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Thinktank wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Eradicator wrote:QFT! I completely agree.

But when it gets down to it comments like that aren’t fair. I bet the majority of those who say I shouldn’t be posting my opinion have badmouthed the movie Swindle toy in threads about him.

How would it be an interesting conversation if people just keep coming up saying the same thing? I’m sorry if I’m being a party pooper or “ruining” your one sided discussions, but I have as much right to post my opinion as the next guy.

No one ever gives me an example of why I’m wrong or why this is a good show, instead I get told that I should quit watching the show or in other words “I disagree with you, and so does the majority so you shouldn’t post your opinion.”.

It’s the unsaid rule that if you don’t agree with the crowd you cant post.

I seriously think you guys need to calm down and respect my opinion, rather than tell me why I should quit posting it.

At first I was thinking "well he is entitled to his opinion..."
but then I see this:

Nekoman wrote:Easy.

Animated.

Animated so far has been from what I can tell a general failure, like it or not. First, the show sucks bad, one of the worst television programs I have ever seen. Its getting moved to six in the morning on a Monday which screams ratings drop to me. Then the toys, they look like they’ll be decent but they’re coming out seven months after the show first started airing? That’s more than half a year!

To me it feels like “Hey guys, have you seen that Ben Ten? Kids love that crap! Which gives me the idea… Transformers + style of popular kids show + ??? = big success!”

I think animated is easily the worst transformers related thing ever. With the combination of some backwards marketing and a horrible concept, I get the feeling we’ll be seeing some dusty cards out there…

Over, and over, and over. We get it. You don't like TFA.
yet strangely you keep watching it... Do you not see the
inherent lack of logic in this?

So, wait… let me get this straight, I’m entitled to my opinion, but if I keep watching the show I’m not? Cause that’s what I got out of your statement. Not to mention your quoting me from a topic on what the biggest mistake was in Transformers history from another forum and I think animated is just that.

Instead of all this “bile” how about you tell me where you think I’m wrong? And besides I don’t care if you get it, I’m posting MY opinion on the subject.

Saber Prime wrote:There's some HUGE missinterpretation going on here. There was NEVER an "Allspark" in Beast Wars or Beast Machines. What was said is that "All sparks would eventually join the Matrix" but there was no secred object called the "Allspark".

It's possible whoever added the "Allspark" as an all powerfull object in the movie got the idea by the same missinterpritation you got from Beast Wars/Machines but I assure you the "AllSpark" as a life giving object didn't exsist till 2007.

Thanks for the clarification Saber. To be honest, it wasn't anything I saw in Beast Wars/Machines that gave me that idea, I just recall coming across some reference to BW/M under the wikipedia 'allspark' entry.

Sorry for the misunderstanding folks, I'm more than happy to blame Mr. Bay

Any Canuckleheads know when Part 2 is going to reair on YTV? I just found out the other day that I missed it.

Nekoman wrote:So, wait… let me get this straight, I’m entitled to my opinion, but if I keep watching the show I’m not? Cause that’s what I got out of your statement. Not to mention your quoting me from a topic on what the biggest mistake was in Transformers history from another forum and I think animated is just that.

Instead of all this “bile” how about you tell me where you think I’m wrong? And besides I don’t care if you get it, I’m posting MY opinion on the subject.

It's simple: If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Shadowman wrote:

Nekoman wrote:So, wait… let me get this straight, I’m entitled to my opinion, but if I keep watching the show I’m not? Cause that’s what I got out of your statement. Not to mention your quoting me from a topic on what the biggest mistake was in Transformers history from another forum and I think animated is just that.

Instead of all this “bile” how about you tell me where you think I’m wrong? And besides I don’t care if you get it, I’m posting MY opinion on the subject.

It's simple: If you don't like it, don't watch it.

No.

I’m not going to stop, maybe one reason is because I cant change the channel and see a better transformers show. No, I’m not going to stop, just cause some guys on the internet told me so. No, I’m not going to stop because it’s a bad show. No, I wont stop because I have been keeping close watch of the Transformers franchise since I was very young. No, I wont stop because Transformers are one of my biggest hobbies. No, I wont stop, no matter what anyone tells me.

No I wont stop.

No I will never stop.

Nekoman wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Nekoman wrote:So, wait… let me get this straight, I’m entitled to my opinion, but if I keep watching the show I’m not? Cause that’s what I got out of your statement. Not to mention your quoting me from a topic on what the biggest mistake was in Transformers history from another forum and I think animated is just that.

Instead of all this “bile” how about you tell me where you think I’m wrong? And besides I don’t care if you get it, I’m posting MY opinion on the subject.

It's simple: If you don't like it, don't watch it.

No.

I’m not going to stop, maybe one reason is because I cant change the channel and see a better transformers show. No, I’m not going to stop, just cause some guys on the internet told me so. No, I’m not going to stop because it’s a bad show. No, I wont stop because I have been keeping close watch of the Transformers franchise since I was very young. No, I wont stop because Transformers are one of my biggest hobbies. No, I wont stop, no matter what anyone tells me.

No I wont stop.

No I will never stop.

So...you won't stop watching a show you hate because...why? It's still a little hazy there.

Shadowman wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Shadowman wrote:It's simple: If you don't like it, don't watch it.

No.

I’m not going to stop, maybe one reason is because I cant change the channel and see a better transformers show. No, I’m not going to stop, just cause some guys on the internet told me so. No, I’m not going to stop because it’s a bad show. No, I wont stop because I have been keeping close watch of the Transformers franchise since I was very young. No, I wont stop because Transformers are one of my biggest hobbies. No, I wont stop, no matter what anyone tells me.

No I wont stop.

No I will never stop.

