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So many Ebay sellers try to scalp the FOC G2 Bruticus set at over 90$ + outrageous shipping prices when it's still available on the BBTS at 60$ + reasonable shipping.


Edit: This was post #1111! Woohoo!

I got Shockwave and he's alright, and I'm getting G2 Bruticus (more for the novelty of a modern, 5-mold, kibble-free Scramble City combiner in wonderfully absurd G2 colors and packaging than anything else; my expectations for him are incredibly low), but other than that FoC just doesn't interest me. Granted I rarely buy Autobots or G1-inspired stuff, and Soundwave is totally out of scale with the other WfC/FoC stuff, but nothing is really up to the standards I like.

You guys forgot about the Insecticon. That thing looks awesome, and I can't wait to get it.

I've got SDCC Bruticus, retail Bruticus and all 3 of the released deluxes (Prime, Jazz and Shockwave) and I'm pretty happy with all of them. In fact, I liked retail Vortex so much that I bought an extra just to stand him in bot mode.

For the upcoming ones, I'm getting all of the deluxes (both Hasbro's and Takara's), including Takara's versions of the Combaticons and for the voyager Soundwave and Soundblaster, I'm getting Takara's and skipping Hasbro's.

I'm not sure which Grimlock I'll be getting yet or if I'll get both, I need to see the final paint schemes/details first.

I'm also getting Takara's AM Shockwave.

Jazz is wonderful as long as he's displayed in vehicle mode, I expect the same or better from Sideswipe.

I like 'em. Granted that I don't own anyhing beyond Optimus, Jazz and Shockwave. Shockwave actually rocks my socks.

I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

It's not what, but who: Reveal the Shield Special Ops Jazz. He's a real beefcake.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

I don't actually hate him at all, but I don't really like his bot mode, but that's only because of the size of his torso/chest, not because of the hole. It just looks weird and disproportionate to me. If it were smaller, I'd like it much better (the chest, not the entire figure, the figure is plenty small ).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

It's not what, but who: Reveal the Shield Special Ops Jazz. He's a real beefcake.

SPO Jazz IS a badass. From that bodyguard expression to those over the shoulder speakers... No competition.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

Besides him being RTS Jazz's poorer Cybertronian cousin, FOC Jazz is also a victim of a horrible lack of paint apps. He's covered in detail, but the bright white plastic obscures it all. He looks worlds better after being given a panel-line wash, some drybrushing on his inner engine workings, and paint apps for his tail lights and energon lines.

Sizewise, and although this was never Hasbro's intention, he scales well with the larger WFC figs (except Arnold Schwarzenbee, of course) because he's supposed to be a medium to smallish character.

As for my thoughts on the FOC line, it's a mixed bag.

My okay list for FOC is: Starscream (naturally), Shockwave, Jazz, Grimlock, Soundwave and Kickback.

Meh list: OP, FnR, Air Raid/Fireflight, UM.

Sh!tlist: Combaticon set, Ravage.

headsortails wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for Bruticus, I'm kinda disapointed. Sure, you buy him for his awesome combined mode, but...

...what you get is a POS.

"POS"?

I think he's saying pile (or piece) of sssshhhhh........

I too only got shockwave because there wasn't one in my collection. I'm getting G2 Bruticus only because I love the color and packaging. The only other ones I'll be getting is Starscream (sucker for the seekers), Ultra Magnus (only for that 3rd party kit I saw to add on to him), and maybe Grimlock if I like seeing it in person.

Grimlock is gonna be terrible. i have a feeling....

AdamFett wrote:Grimlock is gonna be terrible. i have a feeling....

A bad feeling about this?

No way. Grimlock is going to be sweet!!!

I have a opinion about the small sizes....yeah it is probably a cost thing. But I think it is also to separate it from regular classics. Hasbro doesn't want you to throw a FOC Shockwave into your classics lineup...they want you to buy the proper larger classics G1 Shockwave a couple years down the road. They want to keep you wanting more! And as a result you buy both.

