TFWIKI wrote:According to Hasbro, toys that represent flying characters are given more stringent drop tests and rounded/collapsible bits, as children (and the kind of adults who buy Transformers, actually) are more prone to throwing these figures around or ramming them into things (or people).
Honestly, would you guys stop buying TF's just because there's no Prime or Megs?
g1transformers wrote:G1 has its place in the hearts of all Tranformers fans. Without it there would be nothing. Newer fans and even G1 fans all would like new toy tech to improve upon and get us new lines like Alts, BT and Titanium. Once the G1 generation moves into their 40s and then 50s we might see some movement away from our much beloved and reincarnated OP, Megs and the rest in series after series with the same basis of the battle between good and evil.
Tak/Tomy/Hasbro know a good thing when they see it. 30 somethings with disposal income wanting to relive their childhood. This above all else is why G1 remains so popular. Time will tell if this will last when we G1'ers are in our 40s and 50s.
Phenotype wrote:Wow, guess nobody here wants anything new or different. Why even bother making new TF's lines? They should just reissue G1 figures over and over again, clearly that's what you all want.
Lord~Soundwave wrote:Yeah but g1 isnt what started transformers it was microman and daiclona adapted ny a toy complany to make a quick buck on a tv show like every tv show. I am look forward to thr new animated series and the art style also its like a fresh breath of air in a large smog pit called transformers.
Phenotype wrote:Wow, guess nobody here wants anything new or different. Why even bother making new TF's lines? They should just reissue G1 figures over and over again, clearly that's what you all want.
zodconvoy wrote:Phenotype wrote:Wow, guess nobody here wants anything new or different. Why even bother making new TF's lines? They should just reissue G1 figures over and over again, clearly that's what you all want.
Which is that: melodrama or sarcasm? They've done new things. All new, all different things. Beast Wars was epic. But look at Beast Machines. Religion and philosiphy? Where else were you going to get that on Fox Kids in 1999? Most fans hated it. I didn't, I own the boxset. But the toys were shelf warmers for years afterwards. Next they freaked and gave us the Japanese import Car Robots or Robots in Disguise. The show was fresh, happenin', where it's at. It even introduced some of the freshest concepts since TF:TM. Virtually every single character was new, Scourge ie Nemisis Prime, the Decepticons as an elite strike force within the Predacon army, even a Megatron that had 10+ alt modes! It brought back the cityformer Fortress Maximus (of course the Federal regs on toy safety kept it off the shelf in this country.) They even made the show global by reinventing the space bridge and letting them drive anywhere in the world. And what happened? We hated it. The show tanked. After the first wave, the toys didn't move.
What's the first rule of business? Give them what they want.
Armada should have been a great show. Every name was culled from G1, even the new characters had recycled name even if they didn't fit the character. The new hook, the Minicons, even sounded cool. What did we get? Neon colors. Crappy toys. Pokemon. Even when they finally gave us something we'd been asking for for more than 15 years all we did was complain and Unicron himself was a shelf warmer. Moving on to Energon. The most obvious homage and blantant pandering to G1 fans ever. Prime was G1 redone (as a pregnant lady but still.) Megatron was Galvatron to a T. Starscream a transparent green "ghost". Even Ultra Magnus, Rodimus and Arcee for no other reason than to shut us up and follow the G1 storyarc. After Unicron, post-Movie characters. It was so G1 that every single figure I've mentioned fits almost perfectly on the Classics shelf. But the cartoon sucked and Dreamwave went but in the middle of the comics. So for the adult fans, all that was left was wandering through a TRU looking for what was familiar. The Transformers line nearly died. I can still go to the KMart near my house and find Energon toys. Cybertron didn't bounce it back very well either. Of every TF line ever, US and Japan, Cybertron is the one I own the least from and I'm not the only one who can say that. The show was an improvement over Energon I've been told but I never watched it. I got Optimus Galvatron Soundwave and my girlfriend got me Supreme Starscream for Christmas. The only things that kept me in were Classics and Alternators/Binaltech/Kiss. The shear promise of the Movie saved the series for a large portion of the adult market. That's why we were flipping over tiny details of the movie like eye color and faceplates and flame detailing. That movie was what we had to hold on to. Classics was a filler line to keep us happy and spending $10 a month until the movie came out. It ended up selling so well that they're bringing it back next year. Everthing they do that succeeds is based on G1 for good reason. The characters. Season 1 alone had 30+ distinct characters. Not all of them got the spotlight for long but the ones that did? Optimus was a Peterbilt King Arthur. The Megatron and Starscream dynamic alone was Shakespearian. The humans weren't prominant enough to get in the way, unlike later series. After all, we know what people are like and they weren't getting toys anyway. Spike was old enough to drive us a gun and work construction but stiil had an almost childlike wonder about them that made us want to be him. Something I think the movie captured very well.
So, yes, Transformers need G1 still to this day. Series that deviate too far fail. But that's not just our fault. Find one kid that doesn't want an Optimus Prime. One boy that doesn't want to be Spike or Sam. The reason why Transformers doesn't change much in because in 1984 they struck gold. They've tried other things but they keep coming back to what works. Now excuse me I have to take my nephew to Toys R Us at 3:00 so he can buy a leader class movie Optimus Prime with his birthday money. He wants me to bring over my Megatron so we can fight afterwards.
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Damolisher wrote:Lord~Soundwave wrote:Yeah but g1 isnt what started transformers it was microman and daiclona adapted ny a toy complany to make a quick buck on a tv show like every tv show. I am look forward to thr new animated series and the art style also its like a fresh breath of air in a large smog pit called transformers.
Yeah, G1 started TRANSFORMERS. Diaclone and Microman are different Series. And without G1 there'd BE NO TRANSFORMERS FRANCHISE.
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