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G1 Cartoon - "Cleaned up"

Postby E107_Theta » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:31 pm

The original G1 cartoon had more animation errors than I think I've ever seen in any other show. Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker constantly switched colors, dialog came out of the wrong person's mouth sometimes, and there were tons of other flubs, like a mountain sized-Ramjet and other things.

As a kid, when I saw Sideswipe in Megatron's base in "The Secret of Omega Supreme" I honestly thought he switched sides, and it didn't help that my friend told me there was an episode where he did this (I think he was thinking about Mirage in "Traitor", but he didn't really switch sides either). In reality, nothing but an animation mistake.

What would you think if there ever was a "Special Edition" of the G1 Cartoon that corrected the animation errors? With Photoshop these days, it wouldn't be that terribly difficult.

Would the show be improved, or would it lose something important?
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:27 am

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Postby Leonardo » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:27 am

I think the cartoon would lose some of its charm and intrigue. Spotting these errors is a fun game, if one happens to be lonely.

That said, a cleaned-up version would make a great bonus feature or alternative track on DVD's, but then the cost wouldn't be warranted if it was just a bonus.

Plus, some errors can't be fixed, such as Sideswipe in Megaton's base. Certainly, they could recolour him into a generic Decepticon, but to my mind that would be just as problematic as having the random Seekers (such as Sunstorm) or a miscoloured character.
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Postby Brakethrough » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:24 am

What I'd like to see, really, is G1's best stories (read: the ones that aren't ridiculous) redone by a top-end 3D company. Even better would be if the show involved Classics versions of the characters.
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Postby Uncrazzimatic » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:42 am

Brakethrough wrote:What I'd like to see, really, is G1's best stories (read: the ones that aren't ridiculous) redone by a top-end 3D company. Even better would be if the show involved Classics versions of the characters.


You mean using the original sound track, but with new animation? could be interesting.
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Postby Stormwolf » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:45 am

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Brakethrough wrote:What I'd like to see, really, is G1's best stories (read: the ones that aren't ridiculous)


But that would only leave Dark awakening :roll:
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Postby Brakethrough » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:13 pm

Stormwolf wrote:
Brakethrough wrote:What I'd like to see, really, is G1's best stories (read: the ones that aren't ridiculous)


But that would only leave Dark awakening :roll:


Well, by ridiculous I mostly meant the ones which are built around something undeniably odd. Kremzeek, I'm looking at you.
Actually, there'd likely have to be a great deal of re-scripting anyway. It would be neat to see More than Meets the Eye and The Ultimate Doom done up all purdy like, though.
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Postby Swerve » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:16 pm

I actually like the mistakes, every cartoon from that era had mistakes and they are just a part of the show.
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Postby doomboy536 » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:28 pm

Take away the amusing errors and the cartoon loses part of its charm. I love my error-ridden G1 DVDs and no-one can say otherwise! :-x :P
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Postby Loki120 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:47 am

Brakethrough wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Brakethrough wrote:What I'd like to see, really, is G1's best stories (read: the ones that aren't ridiculous)


But that would only leave Dark awakening :roll:


Well, by ridiculous I mostly meant the ones which are built around something undeniably odd. Kremzeek, I'm looking at you.
Actually, there'd likely have to be a great deal of re-scripting anyway. It would be neat to see More than Meets the Eye and The Ultimate Doom done up all purdy like, though.


Yeah, but keep in mind, even high-end cgi shows like Beast Wars had their episodes like the "The Low Road".
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Re: G1 Cartoon - "Cleaned up"

Postby Dagon » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:43 am

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E107_Theta wrote:As a kid, when I saw Sideswipe in Megatron's base in "The Secret of Omega Supreme" I honestly thought he switched sides, and it didn't help that my friend told me there was an episode where he did this (I think he was thinking about Mirage in "Traitor", but he didn't really switch sides either). In reality, nothing but an animation mistake.




That one always confused me too. I thought I had missed something for years.

