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by **Rated X** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:09 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Sometimes I wonder where the line is for things that are too far for BBTS or TFSource. KOs are obviously out, but what Delicate Warrior ok, but not Hegemon? How do the Impossible Toys products get a pass?

I guess it depends on the person and the character. Megatron's a flagship character. Arcee's not. May be that.

And on 3rd party stuff earning more $$$ than Hasbro / Takara stock ...

Fansprojects has made .... how many items? In their entire existence? Compared to just Hasbro's classics lines? (which sell out). Yeah, I don't care how much more expencive the price is, Hasbro stuff bring in more money. By sheer quantity it brings more in.

Hasbro crap is just a small percentage of BBTS stock. Their specialty seems to be adult collectibles ranging from science fiction to comic book characters. Hand half of that stuff is 3rd party. TF Source might sell more hasbro stuff since it seems to be dedicated to only Transformers and related products. If it werent for 3rd party stuff, who would waste their time shopping online ? I can get all the Hasbro crap in retail.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Rated X wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Sometimes I wonder where the line is for things that are too far for BBTS or TFSource. KOs are obviously out, but what Delicate Warrior ok, but not Hegemon? How do the Impossible Toys products get a pass?

I guess it depends on the person and the character. Megatron's a flagship character. Arcee's not. May be that.

And on 3rd party stuff earning more $$$ than Hasbro / Takara stock ...

Fansprojects has made .... how many items? In their entire existence? Compared to just Hasbro's classics lines? (which sell out). Yeah, I don't care how much more expencive the price is, Hasbro stuff bring in more money. By sheer quantity it brings more in.

Hasbro crap is just a small percentage of BBTS stock. Their specialty seems to be adult collectibles ranging from science fiction to comic book characters. Hand half of that stuff is 3rd party. TF Source might sell more hasbro stuff since it seems to be dedicated to only Transformers and related products. If it werent for 3rd party stuff, who would waste their time shopping online ? I can get all the Hasbro crap in retail.

Your point is utter nonsense. They constantly sell out of Hasbro stuff regardless of your participation (and Takara, who you HAVE to import, although you keep on forgetting about them). I'd like to see some hard evidence of your point other than just what you suppose is true. Why would they turn away the TON of stuff they sell out of all the time, that arrives consistantly to import VERY pricy 3rd party stuff that MIGHT come in at some future point?

by **Rated X** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:41 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Your point is utter nonsense. They constantly sell out of Hasbro stuff regardless of your participation (and Takara, who you HAVE to import, although you keep on forgetting about them). I'd like to see some hard evidence of your point other than just what you suppose is true. Why would they turn away the TON of stuff they sell out of all the time, that arrives consistantly to import VERY pricy 3rd party stuff that MIGHT come in at some future point?

So youre saying BBTS buys all that weird sci-fi stuff just to look pretty online ??? Have you ever seen all the s**t BBTS sells that has nothing to do with Transformers ??? Predator, Ghostbusters, Scarface, Gundam, Killer Clowns, Weird alien movie characters I never even heard of...

Has/Tak is by no means a lifeline for BBTS. Maybe for TFSource, but not BBTS...

All Im saying if I was BBTS, I would sell Art-Feather Bumblebee. And if Has/Tak had a problem with it, I would send them an e-mail with this:

by **Mekatron** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:01 am

I think it's time you stop playing backseat-driver and start your own online sales company: x-ratedtransformers.com

The domain name IS available...

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:03 am

BBTS wholesale is a Hasbro powerhouse.
You really think a handful of third party toys makes more money
Then cases of Hasbro product across all lines?

Yeah they sell other stuff, but your comparison is between Hastak
And Thirdpartys, in which there is no compare.
Third party is a very small niche market, and I'm willing to bet
The major e-trailers mainly carry them for the fans.
I bet you the margins are smaller then you think.

But your assumptions are merely that.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:44 am

This is the 2nd thread you've started and continued an off-topic argument in within the past week, Rated X. I suggest not doing it a third time.

Let's get back to talking about Assaulter, not about e-tailer policies.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:56 am

Sandstorm next, FP, and then please with Blitzwing already!

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:46 pm

c/o FPC's site

Monday, October 1, 2012 - 4:01 PM
Thanks to all our fans for all the patience with so many projects going on. We have many announcements to make starting with this one. FPC will be releasing pre-orders soon for Assaulter and has confirmed with FP that members of FPC that order will receive a bonus with their figure.

This is FP’s thanks to FPC and it’s members for their support with Steel Core's first roll-out. We’ve done some refinements to the system as per feedback and will have those covered in another announcement.

The pre-order date will be announced soon, so stay tuned!

by **Mekatron** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:48 pm

Looks like FPC will have preorders up soon! Hopefully shipping goes a bit more smoothly this time around.

by **Mekatron** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:53 pm

As big as that guy looks in all the pics... I'm amazed he fits into the same sized box! The mini Steelcore & Defender are cute, but unnecessary. Carrier-mode's still just a tease eh?

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:56 pm

Friggin awesome! I can't wait to pre-order this guy.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:02 pm

The next 4-5 months are going to get really expensive. All these great MP and 3P figures coming out and finally getting into our new house. Maybe it's time to put my organs on Craigslist.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:04 pm

Still on th fence with this guy. As cool as he is .... it's going to be an $100+ Broadisde. I don't have any attachment to Broadisde! That's $100+ for a guy I have no feelings towards.