So...you won't stop watching a show you hate because...why? It's still a little hazy there.

Mainly because I have watched every other TF show before it and wont stop with this one. I’ve enjoyed every other TF series unlike this one, but I can spend twenty-four minutes of my life to watch this, say I did, come here and complain or not (you know, there have been a couple episodes I wasn’t negative about) or just see what happens.

I love Transformers, I hate Animated, Animated is Transformers, which why I’m watching the show.

Dude, you can watch it all you like.
I just am tired reading your constant belicose mewling about it.
By all means waste your time in front of the TV, waste your time on
the Internet just for the love of the Matrix quit wasting our time
with your pissing and moaning.

The show is doing well.
The toys due to build up seem pretty damned likely to "knock one
out of the park".

You don't either, we get that. How about you put your most polished
gem of negativity on the topic in your Sig, that way you may
feel lest compelled to pop off about how TFA is T3h SuXXz0rs daily.

You need something else to watch, try this selection:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_d/002 ... ansformers
I'm sure you can find something else to percolate over.

You get me?

Bumblethumper wrote:Thanks for the clarification Saber. To be honest, it wasn't anything I saw in Beast Wars/Machines that gave me that idea, I just recall coming across some reference to BW/M under the wikipedia 'allspark' entry.

Sorry for the misunderstanding folks, I'm more than happy to blame Mr. Bay

Don't castigate yourself too much over it.
In BW Rhinox explains that all Maximal sparks are created by
"the Matrix" which may be a facility(Predacon sparks are produced
at "The Pit"). The oracle goes on at length in the beginning of
BMac about how "all are connected through the Matrix" which has
sort of "The Force" flavor ala Star Wars. Here is fairly detailed
article on the Allspark: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Allspark

Thinktank wrote:Dude, you can watch it all you like.
I just am tired reading your constant belicose mewling about it.
By all means waste your time in front of the TV, waste your time on
the Internet just for the love of the Matrix quit wasting our time
with your pissing and moaning.

The show is doing well.
The toys due to build up seem pretty damned likely to "knock one
out of the park".

You don't either, we get that. How about you put your most polished
gem of negativity on the topic in your Sig, that way you may
feel lest compelled to pop off about how TFA is T3h SuXXz0rs daily.

You need something else to watch, try this selection:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_d/002 ... ansformers
I'm sure you can find something else to percolate over.

You get me?

Here’s what you don’t seem to get. Its your problem, not mine. Your tired of reading my opinion, but yet you consistently read it? Your telling me not to come here and say what I think because you don’t agree.

And about what Amazon has, I’ve seen all that stuff. I want something new, and good.

I’m just going to tell you I’m not going to stop saying what I think. I’m not doing anything against forum rules. I didn’t flame anyone, I’m not trolling, what’s your problem? Stop telling me what to post and mind your own business. I don’t mean to sound rude, but telling me that I should just quit posting isn’t right.

Nekoman wrote:Mainly because I have watched every other TF show before it and wont stop with this one. I’ve enjoyed every other TF series unlike this one, but I can spend twenty-four minutes of my life to watch this, say I did, come here and complain or not (you know, there have been a couple episodes I wasn’t negative about) or just see what happens.

I love Transformers, I hate Animated, Animated is Transformers, which why I’m watching the show.

I feel the same way about TFs, except I don't feel the need to watch, say, every episode of Cybertron, because I don't like Cybertron. I will, however, occasionally watch Beast Wars, and I try to catch every episode of Animated, because I like Beast Wars and Animated. If Cybertron comes on, I'll find something else to watch.

Here's the problem-you may think you have the right to post your opinion on the show, but unfortunately, it's not a reasoned opinion anymore, it's pre-biased, unexplained whining. "Megatron is teh stupids because I say so, the plot, while more logical than every animated TF other than BW before it is stupid, Animated is teh sucks, the animation is fail even when it's 100% better than mass-market crapime, etc." We get it, you don't like the show, you don't like the things in the show. But your posts are no more than "Animated sucks" in more words every week.

And I've watched every single Gundam released in North America except for MS IGLOO, and I've actually really liked every single one, but I still stopped watching 00 after 6 episodes. If it doesn't live up to what you expect from the franchise, it may as well not be part of it, and thus you not watch it, no? Because if you're watching it because it's Transformers, you must still like it as Transformers.

carbsmith wrote:Here's the problem-you may think you have the right to post your opinion on the show, but unfortunately, it's not a reasoned opinion anymore, it's pre-biased, unexplained whining. "Megatron is teh stupids because I say so, the plot, while more logical than every animated TF other than BW before it is stupid, Animated is teh sucks, the animation is fail even when it's 100% better than mass-market crapime, etc." We get it, you don't like the show, you don't like the things in the show. But your posts are no more than "Animated sucks" in more words every week.

First, I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MY OPINION. Second, you made up **** I never said. I usually try to give a reason as to why I think something isn’t done right.

I’m going to tell you that I found your post very offensive, you just came out and mocked me. Your rude. After the first episode I saw I quit complaining about the animation as I knew it would be pointless to complain about since it wasn’t going to get better.

My posts ARE more then “animated sucks”, if your aren’t blind you should be able to tell.

jeez, calm down and show some love peeps, look neko, you dont like it, thats fine, and voicing your opinions is fine no matter what anybody says, if they dont like it, then they can just skip whatever it is your posting, i for one can never understand why people moan about what others are saying because simply, if you dont like it, dont read it. Sayin that i was determined to hate animated, i hate the artwork of it, but the more i watch, the more i find it just childish fun, i dont class it as transformers tbh, its just light hearted.

carbsmith opinions are welcome around here unless they are being forced on others.