By the way, what the hell is a Kreemzek?
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Postby g1optimusprime » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:25 pm

its an electronic demon that megatron used to keep the autobots occupied while he got ready another weapon
its a second season episode btw
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Postby Uncrazzimatic » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:26 am

Brakethrough wrote:Well, by ridiculous I mostly meant the ones which are built around something undeniably odd. Kremzeek,


Yet somehow this didn't stop him getting a show acurate toy before Alpha Trion, Arcee, Elita 1, the other fembots, Devcon, the aligatorcons, and all 4 types of Quintesson... somehow. Sometimes there is no justice :(

(No, those Chinese Quintesson bulb things don't count, they're not official)
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Postby Leonardo » Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:49 am

Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Brakethrough wrote:Well, by ridiculous I mostly meant the ones which are built around something undeniably odd. Kremzeek,


Yet somehow this didn't stop him getting a show acurate toy before Alpha Trion, Arcee, Elita 1, the other fembots, Devcon, the aligatorcons, and all 4 types of Quintesson... somehow. Sometimes there is no justice :(

(No, those Chinese Quintesson bulb things don't count, they're not official)


Who're the aligatorcons?
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Postby g1optimusprime » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:40 am

they were seen on quintessa when they captured hot rod and kup
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Postby Leonardo » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:55 am

O, those things. I was hoping for something more exciting!
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:28 pm

Given the abundance of fans who enjoy recoloring artwork, I'm still surprised no one has at least gone through and fixed the first episode or two at least.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:56 pm

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Caelus wrote:Given the abundance of fans who enjoy recoloring artwork, I'm still surprised no one has at least gone through and fixed the first episode or two at least.


A person would have to be really freaking dedicated and have a lot of time on their hands to do that.

That'd take forever!

I wouldn't even know how to convert the video into a form I could recolor it
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Postby Sheba » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:06 pm

Leonardo wrote:I think the cartoon would lose some of its charm and intrigue. Spotting these errors is a fun game, if one happens to be lonely.

That said, a cleaned-up version would make a great bonus feature or alternative track on DVD's, but then the cost wouldn't be warranted if it was just a bonus.

Plus, some errors can't be fixed, such as Sideswipe in Megaton's base. Certainly, they could recolour him into a generic Decepticon, but to my mind that would be just as problematic as having the random Seekers (such as Sunstorm) or a miscoloured character.


sure it can. Sideswipe was done up as "Breakdown" in "Masquerade"--EASY fix.

(of course, that might cause more problems than it solves, but eh, at least it's an option ;) )
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:22 am

Sheba wrote:
Leonardo wrote:I think the cartoon would lose some of its charm and intrigue. Spotting these errors is a fun game, if one happens to be lonely.

That said, a cleaned-up version would make a great bonus feature or alternative track on DVD's, but then the cost wouldn't be warranted if it was just a bonus.

Plus, some errors can't be fixed, such as Sideswipe in Megaton's base. Certainly, they could recolour him into a generic Decepticon, but to my mind that would be just as problematic as having the random Seekers (such as Sunstorm) or a miscoloured character.


sure it can. Sideswipe was done up as "Breakdown" in "Masquerade"--EASY fix.

(of course, that might cause more problems than it solves, but eh, at least it's an option ;) )


I didn't know about that. :-?
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Postby Screambug » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:39 am

I may be the only one, but that would be a beautiful thought!^_^
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Postby Brakethrough » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:43 am

If the cel art could be loaded into a program like Flash, recolouring would be a breeze thanks to the ability to edit multiple frames.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:19 pm

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what if it were cleaned up properly and then re-aired, instead of having even more continuities being made!?
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Postby Ericus Prime » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:53 pm

ThunderThruster wrote:what if it were cleaned up properly and then re-aired, instead of having even more continuities being made!?


I'd go for that, just to see G1 back on TV.
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Re: G1 Cartoon - "Cleaned up"

Postby Geoff123 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:09 pm

Do you know if the re-release removed the annoying, added sound effects from the soundtrack that Rhino put in?
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