $200 Million. This is more in line with the films that preceded Bumblebee, which is what Lorenzo di Bonaventura also stated a while back, when commenting that the next film would be a return to the bigger Transformers films.

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby First-Aid » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:38 pm

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Interesting tidbit.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I seem to be seeing more and more movies made outside of Hollywood, and not just the settings. I'm wagering the lower taxes and fees in states like Georgia where we are seeing a lot of movies being made, and in Vancouver and Montreal are making a difference. Off topic, but when they said Montreal, I was struck by how much of production has moved out of the state of California.

So now, the question every is wondering...

Will we FINALLY get an RCMP Transformer? :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS:
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TulioDude » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:22 am

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Best of luck for them!
Now we just wait for the titles to be confirmed.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby noctorro » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:40 am

Wow I am so completely void of being impressed.

Same producer, no-name people attached to the project.

A Bumblebee sequel without Travis Knight, I know he didn't want to do a sequel but still, who is this other guy?

200 milion dollars only means special effects and nice locations.

I'm just going to sit here waiting for the two Cyberverse movies and enjoy the great Generation toys that have come out in the past couple of years.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:00 am

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noctorro wrote:Wow I am so completely void of being impressed.

Same producer, no-name people attached to the project.

A Bumblebee sequel without Travis Knight, I know he didn't want to do a sequel but still, who is this other guy?

200 milion dollars only means special effects and nice locations.

I'm just going to sit here waiting for the two Cyberverse movies and enjoy the great Generation toys that have come out in the past couple of years.

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:31 pm

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noctorro wrote:Same producer, no-name people attached to the project.

Who cares who's working on it?

We need movies that are good, not prioritizing "celebrity directors" or whatever, Tavis Knight didn't get much hype for directing Bumblebee but it was a good movie anyways.

I'm sure if the films are good then these directors will get the same treatment.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:28 pm

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Deadput wrote:
noctorro wrote:Same producer, no-name people attached to the project.

Who cares who's working on it?

We need movies that are good, not prioritizing "celebrity directors" or whatever, Tavis Knight didn't get much hype for directing Bumblebee but it was a good movie anyways.


He got a ton of hype. He was the first ever director to make a live action film that wasn't Bay so there were a lot of eyes on him in the movie community. Plus he is the owner and head of America's premier stop motion animation studio, Laika, and the heir to the Nike fortune along with just having had his previous film nominated at the Oscars. So yeah, there was hype even if you didn't notice it.
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Rumours on Characters and Plot Elements In Upcoming Transformers Live Action Film

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:38 pm

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The next movie is going to start shooting soon so this will be one of many articles on what the next live action film will entail. The rumours below come to us from an insider in the graphics department, so it is based on concept art which, as we know, is not indicative of the finished product. It does make for fun rumours though. The main takeaway here is that, for the most part, the film acts as it's own thing and does not reference much in terms of past films in terms of plots and style. There will be of course some references, like the design of Bumblebee's head which has remained rather similar throughout all live action films. Of course, take all this with a grain of salt since it was posted on 4chan.

Ok, so let's get to it:

>So, I work at Paramount Pictures as a designer for posters and other memorabilia, I create posters for them and more stuff. >Anyway, I got into some cool info about the upcoming Transformers reboot and here it is:
>You may have heard that new leak about Beast Alliance, well, it's not a beast wars movie and it has nothing to do with beast wars. Beast Alliance is just a working title, lots of movies have weird titles like this that have nothing to do with the film, Star Wars had lots of them.
>It is a heist type film like Ant Man but with Transformers, Optimus Prime and crew are stealing an artifact, no idea what it is but energon is involved. Megatron and the decepticons are in, all in G1 designs.
>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.
>New human characters: black, white and latino leads eyed.
>Possibly a black girl and a white kid are eyed as leads.
>Steven Caple Jr. understands the IP from what I saw.
>Small cast of robots, a little bigger than 2007 film. Movie emphasises on love and heart like Bumblebee rather than lore.
>Now keep in mind, I know all this stuff from some small plot lines I got to read and concept art I saw but it seems this is the direction they are going. Very Indiana Jones/Ant Man heist adventure film than previous films. I also saw a new face for Bumblebee, no idea if they will use it or not, it gave Bumblebee a mouth but the head design was similar to the previous film (Bumblebee 2018 movie) one. Robots are also thicker in the concept art.