And yet he's pretty damn awsome.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:08 pm

Packaging is gorgeous.

by **Mekatron** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:15 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't have any attachment to Broadisde! That's $100+ for a guy I have no feelings towards.

Bah... doesn't really matter does it, just a kick-ass bot. No one had previous attachment to Steelcore... but I for one, am quite attached to it now! I also don't know where you're getting the $100+ from... pretty sure I heard he'll be around $80 before shipping, but I can't quote anything official on that. We'll know soon enough.

Blurrz wrote:Packaging is gorgeous.

Yeah, I like how they're keeping everything very uniform... boxes will look nice on the shelf too. :p

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:37 pm

Mekatron wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't have any attachment to Broadisde! That's $100+ for a guy I have no feelings towards.

Bah... doesn't really matter does it, just a kick-ass bot. No one had previous attachment to Steelcore... but I for one, am quite attached to it now! I also don't know where you're getting the $100+ from... pretty sure I heard he'll be around $80 before shipping, but I can't quote anything official on that. We'll know soon enough.

Well, it matters to me and my budget.

I'd getting $100+ from looking at the prototype at TFcon. It's a large, weighty figure and far larger than Defender. But if it's $80 ...

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:51 pm

Argh! The blue and yellow lines have been retained! Dammit!

He's so hench he looks like the box can barely contain him.

If the FPC exclusive free bonus is the miniature Defender and SteelCore vehicles then I think I can make-do without. I know the shelf price for Assaulter will be cheaper on FPC, but the flat-rate shipping and waiting a month for SteelCore to even ship really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm going to play it safe and go through one of Seibertron's sponsors.

by **Mekatron** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:02 pm

Sodan-1 wrote:Argh! The blue and yellow lines have been retained! Dammit!

He's so hench he looks like the box can barely contain him.

If the FPC exclusive free bonus is the miniature Defender and SteelCore vehicles then I think I can make-do without. I know the shelf price for Assaulter will be cheaper on FPC, but the flat-rate shipping and waiting a month for SteelCore to even ship really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm going to play it safe and go through one of Seibertron's sponsors.

Waiting for the retail release would make me uneasy too... I mean, how long has it been and there aren't even preorders up for the retail release of Steelcore? My only disappointment with the Steelcore preorder was only ordering 1. Had I bought 2 & eBayed one I could be owning the figure for free right now.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:35 pm

Anyone else getting a SDF-1 vibe from Assaulters carrier mode?

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:38 pm

Mekatron wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:Argh! The blue and yellow lines have been retained! Dammit!

He's so hench he looks like the box can barely contain him.

If the FPC exclusive free bonus is the miniature Defender and SteelCore vehicles then I think I can make-do without. I know the shelf price for Assaulter will be cheaper on FPC, but the flat-rate shipping and waiting a month for SteelCore to even ship really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm going to play it safe and go through one of Seibertron's sponsors.

Waiting for the retail release would make me uneasy too... I mean, how long has it been and there aren't even preorders up for the retail release of Steelcore? My only disappointment with the Steelcore preorder was only ordering 1. Had I bought 2 & eBayed one I could be owning the figure for free right now.

I feel you on that, I couldn't believe he was going for over twice the price.
There was a few that sold for 245$!
There's no way I'd sell Steelcore though, I feel he is possibly the greates Transforming figure to be released in a long time. Just nicely executed.
It's got me gunning for Assaulter.

Plus the boxes match! How awesome is that!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:45 pm

I haven't heard of a regular release for Steelcore. I heard he'd be released again, but I thought that would be at FP Core.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:18 am

Remember these mockups?

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:58 am

daimchoc wrote:Remember these mockups?

Nope, but that second one just makes me not want those leg stripes even more. I'm sorry to bang on about them but they really bug me.

Mekatron wrote:Waiting for the retail release would make me uneasy too... I mean, how long has it been and there aren't even preorders up for the retail release of Steelcore? My only disappointment with the Steelcore preorder was only ordering 1. Had I bought 2 & eBayed one I could be owning the figure for free right now.

The closest thing to an official word is that there is no retail release for SteelCore.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:37 am

Sodan-1 wrote:
daimchoc wrote:Remember these mockups?

Nope, but that second one just makes me not want those leg stripes even more. I'm sorry to bang on about them but they really bug me.

Mekatron wrote:Waiting for the retail release would make me uneasy too... I mean, how long has it been and there aren't even preorders up for the retail release of Steelcore? My only disappointment with the Steelcore preorder was only ordering 1. Had I bought 2 & eBayed one I could be owning the figure for free right now.

The closest thing to an official word is that there is no retail release for SteelCore.

I'm pretty sure the original word was Steelcore only through FPC.
Higher price repaint would go to retailers.

Even still, a1000 eBay flippers just got a stiffy.

by **MGrotusque** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:16 pm

The Assaulter paint job i would like to see out of the two pics posted above is a mix of both. The legs with the stripping of the top pic and the darker toned upper body of the second one with the blueish purple in the shoulders and elbows along with the bright blue on the guns.

He has an extremely subtle painted job and muted tones. ANY contrast and "pop" is appreciated in my opinion.