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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby WolfSpider1979 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:38 am

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NO! NO! SMEG NO! They can't have it! If they want "My Little Pony", that's one thing. I'd still shove two fingers in their face with a raspberry. Those piece of smeg jerk-wads have ruined what Walt made. They have sullied that company with the cries of PERVERTS for more! I have a feeling they'll try to make Sideswipe and Sunstreaker grope in a closet for a month, then "bring them out" with Red Alert. NO SMEGGING WAY! :twisted:

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:28 am

Seibertron wrote:This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It is still a choice.


The choice between employment and unemployment isn't really much of a choice when the latter means unmanageable financial insecurity for you and your family. Freelancing in creative work isn't the most stable thing one can do, either.

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The unchallenged assumption here is that "just how it works in a capitalist society" is desirable. Systemic exploitation of others, no matter how necessary it is for the survival of the company that does it, is not good.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby KNM2012 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:30 am

WolfSpider1979 wrote:NO! NO! SMEG NO! They can't have it! If they want "My Little Pony", that's one thing. I'd still shove two fingers in their face with a raspberry. Those piece of smeg jerk-wads have ruined what Walt made. They have sullied that company with the cries of PERVERTS for more! I have a feeling they'll try to make Sideswipe and Sunstreaker grope in a closet for a month, then "bring them out" with Red Alert. NO SMEGGING WAY! :twisted:

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One, you ignored the fact that this was a rumor.
Two, you did not see that this cannot happen as-is.
And three, Robert Iger is not Michael Eisner.

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby BumbleDouche » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:34 am

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Kinda funny coincidence, I was just the other day mulling over this as a possibility in light of Disney's recent purchase of Lucasfilm. I kinda wonder if even the mighty Disney is maybe over-extending its vast resources. I mean, several very high profile acquisitions with Marvel, Lucasfilm, the Muppets and Pixar before that... Clearly the Disney company is very well-off, but surely even they must feel a substantial punch from such massive purchases?

And what would this mean for Disney-branded Transformers media? Disney is notorious for sealing movies/media in their "vault" and producing only limited runs on DVD/Blu-Ray media to ensure maximum suckage from a customer perspective. Indeed, there are vast amounts of quality, pioneering animation and other expensive, first-run animated TV series they have simply refused to release. Can we expect similar treatment with Transformers-related media in the future? Worse, would such a deal signal the death of all current Transformers multimedia, like the IDW license, Prime TV Show, etc? Surely Hasbro, working hard of late to boost the Transformers brand, would not thoroughly rape their Prime (heh) product in the middle of a new "renaissance" period?
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby El Duque » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:49 am

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The rumor mill was sent into overdrive earlier this week when MTV Geek reported a rumor that Disney was looking into purchasing Hasbro. This coming shortly after Disney shocked the entertainment world with their 4.05 billion dollar acquisition of Lucasfilm. This prompted CNBC's David Faber to contact Hasbro for confirmation or denial. According to Hasbro's advisors there is nothing going on between Hasbro and Disney. See below:

Source: Providence Journal


Providence Journal wrote:Stock in the Pawtucket-based toymaker (HAS:Nasdaq) spiked 6.8 percent to $38.66 at the opening bell amid speculation that Disney (DIS:NYSE) was preparing a multi-billion dollar bid for Hasbro.

Hasbro declined comment, citing its policy of not talking about rumor or speculation. CNBC analyst David Faber reported that Hasbro's advisors told him there's "absolutely nothing going on that they are aware of at all, in any way, shape or form" involving Hasbro or Disney.
Wall Street analysts said a Disney acquisition didn't make much sense, just after Disney agreed to buy Lucasfilm Ltd. for $4.05 billion. And for any deal to happen, Hasbro would have to dissolve agreements with Disney's competitors.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Nyancatron » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:48 am

YAY, Hasbro gets to not be homogenized goo!

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby mattwhite924 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:08 am

Maybe someday a deal like this would be good, but not right now.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:57 am

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When they mentioned that they'd have to cut relations with Disney's competitors, it makes much more sense against its presumed integration with Disney. Kinda glad it wasn't going to happen. Could't stand the fact my hobby was owned by the Mouse. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Dominus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:48 am

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Mkall » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:59 pm

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I was kind of hoping this would be true, which would mean more money and production quality for the figures we love. Oh well.

I guess 3rd Parties can stop worrying for now.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Manterax Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:24 pm

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Saw that a couple days ago. It really shouldn't work.....but it does for some reason.
Also, you do realize this is Bandai's way of bringing Disney into the world of Super Sentai kinda like how Takara did the Disney Label transformers. This is basically a Disney label megazord.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Dominus Prime » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:26 pm

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:45 pm

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KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Besides, you also forgot to mention that Squaresoft went bankrupt because they put a huge sum of money building Square Pictures and watched their first (and only) movie go bust. Yet, Enix was doing great with their publications and made enough to purchase their former rival, prior to making it be a merger. That, and it is going strong despite having a partnership with Disney. ;)



Ah yes, I did neglect to mention that, but it was one of the driving forces behind the changeup of staff at Squaresoft. I suppose it did also very much put them in a position to be taken over by Enix.

