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by **JBrock** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:49 am

FYI,

Good news is I have seen pics for the new KO G1 Mirage reissue similar to the Swoop. The bad news is the retail price which is around 150.00.

I also mentioned that Devastator is on its way and I have seen a picture of the six heads reproduced.

Expect it to hit the market in late May or early June.

News Credits: 2024 · by **Hotrod** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:20 pm

Front paged and credited.

by **wildfire405** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:23 pm

What is Knock Off? Is that a brand? and 150.00?? Aparently I'm missing something. Could someone fill a brother in?

by **Dclone Soundwave** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:30 pm

A Knock Off (Or KO for short) is a product made by another company other than the one who originally manufactured it. And I'm not surprised at Mirage's price, since his original mold is broken, he should sell fast. Maybe I'll get one, I'm still in need of a G1 Mirage................

News Credits: 3 · by **muswp1** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:35 pm

$150 for a KO??? I don't care if it's Mirage or not, that's too much.

News Credits: 8 · by **ZoneDaiatlas** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:37 pm

The Seibertronians and I will keep an eye out for these high quality KO's of Mirage and Constructicons over at the Transformers KO thread...

http://seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57&sid=

by **Roboto750** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:38 pm

I don't care if the original mold is broken or not, I'm not paying $150 for a slaggin' knock off! Heck, I could find a half decent loose *real* Mirage cheaper than that (yes, I have seen plenty)! As far as Devestator/the Constructicons go, this was a very dumb choice. I mean, how many Devestator and lone Constructicon knock offs do we need? I see at least one or two a month at Big Lots and various other places. Doesn't take much to buy one and paint it green and purple, if it's not already. It's hard to believe that this one will be any better when it comes to quality.

Sorry to rant here, but this just bugs me. :-x

News Credits: 8 · by **ZoneDaiatlas** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:41 pm

Roboto750 wrote:I don't care if the original mold is broken or not, I'm not paying $150 for a slaggin' knock off! Heck, I could find a half decent loose *real* Mirage cheaper than that (yes, I have seen plenty)! As far as Devestator/the Constructicons go, this was a very dumb choice. I mean, how many Devestator and lone Constructicon knock offs do we need? I see at least one or two a month at Big Lots and various other places. Doesn't take much to buy one and paint it green and purple, if it's not already. It's hard to believe that this one will be any better when it comes to quality.

Sorry to rant here, but this just bugs me.

I don't know about that, but people have paid $70 to $100 for the KO of Dinobot: Swoop on eBay. I paid $60 for the KO of Predacons: Predaking. I think it's a wait and see on the quality of the KO's...

by **Vile MK III** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:46 pm

O_O; $150 for a freaking KO!? As for Devestator...gezz, that proble the 6th KO I herd of. Tomy Takara should step in and stop these KO and release both of em them self. Now that would worth the money.

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:59 pm

I agree $150 for a knock off is insane.

I know the origional mold is broken. I also have Mirage and from what I can see, it looks good.

So my question, how about an "official" authentic, reconstruction?

No improvements('cept on the clip for the shoulder rocket), just take a old one and redo it.

That would be cool!

by **Ultra Markus** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:04 pm

i feel sorry for those people who blow over 20 dollars on fake immitations made of low quality plastic and no metal parts.

News Credits: 8 · by **ZoneDaiatlas** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:05 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:I agree $150 for a knock off is insane.

I know the origional mold is broken. I also have Mirage and from what I can see, it looks good.

So my question, how about an "official" authentic, reconstruction?

No improvements('cept on the clip for the shoulder rocket), just take a old one and redo it.

That would be cool!

Why can't they make a new mold? Is it too expensive for Takara Tomy to make a new mold? We bought enough Reissue and Repaint toys from Takara Tomy that they can send their kids to College...

by **Roboto750** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:14 pm

ZoneDaiatlas wrote:
Liege Evilmus wrote:I agree $150 for a knock off is insane.

I know the origional mold is broken. I also have Mirage and from what I can see, it looks good.

So my question, how about an "official" authentic, reconstruction?

No improvements('cept on the clip for the shoulder rocket), just take a old one and redo it.

That would be cool!

Why can't they make a new mold? Is it too expensive for Takara Tomy to make a new mold? We bought enough Reissue and Repaint toys from Takara Tomy that they can send their kids to College...

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing tonight! Half the work should be done for them already.

by **BOSSC351** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:20 pm

$150! Are they friggin nuts?!?!?! I got an original Diaclone with BOX for less than that and in perfect shape.

News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:29 pm

They either used the wrong currency symbol or forgot a decimal.

Like Prowl76 on Facebook · by **Prowl76** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:34 pm

I have a KO Devastator. But $150 for a KO Mirage. Completely ridiculous.

by **Springer** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:48 pm

If you're dumb enough to spend that kind of money on a rip-off, you'll get what you deserve.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:04 pm

$150!? thats way to much money. Even for mirage.

News Credits: 1 · by **ZenithF0RTE** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:20 pm

I didn't even think anyone BOUGHT knock offs. I always thought these threads about knock-offs on ebay were just to warn us they were knock offs and avoid them.

Anywho, I had no idea the Mirage mold was broken. When did this happen?

News Credits: 1 · by **Fang Wolf** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:21 pm

I'll go hug my Classics Mirage that set me back $27AUD. Yep.

by **Ultra Markus** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:49 pm

knock offs should only be used as spare parts or kit bashing.

News Credits: 1 · by **jgilkinson** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:54 pm

insane... btw whats a good store chain to find KO's. Ive hit Big Lots up and got the KO Leo Convoy but im still looking for Predaking, Abominus, and Menasor

News Credits: 3 · by **ShGarland_1383** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:54 pm

Fang Wolf wrote:I'll go hug my Classics Mirage that set me back $27AUD. Yep.

I didn't much like Classics Mirage when I first saw it, but now that I've bought it, I'm glad I did.

Ultra Markus wrote:knock offs should only be used as spare parts or kit bashing.

I agree.

News Credits: 20 · by **Chosen** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:56 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:i feel sorry for those people who blow over 20 dollars on fake immitations made of low quality plastic and no metal parts.

Swoop was more of a miss than a hit, but I've still yet to hear anything that significantly bad about the cassette KO reissues. It's not like these are the same thing as the nasty dollar-store nonsense that's all over the place.

And as for your other point, that's good and all, but then you get people who try to pass off knockoff parts or accessories as if they're the originals.

by **JBrock** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:01 pm

Keep in mind a few things...

The Mirage will be presented in G1 packaging and will be priced around 100.00 or cheaper as no one will sell it at MSRP.

The devastator will be sold as the giftset and carded from my understanding. The quality will be much closer to the original then the ones sold for 10-15.00.

I sold a graded Mirage for 800.00 and a set of the MOSC Constructicons for 550.00 so unless you have that kind of bankroll, these are the closest you'll get to having the originals in sealed packaging.