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Optimutt wrote:We're talking 80's? Then I've got one who's never had a toy, let alone an update.

Take a look at Scourge's mode of sexiness and I ask you who you think this could work as? Autobot? Bounty Hunter?

Devcon!
http://images.wikia.com/transformers/im ... Body01.jpg

That was gonna be one of my guesses. But Devcon is not a character from the distant past. He was a bounty hunter during the second or third season. Distant past may refer to episodes like War Dawn and Forever Is A Long Time Coming.

Sodan-1 wrote: Without knowing how many figures are going to be in the set it's still too early to say who this is or is not. The hints say that "three of the characters are getting their first updates ever". Now if there's more than three figures in the set then it's entirely possible this could be an Ultra Magnus as nothing has said that this is one of the three.

It's not Ultra Magnus. He's received an updated character already. And, if I'm not mistaken, there has always been five figures in the main set plus a few other exclusives like a souvenir figure.

Blackstreak wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote: Without knowing how many figures are going to be in the set it's still too early to say who this is or is not. The hints say that "three of the characters are getting their first updates ever". Now if there's more than three figures in the set then it's entirely possible this could be an Ultra Magnus as nothing has said that this is one of the three.

It's not Ultra Magnus. He's received an updated character already. And, if I'm not mistaken, there has always been five figures in the main set plus a few other exclusives like a souvenir figure.

OK then. If there's always been five figures in the sets, and the hint says that THREE characters will be getting their first update ever, then that leaves two figures, one of which MIGHT be an Ultra Magnus repaint of RTS G2 Prime. I'm just saying that it's possible as we still don't know enough. This is what I said in my first post. Do you understand that?

Black Repaint of Optimus Prime. Any other mold and its Nemisis Prime, WIth this mold its SCOURGE. Bout damn time. Fansproject, Repaint that trailer

Blackstreak wrote:And, if I'm not mistaken, there has always been five figures in the main set plus a few other exclusives like a souvenir figure.

Since 2005, that is.

But they still haven't announced the location!?

GuyIncognito wrote:But they still haven't announced the location!?

Your current avatar is too appropriate for this statement.

El Duque wrote:FunPub's recently released Transformers Timelines Issue 6: The StuntiCon Job comic

It came out?! When?!

Darth Bombshell wrote:

El Duque wrote:FunPub's recently released Transformers Timelines Issue 6: The StuntiCon Job comic

It came out?! When?!

I just checked the club store. It says it's still on pre-order.

Darth Bombshell wrote:

El Duque wrote:FunPub's recently released Transformers Timelines Issue 6: The StuntiCon Job comic

It came out?! When?!

Sorry, I should have worded that differently. Apparently some TFCC member who've had it on pre-order have already received their copy.

GuyIncognito wrote:But they still haven't announced the location!?

I don't get how they can be advertising for a convention already, when there is no date or location set? This is a bit ridiculous. I just want to know if I can actually include this convention into my con list for 2012...

I remember it being stated that Botcon 2012 would be G1-themed. So im betting on Orion Pax, as unlikely as it would be

BTW, anyone knows how much is the Iacon package for botcon as a TFCC member? There should be as discount right? Can't attend the con since im in Asia, but perhaps i can get an iacon pack.

UltraPrimal wrote:"An enemy thought defeated"
Only thing that comes to my mind is Unicron. But how could they do a Unicron toy as a BotCon exclusive, unless they repaint the Cybertron deluxe mold. Maybe in Energon black colors to match Scourge. Or of course they resurrect the BWNeo mold.

Megatron perhaps? Seems kinda trivial when you look at the bigger threats in the Decepticon community. Remember, the autobots have been trying to stop the decepticons for over 29 years, and haven't succeeded, (except in energon, which was bullcrap). So the threat doesn't have to be unicron...

Maybe a All hail Prime version of All hail Megatron?

Windsweeper wrote:If it were the alternate head from Generation's G2 Prime's instructions, I'd love it to be Powertrain or Ironworks, neither of which have been updated before.

In fact, going by the MTMTE profile or tech specs, Iron Works runs the Long Range Communications Bay. Perhaps he picks up a signal from the 'legend' mentioned and it turns out to be Countdown who's called a legend in his various profiles. It would be nice except for the mention of not previously updated toys excludes Countdown.

If it were Micromaster themed, Windcharger repainted as Black Jack would be nice.

Damn, if it's Micromaster themed, that would be bad-ass .
But the head in this pic looks unchanged from the original RTS prime.

LadyBug wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:But they still haven't announced the location!?

I don't get how they can be advertising for a convention already, when there is no date or location set? This is a bit ridiculous. I just want to know if I can actually include this convention into my con list for 2012...

I think the whole intention is to get people excited about the convention, wet some appetites. If what they claim is true, the toy set is something collectors want, then this is getting built up into one of the biggest conventions. they want people to not want to miss it no matter how far they have to travel, and how much it'll cost.

DUUUUUUUUUDE! I TOTALLY, LIKE, JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING, MAN!

Er, *ahem*. Sorry, I was '90s Kid for Halloween.

Anyway. I just thought of an idea who fits the description of most of all of this.

"An enemy thought defeated" - he was defeated
If you're 80's fan... - he was in the 80s cartoon
"Three of the characters are getting their first updates ever" - he technically had a G1 toy, but no real update of his own.
"The set is not TFA" - he was in G1.
"The "MUST HAVE" figure is one of the characters getting their first update ever" - again, he's never had a true update of himself.

And he's an Optimus Prime lookalike like this image.

Drum roll, please...



The Optimus Prime clone from "A Prime Problem"!

Sabrblade wrote:DUUUUUUUUUDE! I TOTALLY, LIKE, JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING, MAN!

Er, *ahem*. Sorry, I was '90s Kid for Halloween.

