Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
shajaki wrote:paul053 wrote:I have no confidence at FP's product that much now.
why is that? not trying to spark a debate (im not a FP fanboy or anything). but ive found them to have some great products. and they only really suffer from what almost all 3rd party figures suffer from: theyre not playthings. if that makes any sense... in my opinion pretty much all 3rd party figures have the same sort of "fragility" and dont have the same durability as a has/tak product. but they usually have intuitive designs and are amazing display pieces.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
shajaki wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Roadbuster isn't important enough to me to warrant shelling out the 90 bucks for Revolver. Sorry, FP.
i dont have any real connection to roadbuster either. never owned the G1 toy, or watched/read about him in any fiction. i think i simply stumbled upon him on one of my jaunts through the tfu alpha index and was like "now that guy looks bad ass!". i just really liked the look of him and since then kept my eye out for new versions. and i recently decided specifically what my TF collection would entail, and he's part of it. like i already said, whatever the best representation of any given character exists, will end up on my shelf.paul053 wrote:I have no confidence at FP's product that much now.
why is that? not trying to spark a debate (im not a FP fanboy or anything). but ive found them to have some great products. and they only really suffer from what almost all 3rd party figures suffer from: theyre not playthings. if that makes any sense... in my opinion pretty much all 3rd party figures have the same sort of "fragility" and dont have the same durability as a has/tak product. but they usually have intuitive designs and are amazing display pieces.
Counterpunch wrote:I'm sort of with paul053 here. FP's Motormaster is a mess. Overly complicated with numerous shaky joints that I have no confidence of. FansProject has definitely fallen a notch or two in my book.
Shadowstream wrote:Admittedly yes, most 3P stuff isn't nearly as durable as HasTak's, but FPs crap breaks just by looking at it funny. They might as well be relabeled as a knock off company.
Peter Bazooka wrote:Shadowstream wrote:Admittedly yes, most 3P stuff isn't nearly as durable as HasTak's, but FPs crap breaks just by looking at it funny. They might as well be relabeled as a knock off company.
KO company may be a little harsh but for all the raving FP gets online I've experienced more QC issues with their stuff than any other 3rd Party Product I've bought. Even the much maligned TFC Toys has given me less trouble.
FPs crap breaks just by looking at it funny
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
fenrir72 wrote:Everything man made eventually breaks. Same with 1st party to 3rd party. FP really has made a name for themselves but still being man made, its expected to have imperfections.
The engineering on Diesel itself is quite an effort given how constricted the base/original source material it came from.
Mykltron wrote:I agree with what you're saying.
Just don't take any notice of the hasbro colour scheme - they use hand painted figures for the official images. The release will not look like that.
and see, the treads and cost are the only negatives i have with revolver. but the aesthetics of generations RB just dont appeal to me, and i feel he wasnt executed properly. and hollow guns? that bites. but hey, that opinion could turn around if i ever got him in hand. i still think ill pass on hasbros, simply for the sticker issue.rpetras wrote:Just opened RB today, and I like him.
Many of the reasons mentioned, wheels on the arms, thin legs, pretty lightweight, are negatives to be sure, but the FP version has design elements I dislike too, like the treads.
I like applying stickers so, for me, that was a plus.
The configurable weapons are fun, but a couple of them are hollow on one side, so that kind of sucks, but still, it adds to the play value.
IMO this is just like Defender vs Generations Springer, I prefer the FP version, but the Hasbro version is just fine for the cost savings.
shajaki wrote:and see, the treads and cost are the only negatives i have with revolver. but the aesthetics of generations RB just dont appeal to me, and i feel he wasnt executed properly. and hollow guns? that bites. but hey, that opinion could turn around if i ever got him in hand. i still think ill pass on hasbros, simply for the sticker issue.rpetras wrote:Just opened RB today, and I like him.
Many of the reasons mentioned, wheels on the arms, thin legs, pretty lightweight, are negatives to be sure, but the FP version has design elements I dislike too, like the treads.
I like applying stickers so, for me, that was a plus.
The configurable weapons are fun, but a couple of them are hollow on one side, so that kind of sucks, but still, it adds to the play value.
IMO this is just like Defender vs Generations Springer, I prefer the FP version, but the Hasbro version is just fine for the cost savings.
very true, but those guns were at least hollow on both sides, thus being symmetrical. and the tank treads on revolver are a serious "WTF", but he wont be played with and only posed in bot mode. so i can live with it.fenrir72 wrote:Hollow guns have been a Hasbro staple since Hardhead and Powermaster Optimus Prime. Aside from the cost difference, the tank threads on Revolver are non functional............no wheels under them......wtf?
shajaki wrote:very true, but those guns were at least hollow on both sides, thus being symmetrical. and the tank treads on revolver are a serious "WTF", but he wont be played with and only posed in bot mode. so i can live with it.fenrir72 wrote:Hollow guns have been a Hasbro staple since Hardhead and Powermaster Optimus Prime. Aside from the cost difference, the tank threads on Revolver are non functional............no wheels under them......wtf?
like counterpunch, ill probably end up with both (just not hasbros).
GuyIncognito wrote:When you factor in price, it's no contest; Generations wins. The FansProject one isn't superior enough to justify the HUGE price difference. $90 vs $20.
but see, we're trying to factor in everything, not just price. and i doubt theres many people out there buying those other two green revolvers (whatever the names are) to give him a roof and other add-ons...alternator77 wrote:well its actually more like $300 plus now since you need the other two figures to complete the closed roof look and weapons. but your point still stands $300 vs $20.GuyIncognito wrote:When you factor in price, it's no contest; Generations wins. The FansProject one isn't superior enough to justify the HUGE price difference. $90 vs $20.
shajaki wrote:but see, we're trying to factor in everything, not just price. and i doubt theres many people out there buying those other two green revolvers (whatever the names are) to give him a roof and other add-ons...
Yotsuyasan wrote:shajaki wrote:but see, we're trying to factor in everything, not just price. and i doubt theres many people out there buying those other two green revolvers (whatever the names are) to give him a roof and other add-ons...
Well, factoring in everything... I wouldn't want those two green Revolvers, and I think the Fansproject figure looks a bit incomplete without the added on parts.
Hasbro's, in my opinion (which I recognize not everyone may share) looks complete out of the box.
So then... well, I suppose we do end up coming back to the price.
Option One: $20.00 for a complete Hasbro figure.
Option Two: $90.00 for an incomplete looking Fansproject figure.
Option Three: $300.00 for the above figure completed, plus two superfluous figures I don't have need for.
Option Four: Seems there is a KO version of the extra armor bits in the works. No idea if it will actually make it to market, or how much it will be... but I think $60.00 is a safe, low ball guess at price. So let's estimate this at (with the core figure) $150.00. But there are a lot of unknowns with this... And also, for me personally, even though it looks like they've made a few changes/improvements, it's still a knock off... Although I can almost understand this one, as it sucks being forced to buy two superfluous figures just to get some armor bits...
Anyway, Option One looks pretty darn good to me! (Hence why I bought the Hasbro version! ) I have a great figure, and it saved me $70.00 - $280.00 compared to what I see as lesser alternatives, anyway!
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