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1. Disney already sells Transformer toys in at least 2 locations (Japan inside Epcot and at Downtown Disney) so I doubt they have a problem with the guns and "violence" of Transformers.


:shock: Where? I saw what they had at Epcot but couldn't find anything at Downtown Disney last time I was there.

Nyancatron wrote:YAY, Hasbro gets to not be homogenized goo!

:BOWDOWN:


And continue sucking, sadly. :P

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Seibertron wrote:This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It is still a choice.


The choice between employment and unemployment isn't really much of a choice when the latter means unmanageable financial insecurity for you and your family. Freelancing in creative work isn't the most stable thing one can do, either.

Seibertron wrote:Companies are in business to make money. That's not evil. That's not wrong. It's just how it works in a capitalist society.


The unchallenged assumption here is that "just how it works in a capitalist society" is desirable. Systemic exploitation of others, no matter how necessary it is for the survival of the company that does it, is not good.


The point he's trying to make is that these employees were paid wages for their work, and that standard practice in the industry is that the artists do not retain the rights for projects they worked on. They were compensated for their work and have no right to be demanding royalties. When you work for a company you sign a contract entailing the terms of your employment, and if you don't agree with its contents, it's your own fault for signing it without paying attention. The only way Disney would be at fault is if they agreed that royalties would be paid and then went back on that agreement. The whole argument of 'They were under pressure to work for Disney' is invalid. Everyone has a choice to work for the type of company they want to work for. If they didn't like the way Disney does things, they could have found employment elsewhere.
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:04 pm

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kirbenvost wrote: :shock: Where? I saw what they had at Epcot but couldn't find anything at Downtown Disney last time I was there.
Inside the largest room of the "Once Upon a Toy" store. They've had TFs for sale in that room as far back as Beast Machines (Beast Wars toys were sold in another location of the park back when those were for sale). :)
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Bumbleshot » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:24 pm

Thank Primus.. -.-
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby NTESHFT » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:01 pm

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Mkall wrote:I was kind of hoping this would be true, which would mean more money and production quality for the figures we love. Oh well.

I guess 3rd Parties can stop worrying for now.



This was what I was thinking too. As you said, oh well. Third party guys rejoice. You'll be getting more of my money.....
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby EagleBot13 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:39 pm

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby KNM2012 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:57 pm

Nyancatron wrote:YAY, Hasbro gets to not be homogenized goo!

:BOWDOWN:


Yes, it will not be the logic behind your hatred. :lol:

And besides, if you found out what the conditions at some of Hasbro's former factories, you would have probably preferred Disney buying them out - As they would have made sure that all or any factories in China (and not the United States) would have been void of inhumane issues. >:oP
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:11 pm

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kirbenvost wrote: :shock: Where? I saw what they had at Epcot but couldn't find anything at Downtown Disney last time I was there.
Inside the largest room of the "Once Upon a Toy" store. They've had TFs for sale in that room as far back as Beast Machines (Beast Wars toys were sold in another location of the park back when those were for sale). :)


I think I went in that store too! Must've missed it. #-o Ah well, next time I'll look harder!
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby BumbleDouche » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:00 pm

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"And besides, if you found out what the conditions at some of Hasbro's former factories, you would have probably preferred Disney buying them out - As they would have made sure that all or any factories in China (and not the United States) would have been void of inhumane issues."

The fact that I can't find me an MP-10 Masterpiece Prime anywhere is downright INHUMANE! Those kids need to get back to work so I can adorn my display case
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Re: Disney Looking to Acquire Hasbro?

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:03 pm

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You know, when I first read the rumor I was vomiting all my sphincters in rage at the prospect of Disney owning Hasbro. The chance that all future Transformers series might be as horrid as Animated (which Hasbro inflicted upon themselves) made my intestines wrench in my brain. Then I got to thinking about how much would something like that actually change the company.

Looking at Marvel, which is flourishing right now (not because they were bought by Disney of course), there's really nothing different about how they do things or what they produce. Deadpool still kills people and gets parts of him exploded off, Tony Stark still has a drinking problem, and The Avengers was (so I hear) an excellent movie.

Disney isn't stupid enough to completely change a company they buy out when it's already doing well for it's self. In fact, they could only benefit it because of the extra funding Disney could provide for the company. In the case of Transformers, we would see a sharp increase in the quality (or at least the size) of the toys. We might see a Disney reference in an episode or a comic or movie or something, but Disney hasn't been around for so long by doing stupid things like replacing major characters of acquired franchises with Goofy.

With these thoughts in mind, I quickly (within a day) came to terms with the idea that this might happen. The thought still made my throat prolapse a little, but all my pieces remained internal. Now that this rumor has been debunked, I can swallow again. However, now the possibility of this purchase is in their minds...

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