Anyway. I just thought of an idea who fits the description of most of all of this.

"An enemy thought defeated" - he was defeated
If you're 80's fan... - he was in the 80s cartoon
"Three of the characters are getting their first updates ever" - he technically had a G1 toy, but no real update of his own.
"The set is not TFA" - he was in G1.
"The "MUST HAVE" figure is one of the characters getting their first update ever" - again, he's never had a true update of himself.

And he's an Optimus Prime lookalike like this image.

Drum roll, please...



The Optimus Prime clone from "A Prime Problem"!

What do you guys think about Blitzwing for the 80s must have? His only redo was for the animated series. There was no classic Blitzwing even though there was two Astrotrians. It would be a welcome addition to the ridiculuos amount of cars and seekers. Also there has not been a hasbro or takara reissue of Reflector it doesnt get more 80s then them. Dont forget about the insecticons either the famous three have never been redone by hasbro/takara.

An enemy thought defeated... Unicron?, Starscream?, Scourge/Nem Prime, Megs?
A power thought to be legend... Primus, Vector Sigma, Dark Energon
At Botcon 2012, Earth's survival rests
in the hands of just one robot... Ultramagnus, Sky Lynx, perhaps the redemption of Sentinel Prime, there was never a G1 Sentinel

I haven't seen/read anything so far to indicate that any of the Botcon toys are going to actually be G1 or even from the Transformers line at all, so I theorize that it will indeed be the Gobots this time around and that G2 Laser Prime is going to be recolored as Staks.

BTW, wasn't Cy-Kill defeated loooooong ago in the comics in the arena...by Megatron?

i was born in 1996 and only got into tfs during cybertron and the live action films. while i do have a good knowledge of past generations of tfs i honestly don't have a clue.(i am hoping for a spinister and/ or chrome dome. maybe even sixshot!)
And i am still super hyped for the figures!

The Lost Seeker wrote:What do you guys think about Blitzwing for the 80s must have? His only redo was for the animated series. There was no classic Blitzwing even though there was two Astrotrians. It would be a welcome addition to the ridiculuos amount of cars and seekers. Also there has not been a hasbro or takara reissue of Reflector it doesnt get more 80s then them. Dont forget about the insecticons either the famous three have never been redone by hasbro/takara.

Animated Blitzwing is considered by Hasbro to be an updated figure of the Blitzwing character. That's why there was a Classics Astrotrain and a Universe Tankor (Octane) but no such treatment for G1 Blitzwing.

The Lost Seeker wrote:there was never a G1 Sentinel

Toy-wise: True. In general: G1 created the Sentinel Prime character. Several versions of G1 Sentinel Prime include:

Marvel G1 comics:


G1 Cartoon (via a retcon):


Dreamwave G1 comics:


IDW G1 comics:

xyl360 wrote:I haven't seen/read anything so far to indicate that any of the Botcon toys are going to actually be G1 or even from the Transformers line at all, so I theorize that it will indeed be the Gobots this time around and that G2 Laser Prime is going to be recolored as Staks.

BTW, wasn't Cy-Kill defeated loooooong ago in the comics in the arena...by Megatron?

GoBots is a possibility, but at the same time, isn't that kinda the obvious route?

starwarrior1227 wrote:i was born in 1996 and only got into tfs during cybertron and the live action films. while i do have a good knowledge of past generations of tfs i honestly don't have a clue.(i am hoping for a spinister and/ or chrome dome. maybe even sixshot!)
And i am still super hyped for the figures!

Not sure how they would do a Sixshot, since they can only use existing figures and not many nowadays have six modes... unless he'd be Sixshot in name only.

The Lost Seeker wrote:What do you guys think about Blitzwing for the 80s must have? His only redo was for the animated series. There was no classic Blitzwing even though there was two Astrotrians. It would be a welcome addition to the ridiculuos amount of cars and seekers. Also there has not been a hasbro or takara reissue of Reflector it doesnt get more 80s then them. Dont forget about the insecticons either the famous three have never been redone by hasbro/takara.

I can't think of an existing mold that would make for an even mediocre Classics Blitzwing. He NEEDS his own new mold or don't bother...

Sabrblade wrote:GoBots is a possibility, but at the same time, isn't that kinda the obvious route?

Yep, which is exactly why I think that's what they're doing. They say this will be one of the most sought after sets ever, and a Gobots themed set has been requested for a long time now and all the pieces seem to fit as to what they've said so far (including what they haven't said, like that even though it's from the "80's", they never said G1. Gobots is indeed something all of us that grew up with TF's during G1/the 80's would be well aware of.

Surprised no one looked for comments on BotCon's Twitter.

The Faux Rage! BC Newsflash... We are doing RID Scourge for BotCon 2012...

is what a LOT of people are thinking based on the ad that is in the current issue of Transformers Timelines Issue 6.

However, it is still a BIT early to discuss the theme for 2012. That and location will be available as absolutely soon as we can announce.

All that said, whoever we are doing are characters Hasbro is NOT planning on doing. So, there is no need for any rage...

Back to toys. The character seen in the ad? He isn't even the "best"... Two others in the set rock even more!

xyl360 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:GoBots is a possibility, but at the same time, isn't that kinda the obvious route?

Yep, which is exactly why I think that's what they're doing. They say this will be one of the most sought after sets ever, and a Gobots themed set has been requested for a long time now and all the pieces seem to fit as to what they've said so far (including what they haven't said, like that even though it's from the "80's", they never said G1. Gobots is indeed something all of us that grew up with TF's during G1/the 80's would be well aware of.

This seems the most likely possibility to me. And "an enemy thought defeated"? That could very well be taken to refer to the gobots line in general; once a fierce competitor, now owned outright by Hasbro.

Whatever we see, I'm glad it will involve generations redecos!