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News Credits: 1 · by **Autobot_Benz** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:34 pm

Hey Amazon how about you get Springer and Blitzwing on your site. I want the Amazon price for them instead of the scalpers on Amazon charging over 40 bucks for him.

Springer is taking way to long to comeout.

News Credits: 4 · by **KnightStrike** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:39 pm

Awesome! Now as long as they haven't sold out by payday I will be happy. I will probably grab something else with the same order to go over $25 and qualify for the free super saver shipping. It will be nice to finally find something easily soon after retail release instead of hunting all over.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:41 pm

Ordered with Prime shipping. Friday will be a good day!

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:07 pm

Autobot Joe wrote:No way am I paying almost $17 for a legends class figure w/ shipping. I will wait for retail...

The trick with Amazon is having Amazon Prime. Free 2 day shipping makes these $11.99 a piece shipped. Not bad!

News Credits: 1 · by **Doc bot** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:12 pm

I find it odd that Amazon's Transformer prices tend to be high (and I'm not counting those 'fulfilled by Amazon' items.) I have a feeling that these will be 9.99 to 10.99 at the big box stores. Still worth it since I won't have to pay sales tax and gas, along with having Amazon Prime.

I wouldn't worry about the price gouging going on with Springer and Blitzwing. The way we're getting carpet bombed with them here in Michigan, I'm sure they'll be seeing mass release. (We're never that lucky here in the Wolverine state.)

by **Alex Jones** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:15 pm

Meh, I'll wait till they come to retail. This whole internet sales tax pushed by Amazon made me cancel my amazon prime account.

News Credits: 1 · by **Autobot_Benz** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:22 pm

Amazon didn't cause this sales tax to happen it was different states to help small buisness

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Wed May 01, 2013 6:08 am

$11.99 no thanks, ill just wait until theres a buy one get one 50%off or some other retail sale. In the meantime ill go and spend my money elsewhere.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed May 01, 2013 7:40 am

Alex Jones wrote:Meh, I'll wait till they come to retail. This whole internet sales tax pushed by Amazon made me cancel my amazon prime account.

Wow, your avatar is a perfect response to your own comment.

News Credits: 26 · by **reluctantyouth** » Wed May 01, 2013 12:17 pm

I do not know how I missed out on this post. I just popped over to Amazon for Prime and Bumblebee, but they also have the next Deluve Wave of Beast Hunters and I also picked up Skystalker for the free shipping. I know the prices are a little higher but do not have to worry about shipping or sales tax here in Illinois yet. The bonus is that I have an Amazon credit card that pays triple points on Amazon purchases. I bought a Mac Book Pro a month and a half ago (paid off sum immediately for the points)...that gave me enough points to pick up all 3 of these figures for $3.07 shipped

. I'll take it!! :grin:

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed May 01, 2013 12:35 pm

reluctantyouth wrote:I do not know how I missed out on this post. I just popped over to Amazon for Prime and Bumblebee, but they also have the next Deluve Wave of Beast Hunters and I also picked up Skystalker for the free shipping. I know the prices are a little higher but do not have to worry about shipping or sales tax here in Illinois yet. The bonus is that I have an Amazon credit card that pays triple points on Amazon purchases. I bought a Mac Book Pro a month and a half ago (paid off sum immediately for the points)...that gave me enough points to pick up all 3 of these figures for $3.07 shipped . I'll take it!!

I tell ya, if you're willing to look and hustle there are some great deals out there. Ebates gives you cash back on Amazon now in the toy section, add in the cash back from pay pal and that covers the tax right there. I had a $5 Amazon gift card laying around from Swagbucks and I paid under $10 each.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed May 01, 2013 12:43 pm

And if you have an Amazon VISA card like me, you earn rewards points. I ordered Takara "Cyrus" Breakdown from a third-party vendor on Amazon and used my accumulated points to pay for it. (It was only $39.99 plus shipping!)

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Wed May 01, 2013 1:21 pm

reluctantyouth wrote:I do not know how I missed out on this post. I just popped over to Amazon for Prime and Bumblebee, but they also have the next Deluve Wave of Beast Hunters and I also picked up Skystalker for the free shipping. I know the prices are a little higher but do not have to worry about shipping or sales tax here in Illinois yet. The bonus is that I have an Amazon credit card that pays triple points on Amazon purchases. I bought a Mac Book Pro a month and a half ago (paid off sum immediately for the points)...that gave me enough points to pick up all 3 of these figures for $3.07 shipped . I'll take it!!

You are awesome. Thank you for letting us know. I just ordered a set for myself. We'll get this into the news cycle shortly and provide you with credit.

News Credits: 26 · by **reluctantyouth** » Wed May 01, 2013 1:51 pm

Seibertron wrote:
reluctantyouth wrote:I do not know how I missed out on this post. I just popped over to Amazon for Prime and Bumblebee, but they also have the next Deluve Wave of Beast Hunters and I also picked up Skystalker for the free shipping. I know the prices are a little higher but do not have to worry about shipping or sales tax here in Illinois yet. The bonus is that I have an Amazon credit card that pays triple points on Amazon purchases. I bought a Mac Book Pro a month and a half ago (paid off sum immediately for the points)...that gave me enough points to pick up all 3 of these figures for $3.07 shipped . I'll take it!!

You are awesome. Thank you for letting us know. I just ordered a set for myself. We'll get this into the news cycle shortly and provide you with credit.