...that is also why I feel we haven't gotten certain characters/toys yet, like a proper widespread release of a g1 classics Soundwave...to keep you wanting more and keep you interested.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

It's not what, but who: Reveal the Shield Special Ops Jazz. He's a real beefcake.

So it's about what the toy isn't?

RhA wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think all the hate over FOC Jazz is uncalled for. His vehicle mode is great looking his transformation is fun to do and he even have RATCHET JOINTS! Unless you are looking at him from above, his robot mode is great looking too.

So, what's the real beef?

It's not what, but who: Reveal the Shield Special Ops Jazz. He's a real beefcake.

So it's about what the toy isn't?

Exactly.

My only significant probllem with FoC Jazz is his legs. They are too short for the rest of the figure, giving him a lot goofier proportions than, well, Special Ops Jazz.

SpecOps Jazz is pretty much the Gold standard for deluxe Transformers.....a heck of a lot of Classics look "disappointing" when compared to Him (Hound anyone?) so it's not that much of a surprise that a fill-in line like this doesn't measure up either. I dont hate FOC Jazz, and there are way worse TF's to get steamed up about, but once a character has been dead-on nailed like Jazz was for RTS it can be hard to accept way less 2 years down the line.

I'm looking forward to FOC Magnus....I think he's going to be fun, if totally and utterly useless for scale on anything other than Robot-masters and I'm hoping that Grimlock IS as promising as he looks.....and not another fizzle when in hand. That's it though.

Thank the Maker there are MP's to look forward to..........FOC is pretty thin gruel.

I have Shockwave. I like him a lot.

I preordered Soundwave and Ultra Magnus.

I will be buying all of Soundwave's minions and Kickback. Grimlock is a maybe until I see more pictures.

I own Shockwave, Prime and Jazz. Shockwave is good, no real flaws. He's on my Classics shelves.

Prime is all right, nothing outstanding but nothing bad. He and Jazz are on my FOC/Prime shelves.

Jazz is... disappointing. Small, hollow, plain, lacking articulation that RTS Jazz had, a tiny pea-shooter of a gun. Disproportionate too.

I'm waiting on the Wrecker remolds. They'll go on my Classics shelves.

Hey, I think classics Hound is awesome! The only problem is with his shoulder mounted weapon, and there are ways to sorta deal with that. I also added a tiny bit of super glue to stiften his crotch plate, and now it just folds up and stays there. Ya ya, sexual innuendo.

These are some of the classics that are pretty damn perfect to me, and perhaps what I rate against (in no order):

Classics prime
RTS Jazz
Sargeant Kup
Wreck-Gar
Sunstreaker/Sideswipe
Warpath
Blurr/Drift
RTS Perceptor
Wheeljack
Straxus
Cyclonus
Scourge
Terradive
Lugnut

All these figures are perfect to me. I would have added Thunderwing, but since he is smaller than the Character, I left him out.
FOC Magnus is going to be awesome once the add on kit arrives for him, I know it. So that'll fix the size issue, and you will have a bulky UM that isn't round (prme) or TOO bulky (city commander)

I had an orgasm when I saw a demonstration of Soundwave ejecting his minions from his chest and to see them auto-transform when they fly out.

I'm so getting FOC Soundwave and his minions!

MINDVVIPE wrote:You guys forgot about the Insecticon.

Kickback.

PrymeStriker wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:You guys forgot about the Insecticon.

Kickback.

Ya ya, I know his name. It just makes more impact to speak of him as "the insecticon", instead of by name. YEEE KNNNOOOWWWWW??

MINDVVIPE wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:You guys forgot about the Insecticon.

Kickback.

Ya ya, I know his name. It just makes more impact to speak of him as "the insecticon", instead of by name. YEEE KNNNOOOWWWWW??

Nope.

Valandar wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:You guys forgot about the Insecticon.

Kickback.

Ya ya, I know his name. It just makes more impact to speak of him as "the insecticon", instead of by name. YEEE KNNNOOOWWWWW??

Nope.

K.









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