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News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:14 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wouldn't Sari technically be a Micromaster?

I headcanon her as a headmaster who still have to find her transtechtor body.
If the season 4 rumors are to be believed, she would have been subtly alluded (as in, implied but never stated outright to keep the fans guessing and discussing) to being a time-displaced Maximal protoform from the future.

Okay that's... absolutely AWESOME!
Seriously, I vote for that! And she would transform into a bunny-girl. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:35 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I really hope the Beast Wars doesn't enter this Live Action universe. Use Cheetor out of context, ala Cyberverse. Sure. Just leave the rest alone.

I think if for the Beast Wars script not to move forward, you'll need the Bumblebee sequel to fail and have Cheetor being the blame. Otherwise you'll be looking at the live action (or let's face it, cgi ala the Lion King remake) Beast Wars in five yearsish.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:52 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wouldn't Sari technically be a Micromaster?

I headcanon her as a headmaster who still have to find her transtechtor body.
If the season 4 rumors are to be believed, she would have been subtly alluded (as in, implied but never stated outright to keep the fans guessing and discussing) to being a time-displaced Maximal protoform from the future.

Okay that's... absolutely AWESOME!
Seriously, I vote for that! And she would transform into a bunny-girl. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

She already has an altmode: Human.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:09 pm

Sabrblade wrote:She already has an altmode: Human.

I don't see a problem. This won't stop her from being a triple-changer.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:45 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:She already has an altmode: Human.

I don't see a problem. This won't stop her from being a triple-changer.

Ah, but it was established that those in Animated result in multiple personalities, hence Blitzwing. And Sari's personality just fine the way it is.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:59 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:She already has an altmode: Human.

I don't see a problem. This won't stop her from being a triple-changer.
Ah, but it was established that those in Animated result in multiple personalities, hence Blitzwing. And Sari's personality just fine the way it is.

Oh yeah, that.
Still, she could always have a "super mode" down the line. Maybe like being stranded in some country-wide scrapyard (or the Junkion planet) then with her genius she can Tony stark'd something. 8-)

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:06 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:She already has an altmode: Human.

I don't see a problem. This won't stop her from being a triple-changer.
Ah, but it was established that those in Animated result in multiple personalities, hence Blitzwing. And Sari's personality just fine the way it is.

Oh yeah, that.
Still, she could always have a "super mode" down the line. Maybe like being stranded in some country-wide scrapyard (or the Junkion planet) then with her genius she can Tony stark'd something.

She kinda had that back when she first upgraded herself and went berserk. AllSpark Key and such.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:17 pm

Sabrblade wrote:She kinda had that back when she first upgraded herself and went berserk. AllSpark Key and such.

Yup. But she can go further.

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News Credits: 34 · by **Supreme Convoy** » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:34 pm

I have no idea about movie budgets anymore. $50 million does sound on par with something like Cloverfield. So I'd be curious what they do next!

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:16 am

Supreme Convoy wrote:I have no idea about movie budgets anymore. $50 million does sound on par with something like Cloverfield. So I'd be curious what they do next!

To give you an idea, the new Mortal Kombat movie has a $50 million budget. Bumblebee had a $135 million budget.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:36 am

To me, a lower budget Transformers film means less Transformers.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:06 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To me, a lower budget Transformers film means less Transformers.

I'm not sure you can say that. Initially the expense was because the technology was new and not as highly developed, took a ton of manhours, and huge resources. AS the live action movies progressed, the CGI progressed and is likely much more affordable as it was in the start, and the stunts and changeovers are probably smoother. The digital models are already in place for current characters so they don't need to be developed. Stunts and stuntmen are a huge cost (read: insurance) so if there isn't going to be excessive action and explosives, insurance costs are likely lower. Insurance required for explosive use alone is probably a ton. So, this may only mean less over the top action, and use of character models already designed/developed thus reducing manhours.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm

Also, no huge superstars that cost a gazillion piastres just to fart on screen.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:29 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, no huge superstars that cost a gazillion piastres just to fart on screen.

Yup

Cgi does indeed take a big part of the budget but it's hardly the only expensive thing.

Not getting super Hollywood actors and limiting the amount of different locations for filming would indeed reduce the amount of needed budget, same also depends on the vehicle mode choices since if they don't use super expensive sports cars the budget gets lowered as well.

Plus a big potential reason for a reduced budget for the film? The Last Knight and how it performed, it's understandable that this next project wants to take precautions in the event that things don't turn out well again.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:00 pm

First-Aid wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To me, a lower budget Transformers film means less Transformers.

I'm not sure you can say that. Initially the expense was because the technology was new and not as highly developed, took a ton of manhours, and huge resources. AS the live action movies progressed, the CGI progressed and is likely much more affordable as it was in the start, and the stunts and changeovers are probably smoother. The digital models are already in place for current characters so they don't need to be developed. Stunts and stuntmen are a huge cost (read: insurance) so if there isn't going to be excessive action and explosives, insurance costs are likely lower. Insurance required for explosive use alone is probably a ton. So, this may only mean less over the top action, and use of character models already designed/developed thus reducing manhours.

I'm only comparing it to the Bee film. This being less than half of the budget of that. Which, as far as I can recall, didn't have a big name star or excessive stunts either. Plus as far as character models go, everyone (outside of Cybertron) except for BB, is dead by the end of the film. So I don't really know who could be reused in a sequel?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:14 pm

Deadput wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, no huge superstars that cost a gazillion piastres just to fart on screen.

Yup

Cgi does indeed take a big part of the budget but it's hardly the only expensive thing.

Not getting super Hollywood actors and limiting the amount of different locations for filming would indeed reduce the amount of needed budget, same also depends on the vehicle mode choices since if they don't use super expensive sports cars the budget gets lowered as well.

Plus a big potential reason for a reduced budget for the film? The Last Knight and how it performed, it's understandable that this next project wants to take precautions in the event that things don't turn out well again.

I doubt it as the 2022 film has had its budget increased, heading back to former levels.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:51 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm only comparing it to the Bee film. This being less than half of the budget of that. Which, as far as I can recall, didn't have a big name star

John Cena?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm only comparing it to the Bee film. This being less than half of the budget of that. Which, as far as I can recall, didn't have a big name star
John Cena?

...

Big Star = Someone with enough clout to get top billing and sell the film. As far as I can recall, BB didn't have an actors name on any promo or poster.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm only comparing it to the Bee film. This being less than half of the budget of that. Which, as far as I can recall, didn't have a big name star
John Cena?

Big Star = Someone with enough clout to get top billing and sell the film. As far as I can recall, BB didn't have an actors name on any promo or poster.

Pretty certain John Cena at least sorta counts, there was a bunch of marketing such as promo videos with him, he was also visible as a character on many of the posters.

He was in more press marketing than Hailee was I think.