No...you are awesome!! :BOWDOWN:

Thanks for the credit and glad I could help.

by **Alex Jones** » Wed May 01, 2013 1:52 pm

Autobot_Benz wrote:Amazon didn't cause this sales tax to happen it was different states to help small buisness

http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/5893 ... ext-amazon

Grant Bosse: Internet sales tax protects Amazon from the next Amazon

Some of those businesses are eager to face those higher costs. Online giant Amazon.com is pushing for the internet sales tax. It can track state and local tax codes and automatically charge the current tax rate based on the delivery ZIP code. But smaller companies looking to challenge Amazon’s hegemony would have a hard time complying. Higher taxes and complicated bureaucracy isn’t a threat to Amazon, but it might keep the next threat to Amazon from starting up.

At National Review, Kevin Williamson writes about the distinction between being for big business and being for free enterprise. Big business loves big government. It’s smaller, nimbler businesses they fear. Forcing a cumbersome sales tax bureaucracy on their would-be rivals puts them at a huge competitive advantage.

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed May 01, 2013 2:19 pm

Alex Jones wrote:
Autobot_Benz wrote:Amazon didn't cause this sales tax to happen it was different states to help small buisness

http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/5893 ... ext-amazon

Grant Bosse: Internet sales tax protects Amazon from the next Amazon

Some of those businesses are eager to face those higher costs. Online giant Amazon.com is pushing for the internet sales tax. It can track state and local tax codes and automatically charge the current tax rate based on the delivery ZIP code. But smaller companies looking to challenge Amazon’s hegemony would have a hard time complying. Higher taxes and complicated bureaucracy isn’t a threat to Amazon, but it might keep the next threat to Amazon from starting up.

At National Review, Kevin Williamson writes about the distinction between being for big business and being for free enterprise. Big business loves big government. It’s smaller, nimbler businesses they fear. Forcing a cumbersome sales tax bureaucracy on their would-be rivals puts them at a huge competitive advantage.

I know in Pennsylvania at least, before amazon started to, you were supposed to keep track of your own online transactions and pay the appropriate taxes. So I still don't see how amazon can be blamed for anything.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed May 01, 2013 2:23 pm

Alex, you do realize that they only plan to charge you the same sales tax you would pay at retail in your state (and which you are legally required to pay)? So how is it better to "wait until retail"? It'll take longer, you'll pay the same price, and you run the risk of not being able to find what you want. Or you can order now, pay the same price, and not worry about finding it later. It sounds like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You're blaming Amazon for not letting you get away with avoiding sales tax, and then saying you'd rather go to a store and pay the sales tax you're upset about Amazon charging. 8-}

by **Alex Jones** » Wed May 01, 2013 2:38 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:Alex, you do realize that they only plan to charge you the same sales tax you would pay at retail in your state (and which you are legally required to pay)? So how is it better to "wait until retail"? It'll take longer, you'll pay the same price, and you run the risk of not being able to find what you want. Or you can order now, pay the same price, and not worry about finding it later. It sounds like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

You're blaming Amazon for not letting you get away with avoiding sales tax, and then saying you'd rather go to a store and pay the sales tax you're upset about Amazon charging.

I don't know anyone that wants to pay additional (sales tax) on top of a purchase plus shipping. I am just being a resourceful consumer and looking at better options than Amazon for my purchases, like eBay where private sellers can sell me an item at less than what Amazon is offering. My main draw for going to Amazon in the past was no tax and sometimes free shipping. With that gone I am looking at other options to save money even if takes me longer to get a certain item. Currently, my purchase for TF come from eBay where I can get really great deals, and for the time being no tax.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed May 01, 2013 2:49 pm

Alex Jones wrote:I don't know anyone that wants to pay additional (sales tax) on top of a purchase plus shipping.

Millions of people do it every day. We pay for the convenience and the certainty of getting what we want without having to use our time and gas driving to stores.

Plus, I never pay shipping at Amazon.

It sounds to me like you're acting emotionally, not rationally.

by **Alex Jones** » Wed May 01, 2013 2:54 pm

you're lucky you don't have to pay for shipping. I don't. However I am going to take my chances and purchase through another avenue. To each their own (for me save MONAY!).

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed May 01, 2013 3:02 pm

Don't you think you should be responsible and pay sales tax?

by **Alex Jones** » Wed May 01, 2013 5:34 pm

Nope. Should the poor be responsible and pay sales tax too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9_6Ct1Bn8

by **RAcast** » Wed May 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Alex Jones wrote:Nope. Should the poor be responsible and pay sales tax too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9_6Ct1Bn8

Everybody pays taxes, it's how the world works. I'm not saying the government should be making unreasonable tax laws, but it's important that governmental structures have the money to run. As for the case at hand, it was really just a matter of time (see: politics catching up to how the world works takes a LONG time). Having to pay sales tax is normal for everything, it just took them awhile to catch up with the internet, I suppose.

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Wed May 01, 2013 6:45 pm

Alex Jones wrote:Nope. Should the poor be responsible and pay sales tax too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9_6Ct1Bn8

That's a question not easily answered. Let's leave aside anyone else and just focus on ourselves as individuals. Don't you think it's a good idea to be as good a citizen as you can?

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Wed May 01, 2013 7:22 pm

njb902 wrote:
Alex Jones wrote:Nope. Should the poor be responsible and pay sales tax too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj9_6Ct1Bn8

That's a question not easily answered. Let's leave aside anyone else and just focus on ourselves as individuals. Don't you think it's a good idea to be as good a citizen as you can?

I think those of you debating about paying taxes are missing the point. It's not really about paying taxes or not paying taxes, it's just about getting the best deal for you personally. I'm an Amazon Prime subscriber so I get free shipping. Getting these now means I don't have to hunt for them or pay additional shipping through other online retailers so $16.99 isn't that bad. For those of you who are looking for a cheaper price that's fine also.