>It's Trans on top and Formers beneath like G1 and has THE too. I think a comparision on how the marketing will be like is Thor Ragnarok. The roster of robots as I'm aware of is the following:
>Optimus Prime
>Bumblebee
>Arcee
>Ratchet
>Ironhide
>Brawn
>Wheeljack
>Cheetor
>Megatron
>Starscream
>Soundwave
>Shockwave
>Coneheads and seekers

>There might be more, it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact. I did not see his design, only for Prime, Bumblebee, Starscream, Soundwave and Megatron.

>The designs are updated. They are still bulky and thicker. Very G1. Nothing like Bayverse, the Bumblebee I saw has a face with a mouth and it looks cute. Megatron looks very big, he is taller than Prime and has his fusion cannon. Starscream has a new head, very sleek and G1 and humanoid. Soundwave has a body that makes him look like he transforms into some type of van, his head is more G1 now and updated. They are more detailed overall. Megatron also has a humanoid face with the bucket helmet thing. Apparently there will be some Cybertron scenes in the film, the planet will look the same as in Bumblebee. Optimus head is the same as in Bumblebee.


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Re: Rumours on Characters and Plot Elements In Upcoming Transformers Live Action Film

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm

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it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.
Gee, I wonder what it could be? :roll:

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Whifflefire » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:43 am

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>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.


All I really needed to hear ;)^
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:47 am

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I'm taking this with a container of salt, could be true but there's also no reason to think this is true either.

There's quite a bit of details here, like anytime a movie rumor has a full/big cast of robots attached, it makes me suspicious like one of those fan-cast rosters.

Edit: Also a 4 Chan leak which are almost always wrong, there have been some true leaks there but most of the time it's just attention seeking.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby First-Aid » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:22 am

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Deadput wrote:I'm taking this with a container of salt, could be true but there's also no reason to think this is true either.


I whole container of salt? As a health care provider, I am professionally and morally obligated to say, "No, don't do that. THink of your blood pressure and the overall health of you kidneys, heart, small intestines, pancreas, and your left ring finger"...
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:35 pm

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>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.


All I really needed to hear ;)^
"Not acknowledging" still isn't the same thing as "contradicting". ;)
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Whifflefire » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:23 pm

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>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.


All I really needed to hear ;)^
"Not acknowledging" still isn't the same thing as "contradicting". ;)



As long as this all means that "Bumblebee" is the start of a new series so that I can treat the original trilogy as a separate entity (and continue suppressing TLK), I'll be happy. Similarities are fine and to be expected, but I hope the film doesn't feel obliged to adhere to the 2007 trilogy's timeline. Here's hoping for some great new stories to come.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:21 pm

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it seems they are doing the robot designs right this time
especially with starscream and megatron
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:53 pm

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I hope the rumor of the G1 inspired designs is wrong. I'm getting really tired of the "Evergreen" design philosophy. If you're doing new G1 media, then fine, use those designs, but if you're doing something entirely new, I feel like the designs should be new as well because otherwise everything might as well just be G1, and we lose new designs for classic characters like what came from Bayformers, UT, and to some extent Animated and Cyberverse.

Regardless of my opinion on designs however, if they can translate the designs well, and get good looking trailers out, this sounds interesting. Hopefully if they hire Peter Cullen and Frank Welker, they actually treat them well this time
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ck-jackson-j4zz » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:06 pm

I would very much like for them to include Jazz. This is Jazz erasure. He's Optimus' right hand bot (and also my personal favourite) and he seems to have been relegated to very small roles since the 07 movie. Prowl would be cool too, as I consider those two and Ironhide Prime's main lieutenants. Just my personal preference, though.
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Re: Rumours on Characters and Plot Elements In Upcoming Transformers Live Action Film

Postby Rodimus Knight » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:43 am

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it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.
Gee, I wonder what it could be? :roll:

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).


It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.
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Postby TulioDude » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:10 am

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it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.
Gee, I wonder what it could be? :roll:

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).


It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.


That makes a lot of sense.
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